Strange neighbour problems....Cameras..

Strange neighbour problems....Cameras..

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dunkie

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2,686 posts

201 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Having some issues with my neighbour (well the guy directly behind my house).

My house is a 4 bed detached which is on a canal side, my neighbours house backs onto mine, we have lived her over a year now and its lovely, no trouble and its a very quiet neighbourhood.

But.... Over the last few weeks my neighbour had started to erect camera's about his property and some strange things have been happening. He has put one camera on the top of his shed, its a motorised affair but it basically looks into the gardens and windows of all the neighbouring houses. Over the course of the last couple of days I have noticed each morning that the camera has been sat at a fixed position looking into my two back bedrooms, most concerning is that one of these bedrooms is occupied by my 6 year old daughter. I approached him yesterday for a quiet chat and it didnt really go too well as he started to get aggressive and so I walked away before I showed him what I have learned in my 8 years of muay thai. Not wanting to start a war with him but I am getting more and more pissed off with this camera, one suggestion was to cut the er down or spray pain over the lens but I am not at that stage yet!

Thing is I have a lot of glass (conservatory, big windows, french doors) through the house, so he basically can see everything and its not starting to annoy me that he is invading my privacy.

I am not gonna accuse him of anything dodgy (he was trying to get me to call him a paedo lol!) but I am not happy and am considering involving the police, I havent had a chat with my other neighbours as yet but intend to do so.

Would the police be interested in helping me out? Or am I being very paranoid?

silversun

4,372 posts

226 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Not paranoid at all. I would be annoyed and upset if someone had set up cameras which looked into my house, no matter what their intended purpose.

If the guy isn't prepared to be reasonable, I would write him a letter stating that you are unhappy with the positioning of the cameras and ask him to move them so they can't see into your windows. Send it recorded delivery.

I would then have a chat with the CAB on how to progress if he refuses to move them.

Definitely don't vandalise the cameras as he will then have a claim against you.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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I'd try the planning department 1st about any rules they have for this kind of thing. I don t think you are allowed to set up a camera to look into other peoples property. Look at your own property or the street (with signs) I think is ok.

On the other hand just errect a post with a board on it infront of the camera (Like a for sale board). That way it cant see onto your property.

nelly1

5,630 posts

231 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Intrusion of privacy. Why does he need to be looking at your house?

Get the police involved. Tell them about your daughter.
In the current climate of paedos and the like I would imagine they would be most interested in having a chat with him.

The fact he got defensive straight away would be enough to rouse suspicion!

chorlton

252 posts

229 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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I didn't think you could point your camera so it captured anything other than your own property?

JohnSW20

886 posts

237 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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If this was me and after a quite chat the result was the same I would invest in a good air rifle; you say you live on the canel so you bought it for the rats. I have two young daughters and if the guy at the back of me had a camera watching my garden and the back windows I think I would a gasket.

John

Ecks Ridgehead

4,285 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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anonymous said:
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Yeah, drop the P-bomb.

CY88

2,808 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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dunkie said:
I am not gonna accuse him of anything dodgy (he was trying to get me to call him a paedo lol!) but I am not happy and am considering involving the police, I havent had a chat with my other neighbours as yet but intend to do so.

Would the police be interested in helping me out? Or am I being very paranoid?
Not sure why your being so restrained. If my neighbour trained a camera on my daughters room, I'd have no issues in questioning his proclivities to his face, telling all the other neighbours and making it clear that the police were going to be involved.

Ecks Ridgehead

4,285 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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anonymous said:
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I agree. I just wanted to use the phrase "P-bomb".

Try it! It's strangely satisfying.

bobda

1,442 posts

234 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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anonymous said:
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Yeah, that or say he was speeding. wink

trimbo

1,078 posts

223 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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If your neighbour won't agree that your concerns are reasonable and take action to remove or resite the camera, then I would be very suspicious of his motives.

Legend83

9,981 posts

222 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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CY88 said:
dunkie said:
I am not gonna accuse him of anything dodgy (he was trying to get me to call him a paedo lol!) but I am not happy and am considering involving the police, I havent had a chat with my other neighbours as yet but intend to do so.

Would the police be interested in helping me out? Or am I being very paranoid?
Not sure why your being so restrained. If my neighbour trained a camera on my daughters room, I'd have no issues in questioning his proclivities to his face, telling all the other neighbours and making it clear that the police were going to be involved.
We don't know why he has set-up the cameras yet, so not sure I would mud his name as a paeodophile to the whole village yet! Yes, he got defensive which does raise suspicions but I would not jump the gun. As another poster said, find out your rights from the planning department, write a letter and if no joy, then take it a step further.

It happens oh so often that in a situation like this the 'victim' ends up not getting any help at all because they went to far too quickly. Just tread carefully is all I would say, and I am sure the end result will be better for all.

SpydieNut

5,800 posts

223 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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trimbo said:
If your neighbour won't agree that your concerns are reasonable and take action to remove or resite the camera, then I would be very suspicious of his motives.
+1

police

Deltaf01

1,512 posts

197 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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bobda said:
Yeah, that or say he was speeding. wink
I fear you go too far! smile

somouk

1,425 posts

198 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Is the camera viewable from the canalside. As a temporary measure maybe get someone to take it out with an air rifle while waiting for plod to sort it!

Mart

MentalSarcasm

6,083 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Okay, I think go as far as to tell the police that you think he's a paedophile is going a bit far, look at the guy here on PH who has had his career ruined by students that called him a paedo, in the current climate of fear in this country, those sorts of words can instantly ruin the life and reputation of someone who may be completely innocent.

That said, I too would be pissed off that someone had a camera trained on my parents house. You say his property backs on to yours? I'm assuming this means that all that is dividing your gardens is a wooden fence or brick wall? In that case he has no good excuse for this, if there was a road or something between them then he could probably get away with "someone's been nicking stuff from my shed and I want to catch them this way" but otherwise, no way, not a chance.

Definitly discuss it with the neighbours and do the letter thing someone suggested, including a threat to involve the council and police in it. And see if you can speak to his missus, or get your missus to speak to her, she won't be happy that the household reputation is being destroyed by him and will start nagging him constantly to take them down.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

250 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Ecks Ridgehead said:
anonymous said:
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Yeah, drop the P-bomb.
rofl


Anyhow - as others have said, don't damage his camera - just involve the police. You've tried to be polite, which was (in my opinion) totally the correct thing to have done.

silversun

4,372 posts

226 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Sure I'm going to get flamed for this, but do people seriously think it's a good thing to label someone as a paedophile, potentially ruining their life, with no proof?

If the guy really is a paedophile then it's unlikely he would advertise the fact by training cameras on your daughter's room. He probably doesn't even realise it is her room.

He's probably got paranoid over some neighbour dispute or repeated vandalism and has put up the cameras as a result.

thegman

1,928 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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P-bomb.

Hmm that didn't give me the rush I was hoping for.

SpydieNut

5,800 posts

223 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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silversun said:
Sure I'm going to get flamed for this, but do people seriously think it's a good thing to label someone as a paedophile, potentially ruining their life, with no proof?

If the guy really is a paedophile then it's unlikely he would advertise the fact by training cameras on your daughter's room. He probably doesn't even realise it is her room.

He's probably got paranoid over some neighbour dispute or repeated vandalism and has put up the cameras as a result.
ok, but - why did he not only fail to take the OP's concerns seriously, but actually get aggressive?

also, why, if he's had vandelism etc, did he not say that was why the cameras were up.

even if it is innocent, he should restrict their field of vision to his own property.