RE: 2025 Audi RS3 Sportback | PH Fleet
RE: 2025 Audi RS3 Sportback | PH Fleet
Saturday 8th March 2025

2025 Audi RS3 Sportback | PH Fleet

The RS3 is already on borrowed time. We couldn't resist the chance for a long goodbye


We already know what we don’t like about the latest Audi RS3 Sportback: the anaesthetised steering, the plug-ugly grille, the absence of a gear lever, some of the buttons, most of the vents and every bit of the flat top steering wheel. And the price, of course. Had the staff of PH bought this particular RS3, the whip round would've required an envelope stuffed with £69,575. Including £895 for the optional Ascari blue. Had we opted to take advantage of Audi’s representative 48-month Personal Contract Plan, and decided after four years that we’d like to hand over the optional final payment, the total amount payable would be £88,007 and 68p. 

Needless to say, at £37,278, that final optional payment is the contractual equivalent of a nuclear deterrent (no sane person would push the button), but still - reading to the bottom of the RS3’s spec sheet, it’s hard to immediately square the thought of £88,007 and 68p - or even £69,575 - with the real-life prospect of what is undeniably still a C segment hatchback. Increase that budget by just 8 per cent and you could have a Porsche Cayman GTS 4.0. Buying a new Mk8.5 Golf R Black Edition would save you £23,790. This does make you think. 

Admittedly, our RS3 is a Carbon Vorsprung model; the entry-level version beneath it starts at £60,135, a figure that actually undercuts the equivalent Mercedes-AMG A45 S by £3,610. And nor are we bellyaching with much gusto: after all, it is heartening in 2025 that both Audi and Mercedes will still sell you a petrol-powered five-door hatchback with 400hp and sub 4 second 0-62mph times at all. That availability has much to do with bottom-line profitability, clearly; nevertheless, in a world with precious few conventional sports cars left, the continued presence of either car in local showrooms almost feels like a minor miracle. 

Thus the reason for welcoming the latest RS3 to the PH Fleet is twofold: firstly, to see if it lives up to that giant price tag over time, or wilts under the weight of it. And secondly, regardless of that outcome, to.savour it for all the ways we already know it’s brilliant. Because make no mistake, once this lifecycle is done and dusted, we'll almost certainly never see its like again - or at least not with the 2.5-litre inline-five that made the car singularly desirable in the first place. It’s been raising the hairs on the back of PH necks since 2011; after nearly 15 years, no matter what the case for owning a brand-new RS3 in 2025, its engine has well-earned a long, gushing goodbye. 

The nearness of its demise is reflected in Audi’s reluctance to do much with it. The turbocharged 2,480cc motor is much as we found it in the previous generation: peak power arrives at 5,600rpm and is sustained until 7,000rpm. There’s a lull in the action a long way before that - unaided by an accelerator pedal that wants pushing down a long way down in its default setting before finally accepting that you’re after the good stuff - but by 2,250rpm, 369lb ft of torque comes on terrifically strong and doesn’t let up till the horsepower is ready to seamlessly receive the baton. Neither 174mph (accessed by the Carbon Vorsprung spec) nor 62mph in 3.8 seconds seems remotely far-fetched. 

For now though, just a few weeks into ‘ownership’, it is the more tangible parts of the Vorsprung premium that have immediately impressed. Specifically the upgraded 19-inch ’10-cross-spoke’ (as Audi describes them) alloys, a dazzling, arch-filling reminder of just how naff the matt black standard wheels must look in comparison - and its adaptive dampers, cruelly denied to the base model, which deliver roughly the sort of bump absorption you’d expect from riding a memory foam mattress down a flight of stairs. 

Of course, this typifies the sort of ‘ease of use’ that Audi has intentionally sought in this generation of RS3 - almost certainly a result of customer feedback accrued in previous years - and that aspect of the facelifted car is foregrounded every time you turn it on. And, indeed, for the full length of a recent trek to the Peak District in support of the Cupra Leon versus Audi S5 test we ran last month. It says much already about the car that I can’t recall a single covetous glance in the direction of either fast wagon, even with a four-hour return journey in the offing. Obviously I didn’t have a wardrobe to shift, but still - the time when you’d chew through your own arm to switch places with an Avant driver is long gone. 

Consequently, we do not need three months to know that the RS3 is very easy to rub along with. Instead, it’s all about where the car ranks among other similarly powerful big-ticket options in 2025, and, more broadly, where it now sits in automotive history. Because while its legacy as the original mega-powerful, five-door hatch is virtually guaranteed by default, the RS3 bookmarks an era already being supplanted by five-door, mega-power EVs that threaten to make its level of performance look modest. Has it still got sufficient special sauce in its twilight years to make them all seem like oversized golf carts? Let's find out. 


Car: 2025 Audi RS3 Sportback Carbon Vorsprung
Price as tested: £69,575 (comprising Ascari blue, metallic £895)
Run by: Nic and Matt
On fleet since: Feb 2025
Mileage: 1,760

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Honeywell

Original Poster:

1,645 posts

124 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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A Hyundai Ionic 5N monsters an RS3 on performance and costs a fraction to run.

Plus your home won't be invaded by professional car thieves.

chirurgus

488 posts

242 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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Honeywell said:
A Hyundai Ionic 5N monsters an RS3 on performance and costs a fraction to run.

Plus your home won't be invaded by professional car thieves.
Which is somewhat telling of the relative desirability of each

sidesauce

2,967 posts

244 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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chirurgus said:
Honeywell said:
A Hyundai Ionic 5N monsters an RS3 on performance and costs a fraction to run.

Plus your home won't be invaded by professional car thieves.
Which is somewhat telling of the relative desirability of each
Also, they're not in the same category dimensionally:-






Why they'd even be compared is silly to me.

Jon_S_Rally

4,400 posts

114 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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Honeywell said:
A Hyundai Ionic 5N monsters an RS3 on performance and costs a fraction to run.

Plus your home won't be invaded by professional car thieves.
And yet, despite that, the Audi is still the one that appeals the most.

The Hyundai is a great EV, and they should be applauded for their efforts to make the genre more interesting but, for many people, the five-pot engine is still very desirable.

Choice is a good thing.

fantheman80

2,482 posts

75 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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Honeywell said:
A Hyundai Ionic 5N monsters an RS3 on performance and costs a fraction to run.

Plus your home won't be invaded by professional car thieves.
As good as the 5N reportedly is, I’d take the one with one of the best sounding and performing ICE engines ever thanks and 3.3 to 60 appears to pretty competitive to the PlayStation on wheels, if that’s your thing

big_rob_sydney

3,671 posts

220 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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chirurgus said:
Honeywell said:
A Hyundai Ionic 5N monsters an RS3 on performance and costs a fraction to run.

Plus your home won't be invaded by professional car thieves.
Which is somewhat telling of the relative desirability of each
You can try the typical British double-speak as much as you like. I dont want armed robbers in my house, regardless of whatever stupid argument is put forward.

And in any case, I disagree. I have zero interest in anything German or British any more. The makers from there are staring down the barrel of obsolescence, in the face of rising Chinese EV cars that are more powerful, quicker, cheaper to run, and by virtue of a vastly simplified architecture, have better reliability.

If you really MUST have something weaker, slower, more expensive to run, and more unreliable, hey, knock yourself out.

fantheman80

2,482 posts

75 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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big_rob_sydney said:
chirurgus said:
Honeywell said:
A Hyundai Ionic 5N monsters an RS3 on performance and costs a fraction to run.

Plus your home won't be invaded by professional car thieves.
Which is somewhat telling of the relative desirability of each
You can try the typical British double-speak as much as you like. I dont want armed robbers in my house, regardless of whatever stupid argument is put forward.

And in any case, I disagree. I have zero interest in anything German or British any more. The makers from there are staring down the barrel of obsolescence, in the face of rising Chinese EV cars that are more powerful, quicker, cheaper to run, and by virtue of a vastly simplified architecture, have better reliability.

If you really MUST have something weaker, slower, more expensive to run, and more unreliable, hey, knock yourself out.
And that’s the issue I have with some EV drivers, really don’t compute that it’s not all about the performance numbers or running costs, it’s how a car as a whole package makes you feel. If you genuinely think that a Chinese Ev will give you the same look back when parked up and the feeling of specialness vs an RS product, please crack on and sleep easy

GreatScott2016

2,406 posts

114 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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....."specifically the upgraded 19-inch ’10-cross-spoke’ (as Audi describes them) alloys, a dazzling, arch-filling reminder of just how naff the matt black standard wheels must look in comparison...." . Totally disagree, new ones are OK, but I think the design and finish on the matt black ones look great, and suit the car better.

NGK210

4,793 posts

171 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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Holy crap, the configurator (non-)option packs are infuriating. I’d want:
  • Black paint (hides the vile grille)
  • The Y-spoke alloys in matt silver
  • Red calipers
  • Adaptive suspension
  • Adaptive headlights
  • Adaptive cruise
  • Lecky memory seats
  • Lecky hatch
  • Lecky folding mirrors
  • Rev’ camera + front parking sensors
  • A seat option that’s not quilted diamond tat
  • A decent hi-fi upgrade – where's the B&O?

Not an unreasonable combo on a car costing over £60k? (And all of which was possible on an 8V face lift.)

Not today. If you want the above, you’re obliged to also have the chintzy carbon / black pack exterior trim, the bling wheels and an effing sunroof. All of which I loathe.

FU Audi irked

biggbn

31,409 posts

246 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Honeywell said:
A Hyundai Ionic 5N monsters an RS3 on performance and costs a fraction to run.

Plus your home won't be invaded by professional car thieves.
And yet, despite that, the Audi is still the one that appeals the most.

The Hyundai is a great EV, and they should be applauded for their efforts to make the genre more interesting but, for many people, the five-pot engine is still very desirable.

Choice is a good thing.
Nae dog in the fight, each to their own, but a five pot is my favourite engine and THAT five pot must be sublime

big_rob_sydney

3,671 posts

220 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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fantheman80 said:
big_rob_sydney said:
chirurgus said:
Honeywell said:
A Hyundai Ionic 5N monsters an RS3 on performance and costs a fraction to run.

Plus your home won't be invaded by professional car thieves.
Which is somewhat telling of the relative desirability of each
You can try the typical British double-speak as much as you like. I dont want armed robbers in my house, regardless of whatever stupid argument is put forward.

And in any case, I disagree. I have zero interest in anything German or British any more. The makers from there are staring down the barrel of obsolescence, in the face of rising Chinese EV cars that are more powerful, quicker, cheaper to run, and by virtue of a vastly simplified architecture, have better reliability.

If you really MUST have something weaker, slower, more expensive to run, and more unreliable, hey, knock yourself out.
And that’s the issue I have with some EV drivers, really don’t compute that it’s not all about the performance numbers or running costs, it’s how a car as a whole package makes you feel. If you genuinely think that a Chinese Ev will give you the same look back when parked up and the feeling of specialness vs an RS product, please crack on and sleep easy
You think "look back" is more important? How shallow are you?

CharverDeeksWorth

802 posts

165 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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How have has someone ended up comparing an ionic to the car in the article?

What a pointless waste of letters.

captain_cal

29 posts

110 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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big_rob_sydney said:
You think "look back" is more important? How shallow are you?
Er, have you remembered what forum we're on?

BrownEaredDog

1,305 posts

127 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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sidesauce said:
chirurgus said:
Honeywell said:
A Hyundai Ionic 5N monsters an RS3 on performance and costs a fraction to run.

Plus your home won't be invaded by professional car thieves.
Which is somewhat telling of the relative desirability of each
Also, they're not in the same category dimensionally:-






Why they'd even be compared is silly to me.
A comparison on carsized.com really puts the size difference into perspective yikes I love the Ioniq 5, but I'm always taken aback by the sheer size when one arrives in the paint shop.

I suppose they're vaguely comparable on performance and interior space? There's nothing like a 5-cylinder engine though, given the choice of the two I'd choose the RS3 for that alone cloud9


The Pistonsdead

6,650 posts

233 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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Good write up on an iconic Audi that is still a brilliant all round car. Yes of course there are comparable cars around. An E.V versus a classic 5 pot, I guess you take your choice. End of the day it's good we have just that.

Kawasicki

14,315 posts

261 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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Pretty sure the Ioniq is probably much more spacious… as the post above shows it’s externally much bigger, more comparable to a SUV like the Q5.

It’s a completely different class of car.

Quattr04.

1,131 posts

17 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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These cars keeping getting more and more powerful and expensive and I just think what’s the point?

A great engine but you can’t use most of the power most of the time, and now drivers roads such as the black mountains and evo triangle have been ruined by average speed cameras

I just don’t see the point anymore, I think joy is found in a decent steering car with 250bhp at most, where you can enjoy lower speeds, something like a fiesta ST.

Then there’s the price, I know everything is expensive now but you spend £80k and you’ve still just got the interior of an Audi a3 that costs less than half that, even monthly.

And after all that, it gets stolen and ends up wrapped around a tree in Bradford

popeyewhite

23,008 posts

146 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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Honeywell said:
A Hyundai Ionic 5N monsters an RS3 on performance and costs a fraction to run.
Rubbish. The Hyundai is a mere 0.3 secs quicker to 60, and has only 30bhp/tonne more. I imagine because it weighs so much more than the Audi you'll need brakes and tyres sooner, probably suspension as well.

Honeywell said:
Plus your home won't be invaded by professional car thieves.
Hmm, plenty of performance Hyundais get stolen around here (Manchester).

I actually quite like Hyundais, and might even consider an electric one in a few years, but back to back with an RS3 neither 'monsters' the other.

Angelo1985

756 posts

52 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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I don’t understand why Audi (but to be fair, bmw and Mercedes did the same) has moved the A3 so much upmarket that now its price seem absolutely crazy, when a little stretch on the budget will buy you a Cayman (I know they’re not in the same class, but still…badge and strong residuals, and the A3 has the common underpinning of the golf so it should be more economical). Looks like they don’t want you to buy it, only to keep it for a few years on a pcp then leave it and re-finance for whatever newer model they’ll come up with.

Tindersticks

2,698 posts

26 months

Sunday 9th March 2025
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big_rob_sydney said:
You think "look back" is more important? How shallow are you?
You think it isn’t?