Lanterns

[C5_Steve]

Can't see a thread for this, they seem to have delivered on the original brief judging by the trailer.

[CSNY]

Thanks, this trailer looks intriguing and based on it, the show looks to be well made with decent production values.

My first thought however, was “what are two Lanterns, intergalactic policemen extraordinaire, doing investigating a small town murder?” I’m sure we’ll find out, and on pondering this further, the initial trailer and the apparent journey of Hal Jordan and John Stewart in the new show brought to mind a trip that Jordan and Oliver Queen made in DC’s Green Lantern/Green Arrow comic, numbers 85/86, in 1971.

That storyline was considered pretty out there then, certainly for comics, and is a classic of how two cultures within America (the Right, and the counter culture) existed at the same time within the same space, with the attendant contradictions and clashes.

The trailer certainly has that feel visually and stylistically, and given the current culture wars of the present day, could be a modern day revamp.

Or of course, and in all probability given DC’s track record, it won’t be, and will be about aliens and st like that.

Either way, I’m in. Shame it's not out until August.

[C5_Steve]

CSNY said:

Thanks, this trailer looks intriguing and based on it, the show looks to be well made with decent production values.

My first thought however, was what are two Lanterns, intergalactic policemen extraordinaire, doing investigating a small town murder? I m sure we ll find out, and on pondering this further, the initial trailer and the apparent journey of Hal Jordan and John Stewart in the new show brought to mind a trip that Jordan and Oliver Queen made in DC s Green Lantern/Green Arrow comic, numbers 85/86, in 1971.

That storyline was considered pretty out there then, certainly for comics, and is a classic of how two cultures within America (the Right, and the counter culture) existed at the same time within the same space, with the attendant contradictions and clashes.

The trailer certainly has that feel visually and stylistically, and given the current culture wars of the present day, could be a modern day revamp.

Or of course, and in all probability given DC s track record, it won t be, and will be about aliens and st like that.

Either way, I m in. Shame it's not out until August.

Oh I missed the date! That's a long way off. I believe they're taking stuff from across the entire run, so your comparison sounds spot on. The suit for example was a physical suit towards the beginning of the comic run I believe before being something that manifests itself.

[quigonjay]

Thought the first episode was very good

[SlimJim16v]

It was good but; another superhero show without any superheroing, and time jumps, and
kill the hero in the first episode.

As a TV show 7/10
As the Green Lantern 5/10

[C5_Steve]

SlimJim16v said:

It was good but; another superhero show without any superheroing, and time jumps, and
kill the hero in the first episode.

As a TV show 7/10
As the Green Lantern 5/10

I thought the lack of super heroing was refreshing tbh. They properly built up the two leads and their relationship so by the end you actually cared about them. I'm sure there's much more to come. I watched an interview with Lindelof where he spoke about treating the ring like a weapon. Just because a cop has it doesn't mean it's what they use straight away.

I liked the tone overall, decent humour and the non-linear nature means you avoid the issues you sometimes have in shows like House of the dragon where you know where everyone ends up.

[CSNY]

I liked this a lot, although the characterisation of Hal Jordan appears at odds with my memories of the 70's and 80's version - he was a lot more straight laced and upright(ish), just like John Stewart is in this version. Small town murder mystery and aliens stretched over several decades - what's not to like?

The casting is good, as is the (fleetingly small) CGI, sprinkled throughout the episode. And on that, the scene where Jordan takes off for Nebraska after receiving a message from his future self is the most convincing example of a human in flight that I've seen on big or small screen.....

[skeeterm5]

I watched the first episode last night, when I say watched I mean endured. I made it 40 minutes before I turned it off. For me, it was absolutely terrible.

[dom9]

Loved it... but was on the wine!

[Opapayer]

I enjoyed it. I’ve no idea of the Green Lantern back story, nor do I care. Just want to watch something a bit different and this looks fairly gritty, with some humour mixed in there.

[Robster]

Episode 2 very good, can't wait to see where this goes !

[quigonjay]

So far it does seem like one of the better offerings from DC

[C5_Steve]

Robster said:

Episode 2 very good, can't wait to see where this goes !

Indeed, they're managing to cover quite a bit of lore whilst still making the relationship between Hal and John the driving force. I'm as invested in the mystery as I am the Lanterns stuff.

[chatsworth877]

C5_Steve said:

Indeed, they're managing to cover quite a bit of lore whilst still making the relationship between Hal and John the driving force. I'm as invested in the mystery as I am the Lanterns stuff.

Is it ‘woke’? Not really interested in more agenda pushing.

[Robster]

C5_Steve said:

Robster said:

Episode 2 very good, can't wait to see where this goes !

Indeed, they're managing to cover quite a bit of lore whilst still making the relationship between Hal and John the driving force. I'm as invested in the mystery as I am the Lanterns stuff.

Your going to love episode 3 !

[normalbloke]

chatsworth877 said:

C5_Steve said:

Indeed, they're managing to cover quite a bit of lore whilst still making the relationship between Hal and John the driving force. I'm as invested in the mystery as I am the Lanterns stuff.

Is it woke ? Not really interested in more agenda pushing.

You’ll have to explain a little better, we’re as thick as mince over here..

[Opapayer]

chatsworth877 said:

Is it woke ? Not really interested in more agenda pushing.

Yes they’re all gay and they’re going to jump out of their TV and bum you. Don’t watch it.

[CSNY]

Opapayer said:

chatsworth877 said:

Is it woke ? Not really interested in more agenda pushing.

Yes they re all gay and they re going to jump out of their TV and bum you. Don t watch it.

LOL - "don't watch it". That's not very tolerant is it? It does amuse me how, whenever something is called woke, the response is either (a) deliberate misunderstanding or (b) sudden amnesia about the English language. Episode 2 (and the show overall) has aliens infiltrating the planet as a none-too-subtle stand-in for illegal immigration, complete with detectors, ICE vibes, and the good ol’ racist redneck boys running a ranch militia.

Then Stewart and the rancher’s wife get a lengthy diner scene that straight-up explores race, privilege, and the dynamic between black John Stewart and white Hal Jordan (who’s framed as the guy sending the rookie on errands — “How’s your white man?”).

And given that Damon Lindelof is one of the co-creators (the same guy who ran 2019’s Watchmen, peak “as woke as you want”), then hey ho, I'm not surprised.

But no, it’s not woke. Not at all, sir. What is woke, anyway? What do you mean by it? (Next you’ll tell me the green constructs are just a metaphor for renewable energy and Hal’s empty mansion is actually a commentary on housing inequality.)

I'll still watch, but fast forward the woke bits (like the diner scene). Hopefully over the forthcoming episodes I'll have something to enjoy. Given how it's going, I'll probably give up through boredom first....

[Opapayer]

CSNY said:

LOL - "don't watch it". That's not very tolerant is it? It does amuse me how, whenever something is called woke, the response is either (a) deliberate misunderstanding or (b) sudden amnesia about the English language. Episode 2 (and the show overall) has aliens infiltrating the planet as a none-too-subtle stand-in for illegal immigration, complete with detectors, ICE vibes, and the good ol racist redneck boys running a ranch militia.

Then Stewart and the rancher s wife get a lengthy diner scene that straight-up explores race, privilege, and the dynamic between black John Stewart and white Hal Jordan (who s framed as the guy sending the rookie on errands How s your white man? ).

And given that Damon Lindelof is one of the co-creators (the same guy who ran 2019 s Watchmen, peak as woke as you want ), then hey ho, I'm not surprised.

But no, it s not woke. Not at all, sir. What is woke, anyway? What do you mean by it? (Next you ll tell me the green constructs are just a metaphor for renewable energy and Hal s empty mansion is actually a commentary on housing inequality.)

I'll still watch, but fast forward the woke bits (like the diner scene). Hopefully over the forthcoming episodes I'll have something to enjoy. Given how it's going, I'll probably give up through boredom first....

It’s because “woke” is such a pathetic word. It’s used by people who act as if they’re tough, but in reality are so fragile that they can’t cope with anything at all that doesn’t conform to their perceived hardman view of the world. So what if the odd thing in a fictional story is a metaphor for something else. The Green Lantern story is about aliens and a galactic peacekeeping force. It’s fiction, but if you’re going to get upset that aliens are a metaphor for immigration then maybe watching a show about aliens isn’t for you. Ditto, that the bad guy happens to be a wealthy businessman and is a metaphor for money and power corrupting you.

Don’t watch many movies either, even Roadhouse would be a bit too woke for you what with some vagrant type turning up in town and destroying the business of the wealthy town benefactor and all round good guy.

[CSNY]

Opapayer said:

CSNY said:

LOL - "don't watch it". That's not very tolerant is it? It does amuse me how, whenever something is called woke, the response is either (a) deliberate misunderstanding or (b) sudden amnesia about the English language. Episode 2 (and the show overall) has aliens infiltrating the planet as a none-too-subtle stand-in for illegal immigration, complete with detectors, ICE vibes, and the good ol racist redneck boys running a ranch militia.

Then Stewart and the rancher s wife get a lengthy diner scene that straight-up explores race, privilege, and the dynamic between black John Stewart and white Hal Jordan (who s framed as the guy sending the rookie on errands How s your white man? ).

And given that Damon Lindelof is one of the co-creators (the same guy who ran 2019 s Watchmen, peak as woke as you want ), then hey ho, I'm not surprised.

But no, it s not woke. Not at all, sir. What is woke, anyway? What do you mean by it? (Next you ll tell me the green constructs are just a metaphor for renewable energy and Hal s empty mansion is actually a commentary on housing inequality.)

I'll still watch, but fast forward the woke bits (like the diner scene). Hopefully over the forthcoming episodes I'll have something to enjoy. Given how it's going, I'll probably give up through boredom first....

It s because woke is such a pathetic word. It s used by people who act as if they re tough, but in reality are so fragile that they can t cope with anything at all that doesn t conform to their perceived hardman view of the world. So what if the odd thing in a fictional story is a metaphor for something else. The Green Lantern story is about aliens and a galactic peacekeeping force. It s fiction, but if you re going to get upset that aliens are a metaphor for immigration then maybe watching a show about aliens isn t for you. Ditto, that the bad guy happens to be a wealthy businessman and is a metaphor for money and power corrupting you.

Don t watch many movies either, even Roadhouse would be a bit too woke for you what with some vagrant type turning up in town and destroying the business of the wealthy town benefactor and all round good guy.

LOL - You really don't have a clue do you? But anyway, where are my gay men? They've still not jumped out of the TV yet....