RE: Rob Smedley: 'We've got karting costs down by 96'
RE: Rob Smedley: 'We've got karting costs down by 96'
Friday 31st January 2025

Rob Smedley: 'We've got karting costs down by 96%'

Former Ferrari man and FAT Karting League boss on democratising the F1 ladder - and Hamilton in red


 

It must feel strange watching your once arch-rival driving for the team you once called home. For Rob Smedley, former race engineer to Felipe Massa and all-round Formula 1 legend, that came just a week ago when Lewis Hamilton, the chap who snatched a drivers’ world championship away from his man on the last corner of the last lap at the 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix, emerged from Enzo Ferrari’s former home decked in red and raring to go for his first outing in a Ferrari F1 car.

If you followed the 2008 season as religiously as I did, soaking up all the on-track action and the pre-and-post-race gossip (this was the days before podcasts and Drive to Survive, remember), then you’ll know just how tense things became between the McLaren and Ferrari garages. Not quite to the ferocity of the Mercedes versus Red Bull conflict in 2021, but on-track scuffles in Turkey and Germany, as well as a tangle at the Japanese Grand Prix, sent tensions soaring. And that season’s drama was recently reignited, with Massa filing a lawsuit against F1’s governing body, the FIA, over that year’s Singapore GP fixing, the events of which ultimately led to him missing out on that year’s title.

Smedley, however, is well aware of how quickly the world of Formula 1 moves, even if the thought of seeing an old adversary at his former team looks a little strange at first. “Lewis stood outside the house at Fiaorano, a house where I spent many wet afternoons waiting for the track to dry up, [he’s] clearly now a Ferrari man. That looks a bit strange, that looks a bit different. But the reality is, by the time we've got to this week, Lewis is a Ferrari guy, and he's probably always been a Ferrari guy in most people's mind.” He adds: “I think it's great that he's gone to Ferrari. I think it shakes things up. I think he needed it. You know, looking from the outside and a little bit on the inside, I think that he needed it definitely.”

Besides, Smedley has bigger things to worry about these days, not least because he left the F1 circus behind a couple of years ago. Having followed Massa from Ferrari to Williams in 2014, he left the Grove-based team four years later and worked as a consultant to the Formula 1 Group. “I wanted some time to myself when, when I finished at the end of 18, going into 19, with Williams”, he says. “I did do a little bit with Formula 1 at the time, mainly because they asked me to. But I made it clear that during that period I wanted a) time to myself, and b) time to build [something] up.”

What he wasn’t sure of, however, was what it was he wanted to start building. “I started to think: ‘I was a kid from a fairly humble background [who] ends up in Formula 1, ends up in Ferrari, ends up winning all these medals and world championships and all of that stuff. How do you lower the odds for kids like me to get into Formula 1?’ And it quickly becomes a realisation that the system is actually democratised. If you're clever enough, and if you apply yourself enough, as an engineer or technician or as a marketeer or whatever it is, you'll get to Formula 1, right?”, all while conceding that it requires a good helping of luck, too. “What wasn't fully democratised and isn't fully democratised is the route to the driver’s seats in Formula 1. So that was something that piqued my interest.”

Now, motorsport has always been - and continues to be - astronomically expensive. Heck, if it weren’t for bored aristocrats mucking about in their motor cars on a Sunday afternoon, there may never have been a motorsport to get excited about. But that was a century ago, and the cost of entry now is arguably the highest it’s ever been, especially for youngsters looking to get a foot on the F1 ladder. “If you want to go out to Europe [and] you want to take part in the FIA European Championships, then an average spend out there will be like £250k”, he says. And it’s not hard to see why. Factor in a three-day race weekend, plus a few days of testing, five sets of tyres a day(!), chassis changes and “a significant amount of engines”, and it’s clear to see how costs can quickly snowball, particularly if you want to stay at the sharp end. 

True, there are plenty of families that can afford to do so, but it’s prohibitive for the majority of the world’s population, meaning the sport’s missing out on countless gifted drivers who simply don’t have the required means. That drove Smedley to create the FAT Karting League, in association with Ferdi Porsche’s new lifestyle brand FAT International (remember the name from the old Le Mans racers?), with the aim of drastically lowering the cost of entry for junior racing and bringing motorsport to parts of the world where there’s little-to-no infrastructure for finding young talent. 

How much cheaper are we talking? Well, Smedley originally estimated that he could bring costs down by 50 to 60 per cent, but, he says, “we’ve ended up getting it down to 96 per cent and we haven’t stopped.” An impressive achievement, although it's one that’s required a complete rethink of the karting system. Naturally, one of the major hurdles has been the cost of the karts themselves. Currently, there are multiple manufacturers and tyre suppliers that compete in the karting world championship, likely with their own advantages and disadvantages. Meanwhile, everyone who competes in the FAT Karting League does so in the same machinery as their competitors, which has been designed by Smedley and his team, while manufacturing is handled by longstanding kart maker Birel.

Each kart is powered by an electric motor, which varies in power depending on what level you’re at in the league. “It was clear to me that EV technology offered probably the best chance of getting the close parity across the whole fleet,” Smedley says. “When we were first doing the research on this and started to look at internal combustion engines and EV engines and all rest of it, we just couldn't get the parity across the ICE engines. [We] understood how to do it, but it would be a significant investment [to make it work]. So that's why we ended up with the EV karts.” Parity is particularly important, not only because it’s an arrive-and-drive format, meaning you could end up in a competitor’s kart in your next race, but it also takes the variables out of talent-hunting process. 

That’s arguably the league’s USP over traditional karting, with data playing a key role in how it assesses the F1 champions of the future. “You look at the classic way of selecting a driver. It's kind of looking at their results, going and watching them at the side of a track, and seeing whether or not that kid’s good. Just from eyeing it up”, he says. “I’m all about finding the talent, but I want to find it in a really data-driven and objective way.” To that end, Smedley and his team have developed software that can analyse data points on the kart and around the track, and log them into a database with other drivers across the world.

Those who show signs of speed during the arrive-and-drive testing phase will be selected for the regional and pro championships, with the top scorer eligible for a fully-funded Formula 4 seat. This year marks the expansion into the USA and the league’s first World Final, where the best drivers from both markets will compete on the same stretch of tarmac for an almighty title decider.  Ultimately, the goal is for a truly global structure, where kids all over the world have the opportunity to light up the timing screens and grab the attention of FAT Karting League’s talent-o-tron.

For now, Smedley’s message to boys and girls with dreams of being an F1 driver is simple: “we’re open, come try us.” It all starts with a test day, which lets you crack on with learning the kart and build up speed without the pressure of going up against competitors in a full-blown race. And while the traditional karting scene can be intimidating to newcomers, particularly young girls coming into a paddock full of boys and pushy dads, Smedley’s strived to make FAT Karting League an open, inviting space that’s welcoming to all. “I think everybody always has the same feedback, it’s the community spirit here, the feeling of belonging, the feeling of equity, is really, really strong, and that's great”, he says. “That’s exactly how a movement like this should be.”


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Discussion

Kawasicki

Original Poster:

14,049 posts

256 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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Great idea. Imagine what drivers would be like if motorsport was much cheaper and accessible. It would be a game changer.

CDP

8,017 posts

275 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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Brilliant. The cost of karting becomes prohibitive and prevented my nephew from going any further despite being very very good. We've not tried my 9 year old in a kart yet, wondering if it's too late.

Picanto_superleggera

159 posts

32 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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I saw some of the early stages of this (before FAT were involved) when I took my offspring to the Girls on Track day at the London Formula E a few years back. The karts looked good, and meeting Rob, Suzie Wolff and Dave Richards who were all there to support was brilliant.

Brent Hoffmeister

182 posts

37 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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Finally, a chance to show my worth on a level playing field, I could be in F1 by the time I’m 50.

J4CKO

45,420 posts

221 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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Kawasicki said:
Great idea. Imagine what drivers would be like if motorsport was much cheaper and accessible. It would be a game changer.
Yeah, it is amazing how most racing drivers these days seem to be white lads Called Jack, Max, Tom, Olly or Josh….




Ed Banger

1,651 posts

229 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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J4CKO said:
Yeah, it is amazing how most racing drivers these days seem to be white lads Called Jack, Max, Tom, Olly or Josh….
Yeah names change with the times, would you prefer Stirling, Graham and Jackie still?

essayer

10,312 posts

215 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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From reading past threads on here about just how much it costs to participate in the karting world (just for fun) it’s good to hear that someone is making efforts to reduce the cost.

But don’t forget time pressures too.. how many parents can sacrifice whole weekends to travel the country ? Make A&D more affordable and you will bring so many more children into the sport.

Apples and oranges I know, but grassroots football is £5 a week for a match and a training night, and all you need to buy is boots…

Edited by essayer on Friday 31st January 08:34

J4CKO

45,420 posts

221 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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Ed Banger said:
J4CKO said:
Yeah, it is amazing how most racing drivers these days seem to be white lads Called Jack, Max, Tom, Olly or Josh….
Yeah names change with the times, would you prefer Stirling, Graham and Jackie still?
Missed and confirmed my point in one go !

CKY

2,258 posts

36 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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J4CKO said:
Ed Banger said:
J4CKO said:
Yeah, it is amazing how most racing drivers these days seem to be white lads Called Jack, Max, Tom, Olly or Josh….
Yeah names change with the times, would you prefer Stirling, Graham and Jackie still?
Missed and confirmed my point in one go !
So, posting pointless, sweeping generalisations is 'making a point' now? Christ...

J4CKO

45,420 posts

221 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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CKY said:
J4CKO said:
Ed Banger said:
J4CKO said:
Yeah, it is amazing how most racing drivers these days seem to be white lads Called Jack, Max, Tom, Olly or Josh….
Yeah names change with the times, would you prefer Stirling, Graham and Jackie still?
Missed and confirmed my point in one go !
So, posting pointless, sweeping generalisations is 'making a point' now? Christ...
This article is about reducing the cost of entry level motor racing, the drivers in a lot of motorsport tend to be from where the wealth is held, not many get others get a look in so the demographics of who does get through are skewed to white males from wealthy backgrounds, anything that democratises it a bit nurtures talent from other backgrounds is surely a good thing ?



Crudeoink

1,233 posts

80 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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Interesting idea, particularly the EV performance levels based on the league position. I wonder if the 'arrive and drive' aspect of the league means each driver gets a given kart for the whole weekend. A huge amount of karting is changing your setup over the weekend as the track / conditions change, track width, caster, pressures, side pods, bearings, gearing etc.

CDP

8,017 posts

275 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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J4CKO said:
Kawasicki said:
Great idea. Imagine what drivers would be like if motorsport was much cheaper and accessible. It would be a game changer.
Yeah, it is amazing how most racing drivers these days seem to be white lads Called Jack, Max, Tom, Olly or Josh….
You forgot Stig, Mika and Kimmy

Dingu

4,893 posts

51 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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CKY said:
J4CKO said:
Ed Banger said:
J4CKO said:
Yeah, it is amazing how most racing drivers these days seem to be white lads Called Jack, Max, Tom, Olly or Josh….
Yeah names change with the times, would you prefer Stirling, Graham and Jackie still?
Missed and confirmed my point in one go !
So, posting pointless, sweeping generalisations is 'making a point' now? Christ...
I think the point possibly being attempted is similar to something I have thought before.

It’s almost certain that the current drivers in F1 are not the fastest drivers in the world (talent wise). This applies to all sport and anything else really too. There will be such a small proportion of people who will try a given activity, profession or sport that the chances are the most naturally talented footballer or racing driver has never even tried it. Either through not being interested or lack of opportunity to have that talent nurtured.

You or I might really be a world beating tiddlywinks player or ski jumper. But I’ve never tried those things so have no idea!

So anything like this which aids participation should hopefully lead to even better drivers.

Turning back to F1. It’s possible the best drivers in the world are predominantly from Europe, but it feels unlikely. Not to take anything away from them. You need three things to make it fundamentally: talent, opportunity and then the drive to pursue whatever it is. They certainly have all three and deserve their place fully.

Sway

33,152 posts

215 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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Really like the idea, both in terms of equipment and data driven talent identification.

Why not go one stage further, and create a 'standard package' of sim based racing before they even get into a physical kart?

Imagine a kid being able to practice/race 'for free' with a really very low cost of entry and no need for weekends away/travel - then parents would be far more willing to support 'giving it a go' if the 'authorities highlight that actually their kid might well have something worth pursuing?

J4CKO

45,420 posts

221 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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Sway said:
Really like the idea, both in terms of equipment and data driven talent identification.

Why not go one stage further, and create a 'standard package' of sim based racing before they even get into a physical kart?

Imagine a kid being able to practice/race 'for free' with a really very low cost of entry and no need for weekends away/travel - then parents would be far more willing to support 'giving it a go' if the 'authorities highlight that actually their kid might well have something worth pursuing?
Wonder if Sim racing translates well to actually being quick in a car, my nephew has a half decent racing set up and can blitz my brother and I but aside from a quick shot in a driving experience car he hasn't done any actual driving.

Guess its better than no experience.

With regards to my earlier comments, I stand by them but there is also an element of maybe other groups arent all that interested in motor racing ? Remember working for the Police and they were desperate to get officers from different backgrounds, but in a lot of cases folk just didnt want to do it.

zorba_the_greek

1,115 posts

243 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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Great idea

Sway

33,152 posts

215 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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J4CKO said:
Sway said:
Really like the idea, both in terms of equipment and data driven talent identification.

Why not go one stage further, and create a 'standard package' of sim based racing before they even get into a physical kart?

Imagine a kid being able to practice/race 'for free' with a really very low cost of entry and no need for weekends away/travel - then parents would be far more willing to support 'giving it a go' if the 'authorities highlight that actually their kid might well have something worth pursuing?
Wonder if Sim racing translates well to actually being quick in a car, my nephew has a half decent racing set up and can blitz my brother and I but aside from a quick shot in a driving experience car he hasn't done any actual driving.

Guess its better than no experience.

With regards to my earlier comments, I stand by them but there is also an element of maybe other groups arent all that interested in motor racing ? Remember working for the Police and they were desperate to get officers from different backgrounds, but in a lot of cases folk just didnt want to do it.
Gran Turismo is far from a proper 'sim', and yet the GT Academy has created Le Mans podium winners, etc. I think it's fair to say that when they go from the 'online challenge' to actual car stuff, the car stuff isn't perhaps using the same sort of forward thinking regarding telemetry and data as Smedley is implementing here? Pass, that's a level of detail beyond available info.

Not many kart racers have any 'other' driving experience!

ChocolateFrog

34,335 posts

194 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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J4CKO said:
CKY said:
J4CKO said:
Ed Banger said:
J4CKO said:
Yeah, it is amazing how most racing drivers these days seem to be white lads Called Jack, Max, Tom, Olly or Josh….
Yeah names change with the times, would you prefer Stirling, Graham and Jackie still?
Missed and confirmed my point in one go !
So, posting pointless, sweeping generalisations is 'making a point' now? Christ...
This article is about reducing the cost of entry level motor racing, the drivers in a lot of motorsport tend to be from where the wealth is held, not many get others get a look in so the demographics of who does get through are skewed to white males from wealthy backgrounds, anything that democratises it a bit nurtures talent from other backgrounds is surely a good thing ?
None of the names you initially mentioned are posh names.

There's loads of white boys that are not in any way privileged.

Picanto_superleggera

159 posts

32 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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Sway said:
Gran Turismo is far from a proper 'sim', and yet the GT Academy has created Le Mans podium winners, etc. I think it's fair to say that when they go from the 'online challenge' to actual car stuff, the car stuff isn't perhaps using the same sort of forward thinking regarding telemetry and data as Smedley is implementing here? Pass, that's a level of detail beyond available info.

Not many kart racers have any 'other' driving experience!
I understand that Olly Bearman started on Gran Turismo, a friend's son used to race with him back in the day. Whether it is perfect, probably not, but then how many hotshot F2 drivers don't cut it in F1?

Sway

33,152 posts

215 months

Friday 31st January 2025
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Picanto_superleggera said:
Sway said:
Gran Turismo is far from a proper 'sim', and yet the GT Academy has created Le Mans podium winners, etc. I think it's fair to say that when they go from the 'online challenge' to actual car stuff, the car stuff isn't perhaps using the same sort of forward thinking regarding telemetry and data as Smedley is implementing here? Pass, that's a level of detail beyond available info.

Not many kart racers have any 'other' driving experience!
I understand that Olly Bearman started on Gran Turismo, a friend's son used to race with him back in the day. Whether it is perfect, probably not, but then how many hotshot F2 drivers don't cut it in F1?
Indeed. Max Verstappen is also a noted 'proper' sim racer.

Is getting to F2 a bad outcome for someone who in another scenario wouldn't have a hope of any form of motorsports driving career?