Caught by your M6 toll tag

Caught by your M6 toll tag

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softtop

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3,059 posts

248 months

Saturday 6th September 2008
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If you sign up for a tag to remove the need to pay each time you use the toll surely you could find yourself in trouble if the times on the receipt showed you had travelled between the two points quicker than allowed? I want a tag but not the hassle??

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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i don't know of anyone busted for times, and considering the m6toll is struggling, even the hint of big brother watching the toll booths would destroy them.

the worst you would get is 60 quid and 3 points, the toll road would loose hundreds of thousands if they try a trick like that

Jasandjules

69,988 posts

230 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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I think it would be good if we all avoided using the Toll if it's struggling, that should be the death knell of pay roads in the UK..

Wolff

413 posts

216 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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is there not only one toll booth on the M6 toll road? Somewhere in the middle? So they would be unable to time you... Or have things changed since the last time I was up that way?

andyquantum

13,204 posts

205 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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I wont use it on principal. It technically could have saved me lots of time but I begrudge paying to use it

Deluded

4,968 posts

192 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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I have had plenty of chances to use the toll but refuse based on the fact that it's £4.50 or similar for a car! For the sake of driving down a road which you don't actually need to, thats rediculously expencive!

I am sure ALOT more people reconsider if it was around £1 - £1.50 instead and they would probably make far more money.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

223 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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softtop said:
If you sign up for a tag to remove the need to pay each time you use the toll surely you could find yourself in trouble if the times on the receipt showed you had travelled between the two points quicker than allowed? I want a tag but not the hassle??
There are no "two points".

siscar

6,887 posts

218 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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softtop said:
If you sign up for a tag to remove the need to pay each time you use the toll surely you could find yourself in trouble if the times on the receipt showed you had travelled between the two points quicker than allowed? I want a tag but not the hassle??
It only gets scanned once - you only go through one toll booth.

I'm all for people avoiding the M6 toll, keep it nice and empty for those of us who are happy to pay. In fact we could have more toll roads, brilliant idea, a bit like congestion charging - force people who aren't able to pay onto public transport and keep the roads for the rich!

ffelan

637 posts

254 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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there are two points if you do not traverse its whole length......


I am torn on this cos I love the toll road - its low level of speed enforcement enables 120+ running with little worry. As has been said earlier any hint of a crackdown would destroy it. If they want to make money out of the toll road why not ban wagons 8am till 8 pm raise the limit to 130mph,, and then from 8pm till 8 am allow wagons but allow them to run @ 80 not 56mph.... cars would be limited to 100 during this time so the differential is not too big...



oh for common sense....





planetdave

9,921 posts

254 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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Fort Jefferson said:
softtop said:
If you sign up for a tag to remove the need to pay each time you use the toll surely you could find yourself in trouble if the times on the receipt showed you had travelled between the two points quicker than allowed? I want a tag but not the hassle??
There are no "two points".
Even if they had two points the Data Protection Act stops them from using the information unless/until they enact legislation/get Home Office type approval.

If they felt like it they could use your mobile phone to track your speed across country. Isn't personal digital data wonderful wink

Fire99

9,844 posts

230 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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Deluded said:
I have had plenty of chances to use the toll but refuse based on the fact that it's £4.50 or similar for a car! For the sake of driving down a road which you don't actually need to, thats rediculously expencive!

I am sure ALOT more people reconsider if it was around £1 - £1.50 instead and they would probably make far more money.
Totally agree...

I used the M6 Toll Road a couple of times when i had to travel that way with work and they were paying the bill but would never when it was out of my own pocket.. Perhaps still wrong in principal but i was always in a hurry..

One thing i did notice was that nearly every time i've been that way the traffic boards have said that the M6 had congestion but the Toll Road was clear.. And even when i went up the 'normal' M6 the traffic was fine..

I'm thinking there may be a little creativity on the 'Traffic Warnings' to try and boost revenue on the toll road..

hot metal

1,945 posts

194 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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andyquantum said:
I wont use it on principal. It technically could have saved me lots of time but I begrudge paying to use it
Time is money smile

siscar

6,887 posts

218 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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ffelan said:
there are two points if you do not traverse its whole length......
No there aren't. The main 'toll plazas' are at the north of the northbound and the south of the southbound then there are points on every exit. So if you get off part way you go through one at the exit if you don't get off part way you go through one at the end. But either way you only go through one of them.

snorkel sucker

2,662 posts

204 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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ffelan said:
there are two points if you do not traverse its whole length......


I am torn on this cos I love the toll road - its low level of speed enforcement enables 120+ running with little worry. As has been said earlier any hint of a crackdown would destroy it. If they want to make money out of the toll road why not ban wagons 8am till 8 pm raise the limit to 130mph,, and then from 8pm till 8 am allow wagons but allow them to run @ 80 not 56mph.... cars would be limited to 100 during this time so the differential is not too big...



oh for common sense....
+1

of course, something like this would never happen, not even as a trial.

shame, as the toll is just crying out for it.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

223 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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Deluded said:
I am sure ALOT more people reconsider if it was around £1 - £1.50 instead and they would probably make far more money.
But thats not what "they" want. They want the most money for the fewest cars. The last thing they want is lots of cars using it and wearing it out.

siscar

6,887 posts

218 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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planetdave said:
Even if they had two points the Data Protection Act stops them from using the information unless/until they enact legislation/get Home Office type approval.
It's a wonderful thing the DPA, amazing the stuff it's alleged to contain. I'm one of the rare fools who has actually read it, in fact I have a copy on my desk and I'd love someone to point out which clause would stop them doing that if their registration was amended to cover it. (other than the fact that, as already discussed, they only scan the tag once so don't have the data.)

Edited by siscar on Sunday 7th September 10:51

robwales

1,427 posts

211 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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Fort Jefferson said:
Deluded said:
I am sure ALOT more people reconsider if it was around £1 - £1.50 instead and they would probably make far more money.
But thats not what "they" want. They want the most money for the fewest cars. The last thing they want is lots of cars using it and wearing it out.
I watched a programme a while ago about the German autobahns and the director said that far more damage was done to motorways by rainwater than vehicles.

Adz The Rat

14,191 posts

210 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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Those toll booths are great for a drag racing start when there is a big convoy of you hehe

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Monday 8th September 2008
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Adz The Rat said:
Those toll booths are great for a drag racing start when there is a big convoy of you hehe
Absolutely. Worth the fee just to erm test acceleration claims.

briSk

14,291 posts

227 months

Monday 8th September 2008
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although i have seen chavs pulled for that.

racing puma 2 up, me (massive!) and wife and luggage in MCS and vr6 all stayed pretty even one saturday AM!