RE: New Audi A6 saloon is 'business class' special
RE: New Audi A6 saloon is 'business class' special
Monday 14th April

New Audi A6 saloon is 'business class' special

You've seen the wagon - now Audi follows it up with the 'classic' work car park filler


Two things strike you about the new A6 saloon. One, that Audi was right to show the wagon first; it is the much more interesting model to look at and almost certainly the one that a (non-business user) customer would choose to buy. Two, that its decision to rescind its naming strategy (that would have made this the A7) was also sensible. The car looks like an A6 through and through. Pity the poor showroom staff who would’ve been tasked with patiently explaining to every repeat buyer that this was actually the A7 and if they wanted a new A6 it must be battery-powered. The thought of many, if not most, customers turning on their heel and vacating the premises was, almost certainly, one of the root causes for the U-turn. 

At any rate, the outcome has left the new version looking like a very easy bit of kit to understand. Even more so in the case of the saloon because, boot aside, it mirrors the estate in virtually every meaningful way. Certainly Audi’s bullet-pointed boasts are very familiar: first-rate drag coefficient (0.23 here); a claim staked for cutting-edge technology and great refinement; and a reminder that while the A6 isn’t an EV, it does have some (very) modest battery range courtesy of its mild-hybrid status. Most prominent of all is the idea of the car as a ‘classic business sedan’. Attempting to redesign the wheel has not done manufacturers many favours recently; better to kick it old school. 

This is very much what you get. We’ll spare you an exhaustive description of the ‘sophisticated airflow concept’ that Audi has applied here; suffice it to say, it slips through the air more easily than any A6 before it - but looks just like an A6 while doing so. For those who like ticking option lists (i.e. business users), there is much to agonise over, including adaptive air suspension and all-wheel steering, and the alloy sizes go all the way from 18s to a forged 21-inch wheel. And if improbable inches are your thing, you’ll love the new interior which combines not only the 11.9- and 14.5-inch displays you’d expect, but also the prospect of an additional 10.9-inch touchscreen for your passenger. 

Of course, much like the estate, the agony of choice ceases when you arrive at the engine bay. Initially, there will be a choice of two: a 2.0-litre diesel or a 2.0-litre petrol (there is also the now familiar 3.0-litre V6 with 367hp, though it’s likely to remain conspicuous for its absence in the UK for now). In terms of power from the four-cylinder units, Audi hasn’t even bothered distinguishing between the two; both output 204hp, though the oil burner enjoys a predictable advantage in peak torque. Additionally, you get up to 24hp from the generator, which means very slow speeds ought to occur silently courtesy of the 1.7kWh battery. Interestingly, the TFSI is front-drive only, where the diesel offers a choice of drivetrain - making the TDI quattro (for now), at 6.9 seconds to 62mph, the fastest A6 you can buy. Told you it was old school.


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Amanitin

Original Poster:

502 posts

157 months

Tuesday 15th April
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how much bigger is this car than an A8 from 10 years ago?

b0rk

2,406 posts

166 months

Tuesday 15th April
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It’s no bigger than the current A6 the overall dims are virtually identical.

FamousPheasant

762 posts

136 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Exterior looks smart, but dearie me that interior looks like something from a Hyundai. Which is a shame as Audi have had some great interiors in their recent past.

Maybe it will be better in person.

el romeral

1,854 posts

157 months

Tuesday 15th April
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I don’t believe it - silver wheels, clear glass and no stuck on i pad. Things are looking up. The front grille and especially the badge, look a a bit odd though.

Alorotom

12,637 posts

207 months

Tuesday 15th April
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I really like that inside and out.

That could be my next car all things being equal - looks perfect for a comfortable mway mile muncher!

GeniusOfLove

4,461 posts

32 months

Tuesday 15th April
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I am absolutely amazed they are still selling these at all but particularly in the UK, the A6 was always a total "also ran" against the 5 series and E class and it's now fighting to hold onto a small piece of a much smaller and shrinking pie. I can't remember the last time I saw a vaguely new A6 on the roads.

Mind you, nothing says "premium" like a giant A4 with a rattling 4 pot sooter hehe

Cristio Nasser

423 posts

13 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Amanitin said:
how much bigger is this car than an A8 from 10 years ago?
According to wiki:
2015 A8 is 5131 / 5267 mm (LWB).
2025 A6 4999 mm.
2015 A6 4933 mm.

So it hasn’t grown appreciably, and is still a good bit smaller than the A8, going right back to the original A8 from 1996.

bigyoungdave

304 posts

47 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Looks good, but a car that size will feel pretty sluggish with just over 200 bhp (especially the petrol). Needs the V6 to be of interest, or at least some additional power to be boosted to the four bangers

Cristio Nasser

423 posts

13 months

Tuesday 15th April
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GeniusOfLove said:
I am absolutely amazed they are still selling these at all but particularly in the UK, the A6 was always a total "also ran" against the 5 series and E class and it's now fighting to hold onto a small piece of a much smaller and shrinking pie. I can't remember the last time I saw a vaguely new A6 on the roads.

Mind you, nothing says "premium" like a giant A4 with a rattling 4 pot sooter hehe
I’m not so sure. I’ve always preferred Audi’s over the unimaginative, no more premium (especially these days!), BMW/Merc equivalents. The thinking man’s choice.

Buster73

5,460 posts

173 months

Tuesday 15th April
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GeniusOfLove said:
I am absolutely amazed they are still selling these at all but particularly in the UK, the A6 was always a total "also ran" against the 5 series and E class and it's now fighting to hold onto a small piece of a much smaller and shrinking pie. I can't remember the last time I saw a vaguely new A6 on the roads.

Mind you, nothing says "premium" like a giant A4 with a rattling 4 pot sooter hehe
Funnily enough , I’ve ran all three makes in diesel versions as company cars over the years.

All three were excellent cars , over 400,000 miles driven in total , my favourite by far was my BMW 520d auto

Motormouth88

682 posts

80 months

Tuesday 15th April
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The front works…the back, ummmmm, yeah, looks like a mashup of 3 different models…and Audi please stop with all the chromed plastic it looks so naff. If you want to use chrome, use metal.

GeniusOfLove

4,461 posts

32 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Buster73 said:
Funnily enough , I’ve ran all three makes in diesel versions as company cars over the years.

All three were excellent cars , over 400,000 miles driven in total , my favourite by far was my BMW 520d auto
I used to get to drive all three of them regularly from work. I could never, ever understand why anyone with any interest in driving bought the Audi. The interior looked and felt nice, the seats weren't very comfortable, they could never get economy to match the nasty 4 pot diesel BMWs, but above all they all just felt so dynamically inert on anything but a dual carriageway.

To drive the BMWs were always the best, and the efficient dynamics 3 series was remarkably economical too.

plfrench

4,015 posts

288 months

Tuesday 15th April
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I’m amazed they’re bothering putting this on sale in the UK! Who on earth will buy one confused BIK for PHEV, let alone petrol or diesel MHEV would rule this out for company car drivers or salary sacrifice.

For private buyers, a pretty dull choice of engine options, so I just can’t understand who’d want one! Weird!

NelsonM3

1,777 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Cristio Nasser said:
GeniusOfLove said:
I am absolutely amazed they are still selling these at all but particularly in the UK, the A6 was always a total "also ran" against the 5 series and E class and it's now fighting to hold onto a small piece of a much smaller and shrinking pie. I can't remember the last time I saw a vaguely new A6 on the roads.

Mind you, nothing says "premium" like a giant A4 with a rattling 4 pot sooter hehe
I’m not so sure. I’ve always preferred Audi’s over the unimaginative, no more premium (especially these days!), BMW/Merc equivalents. The thinking man’s choice.
At least with a BMW or Mercedes you can generally see design cues from the previous models. Audi seems to have ditched this over the last 10 years.

As above, I can't remember the last time I saw an A6 on the roads and even the A4 is a rare sight.

Quattr04.

809 posts

11 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Meh

Car manufacturers have gone down the route of all the models looking so similar you might as well just rename them as sizes

S- a3 saloon
M- A5 saloon / hatch
L - A6
XL - A8


The interiors of this and the other new Audis are exactly the same, it doesn’t even look like this has any step up in quality over the A5.

The last A6 was a great looking car. Shame

Ham_and_Jam

3,272 posts

117 months

Tuesday 15th April
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GeniusOfLove said:
I am absolutely amazed they are still selling these at all but particularly in the UK, the A6 was always a total "also ran" against the 5 series and E class and it's now fighting to hold onto a small piece of a much smaller and shrinking pie. I can't remember the last time I saw a vaguely new A6 on the roads.

Mind you, nothing says "premium" like a giant A4 with a rattling 4 pot sooter hehe
Well I really have liked pottering about in my A6. Had it for the last 4 years from new and it hasn’t put a foot wrong. A very easy to live with car.

Swapping it for a new E Class tomorrow, so will be interesting to compare.

Ham_and_Jam

3,272 posts

117 months

Tuesday 15th April
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bigyoungdave said:
Looks good, but a car that size will feel pretty sluggish with just over 200 bhp (especially the petrol). Needs the V6 to be of interest, or at least some additional power to be boosted to the four bangers
I’ve had the same engine in the C8 A6 for the last 4 years and I can honestly say it doesn’t feel sluggish at all.

I’ve had a few quick cars Golf R, S4, RS4, so it’ll never compare it outright speed, but it doesn’t feel sluggish.

The Pistonsdead

5,998 posts

227 months

Tuesday 15th April
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bigyoungdave said:
Looks good, but a car that size will feel pretty sluggish with just over 200 bhp (especially the petrol). Needs the V6 to be of interest, or at least some additional power to be boosted to the four bangers
It's a big beast to push with "only" that much power.
Not for some guys on here who love low 0-60/100+mph cars wink

Fox-

13,483 posts

266 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Why is this only available in the UK with an underpowered 2 litre engine when the rest of Europe and the world gets a 3 litre option?

plfrench

4,015 posts

288 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Fox- said:
Why is this only available in the UK with an underpowered 2 litre engine when the rest of Europe and the world gets a 3 litre option?
I'll give you a clue... it starts with ZEV and ends with Mandate, especially so with the latest consultation results where they're needing to achieve a non-ZEV fleet average in addition to the mandate % ZEV targets for 2030-34... biggrin I'm just surprised they've bothering at all!