RE: Fingerprint Immobiliser

RE: Fingerprint Immobiliser

Thursday 23rd August 2007

Fingerprint Immobiliser

Go all superspy and get fingerprint recognition for your car



Whilst surfing the web we came across this little gadget – the ATRD M10 fingerprint scanner, after keyless entry I guess this development was inevitable.

When you get into your car, pop the key in the ignition and twist until the electrics begin to work. Then place your finger on the scanner and wait for the green LED to tell you that you’re allowed to use the car. If you're not recognised the car won't start.

The system itself uses wireless modules within the car to immobilise it – making the whole system nigh on impossible to find and remove if you don’t know what you’re looking for.


The system can store up to ten prints and there is even a β€˜valet mode’ so you can turn it off when the car is being cleaned/maintained by someone not on your list of ten special people.

There are different modules available for the M10, making it compatible with any alarm or immobiliser system.

Looking at the pictures it doesn't look neat enough to be production ready, but as ideas go, it's not a bad one.....not sure what happens if it goes wrong though.

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Hendry

Original Poster:

1,945 posts

229 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Finrgrpint? I am amazed you found anything on the web with those typing skills. smile

Garlick

40,601 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Hendry said:
Finrgrpint? I am amazed you found anything on the web with those typing skills. smile
rofl GOY, you're sacked!

Err, I subbed it though paperbag



Edited by Garlick on Thursday 23 August 13:19

dnb

3,327 posts

189 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Can it tell the difference between a finger that is attached to a hand and one that isn't?

Tim330

746 posts

159 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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dnb said:
Can it tell the difference between a finger that is attached to a hand and one that isn't?
Probably not one recently detached. Something else to worry about if a car thief breaks into your house at night. He won't just be after your possesions and car keys!

stuartrav

46 posts

159 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Doubt it can tell the difference between an attached or severed finger.

Someone willing to steal a car probably also won't be too concerned about chopping off someones finger. I would much rather give someone my keys than my finger! Somehow I doubt said thief is going to give you the time / allow you to adjust the settings to valet mode.

Dogwatch

5,231 posts

169 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Wireless modules? scratchchin

idea

jwo

909 posts

196 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Think they have pulse sensors (certainly the more advanced ones do), therefore you will be frog marched to car with gun to your head or worse!!

Dave200

3,495 posts

167 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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I think I saw a Mythbusters (great show!) episode where they were confronted with the challenge of "cracking" the most expensive fingerprint-encoded home door-lock on the market. The ease with which they managed to fool an IBM laptop fingerprint detector was pretty scary, yet the door itself took even less effort.
Be aware - Just because someone tells you that something is secure, doesn't necessarily mean that it is...

Road_Terrorist

5,591 posts

189 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Guy in Malaysia couple of years back had one of these and got his finger hacked off for the trouble yikes.

FatPorker

37 posts

179 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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I wouldn't be too tempted - I have keyless entry with fingerprint recognition on my A8 (it just sets the car up - memory seats radio station etc) so even if it doesn't recognise you, you can start the car - which is a good job as it probably only reads correctly first time about 70% of the time - the rest of the time you either give up or have to try repeatedly to get it to recognise you.

voltdropper

7 posts

156 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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I'm rather attached to my fingers and I'd prefer they stay attached to me.
As it seems that the pro car thieves belong to international gangs after high value cars I don't think they are going to be squeamish about hacking off a few fingers or hands. Especially if they've gone to the trouble of breaking in and taking the keys only to find they need a finger print as well. I think they are going to be a bit pissed off when they come back in for the finger.

Moose.

5,332 posts

188 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Dave200 said:
I think I saw a Mythbusters (great show!) episode where they were confronted with the challenge of "cracking" the most expensive fingerprint-encoded home door-lock on the market. The ease with which they managed to fool an IBM laptop fingerprint detector was pretty scary, yet the door itself took even less effort.
Be aware - Just because someone tells you that something is secure, doesn't necessarily mean that it is...
I saw that one too. They simply lifted the finger print of an authorised user from a glass and scanned it into a computer. Then printed it off onto a blank bit of paper which they stuck onto the end of one of their fingers. Then put their finger onto the scanner and voila, the door opened!

scoopz

80 posts

147 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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What about in winter when I'm wearing gloves?

Nice idea, but I think they need to tweak it a little to simultaneously take a tiny sweat sample from the figer and analyse alcohol content at the same time, thus preventing drink driving then I'll be more impressed....if it works the government may make it a requirement in all cars...oooh get a patent on that one quickly! Now how to stop your sober mate from placing his finger on the sensor, well if he's sober and getting in a car with a drunk at the wheel he deserves everything he gets surely?

A1GOY

1,521 posts

149 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Garlick said:
Hendry said:
Finrgrpint? I am amazed you found anything on the web with those typing skills. smile
rofl GOY, you're sacked!

Err, I subbed it though paperbag



Edited by Garlick on Thursday 23 August 13:19
HA!

j-j

45 posts

164 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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You know when the system goes '2001: A Space Odyssey' on you, you are going to regret the day you thought of putting it in your pride and joy!!!

Do you think they allowed memory for 10 prints so that you can store all your prints on the system??? For when you cut your index, got ink on your middle finger, dirt on your ring finger after changing your tyre...



Edited by j-j on Thursday 23 August 16:37

Jasandjules

63,239 posts

176 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Be funny if you did some sanding at home...Sand off the prints, can't drive anywhere !!

wooooody

915 posts

184 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Jasandjules said:
Be funny if you did some sanding at home...Sand off the prints, can't drive anywhere !!
Or lost a finger as I have.... I suppose you have a 1 in ten chance that it's the wrong one though hehe

philbf

9 posts

148 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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They Have these on most up-and-coming laptops as well - rather than typing in your password like you usually do you can swipe your finger over a sensor. Clever, but really, what's the problem with good ol' key and lock?

As if you missed out an 'e' in fingerprint...

MitchT

12,682 posts

156 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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I'm sure there was a case in the news a year or two ago about a bloke having his finger chopped off by theives who wanted his top-of-the-range Mercedes which had fingerprint security. This, and toilet door locks on trains, are two things which are best left mechanical.

Marf

22,907 posts

188 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Dave200 said:
I think I saw a Mythbusters (great show!) episode where they were confronted with the challenge of "cracking" the most expensive fingerprint-encoded home door-lock on the market. The ease with which they managed to fool an IBM laptop fingerprint detector was pretty scary, yet the door itself took even less effort.
Be aware - Just because someone tells you that something is secure, doesn't necessarily mean that it is...
Two words - gummy bear. wink