Modern full body Locost Seven Designs
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Was wondering what you all thought of modern looking full body clothed Locost sevens ?
I was looking at this project and thought looked really interesting and original, a modern fury....
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
Then you have the Aeon Epona project, a mini- TVR inspired design:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid...
I was wondering if this is a future niche in the kitcar industry, rebodying Locost Seven chassis ?..........I believe both would have a lot of potential if manufactured in th near future.
I was looking at this project and thought looked really interesting and original, a modern fury....
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
Then you have the Aeon Epona project, a mini- TVR inspired design:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid...
I was wondering if this is a future niche in the kitcar industry, rebodying Locost Seven chassis ?..........I believe both would have a lot of potential if manufactured in th near future.
Nice idea, the Epona is really coming along (I've just read through both threads 
), also found this thread after some searching on the subject http://www.locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44... about Locost aerodynamics (you've posted there already i see, Italo!) and has some different ideas and suggestions for seven bodywork. There are a few different ways of doing it, the TVR/Epona full swoopy bodywork design, or keep it similar to a seven, but with fuller bodywork, like the 'Scandinavian Seven' racing car bodywork in that thread and here - http://www.n7cc.no/
Except for the Epona, seven bodies are usually roadsters, not coupes. The bonnet line is so low that putting a roof on them makes them look strange, althought the Epona has blended the roof into the design very well.
), also found this thread after some searching on the subject http://www.locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44... about Locost aerodynamics (you've posted there already i see, Italo!) and has some different ideas and suggestions for seven bodywork. There are a few different ways of doing it, the TVR/Epona full swoopy bodywork design, or keep it similar to a seven, but with fuller bodywork, like the 'Scandinavian Seven' racing car bodywork in that thread and here - http://www.n7cc.no/Except for the Epona, seven bodies are usually roadsters, not coupes. The bonnet line is so low that putting a roof on them makes them look strange, althought the Epona has blended the roof into the design very well.
I like the look of the DSN390 a lot! Not seen that before, but it looks very sleek. It looks like it's body could be grafted onto an existing 7, although you may struggle to get someone who has spent that much time and effort on a project to sell you all the most visual bits as they don;t know what you're going to shove under it all! As for the Epona shell, I don't think it will fit on a normal 7 chassis as it's been designed to have full doors, and as such it has no real sides. Which would mean cutting quite important chunks out of the chassis! Might work if you have a full cage though.
Oh, should say I like the Epona that much I have every intention of buying and building one. Except I want mine to be faster than Gaz's, who designed the shell!
Oh, should say I like the Epona that much I have every intention of buying and building one. Except I want mine to be faster than Gaz's, who designed the shell!
Edited by Snake the Sniper on Saturday 27th December 21:51
fuoriserie said:
Was wondering what you all thought of modern looking full body clothed Locost sevens ?
As you know Italo...I'm a big fan of clothed '7's. The '7' market is so saturated and the visual differences are so small that it tends (for me) to detract from the individuality that the UK Kit market has always been successful in delivering.
Forget doors (sorry Gaz
), if '7's can do without so can these, and make visually interesting cars. With transverse donors becoming more prevalent mid-engined cars are the way forward and you NEED integrated bodywork to avoid the hideous compromise that Robin Hood's effort was.I'm a big fan of the Riot, but even more so of Stuart Mills Sonic 7.
I'd be even more interested to see a truly modern version of Lotus' Eleven or 23.
Ferg,
I know what you mean about a new version of the 11 or 23, but I'm not convinced that it would work well. The 11 doesn't lend itself to being redone as the original is so small. A rework would have to be much bigger, and I think it would look a bit peculiar, unless the driver was quite big too. That was the one thing that put me off the 11, I'm just too big and it looked like I was sat in a shoe. The 23, however, could be done, as there's a nice big rear deck to hide silly engines under. Although again, it might have to be a bit bigger all round.
I know what you mean about a new version of the 11 or 23, but I'm not convinced that it would work well. The 11 doesn't lend itself to being redone as the original is so small. A rework would have to be much bigger, and I think it would look a bit peculiar, unless the driver was quite big too. That was the one thing that put me off the 11, I'm just too big and it looked like I was sat in a shoe. The 23, however, could be done, as there's a nice big rear deck to hide silly engines under. Although again, it might have to be a bit bigger all round.
Snake the Sniper said:
Ferg,
I know what you mean about a new version of the 11 or 23, but I'm not convinced that it would work well. The 11 doesn't lend itself to being redone as the original is so small. A rework would have to be much bigger.
I'm fairly lost on the reasoning here. Why do small cars present a problem of this sort? The '7' is a small car, yet it has been replicated time and again in similar dimensions. Granted it's also been enlarged in some incarnations, but many '7' 'replicas' are true to the original size.I know what you mean about a new version of the 11 or 23, but I'm not convinced that it would work well. The 11 doesn't lend itself to being redone as the original is so small. A rework would have to be much bigger.
The Eleven is quite spacious inside, although the Westfield version tends to be spoilt by the fitting of bulky seats.
Surely this bloke doesn't look like he's sitting in a shoe...??
You guys gave me some godd ideas to work with, eventhough years ago I did post a seven rebody........, and forgot about it........
I still like the design, but will rework and update it it without doors, as it would simplify the build.
, and forgot about it........I still like the design, but will rework and update it it without doors, as it would simplify the build.
Edited by fuoriserie on Sunday 28th December 11:50
ajprice said:
I've had a quick play in photoshop . To keep it with the 'modern Lotus' theme I made the Hot Wheels Lotus concept into a front engined car that would be based on a 7. I have no idea how huge those rear wheels would be!
Nice, I like that..... . To keep it with the 'modern Lotus' theme I made the Hot Wheels Lotus concept into a front engined car that would be based on a 7. I have no idea how huge those rear wheels would be! Edited by ajprice on Sunday 28th December 13:03
http://www.classic-kitcars.com/22/22picgallery.htm
I was thinking also along the lines of a modern Sylva leader.....
I was thinking also along the lines of a modern Sylva leader.....
Snake the Sniper said:
Ferg,
I know what you mean about a new version of the 11 or 23, but I'm not convinced that it would work well. The 11 doesn't lend itself to being redone as the original is so small. A rework would have to be much bigger, and I think it would look a bit peculiar, unless the driver was quite big too. That was the one thing that put me off the 11, I'm just too big and it looked like I was sat in a shoe. The 23, however, could be done, as there's a nice big rear deck to hide silly engines under. Although again, it might have to be a bit bigger all round.
Saw a 23 replica at Stoneleigh a couple of years ago very nice.I know what you mean about a new version of the 11 or 23, but I'm not convinced that it would work well. The 11 doesn't lend itself to being redone as the original is so small. A rework would have to be much bigger, and I think it would look a bit peculiar, unless the driver was quite big too. That was the one thing that put me off the 11, I'm just too big and it looked like I was sat in a shoe. The 23, however, could be done, as there's a nice big rear deck to hide silly engines under. Although again, it might have to be a bit bigger all round.
http://www.tigerracing.com/era-30.php
Saw the Costin at Detling ages ago allegedly designed by the same guy who did the Lotus 11, very small midengined car with an 11 type front.
http://www.specialistautomotive.com
Nice sketch, Italo. Looks very modern, and I like the big side gills . This is kind of related as its a small sports car, here are the design sketches for the Smart Roadster, I only recently found them on a Smart forum .
http://www.peterkeist.ch/smart/behind_the_scenes/i...
Edit: Tricky hadn't posted when I was posting this, I didn't know he had said that .
. This is kind of related as its a small sports car, here are the design sketches for the Smart Roadster, I only recently found them on a Smart forum .http://www.peterkeist.ch/smart/behind_the_scenes/i...
Edit: Tricky hadn't posted when I was posting this, I didn't know he had said that
.Edited by ajprice on Sunday 28th December 16:58
Edited by ajprice on Sunday 28th December 16:59
Tricky1984 said:
fuoriserie said:
Here is a rough sketch of one of my ideas for a modern rebody.......front Fiat Bravo headlight units...
I think thats already been done, its called a Smart Roadster....ajprice said:
Nice sketch, Italo. Looks very modern, and I like the big side gills . This is kind of related as its a small sports car, here are the design sketches for the Smart Roadster, I only recently found them on a Smart forum .
http://www.peterkeist.ch/smart/behind_the_scenes/i...
Edit: Tricky hadn't posted when I was posting this, I didn't know he had said that .
Nice sketches, I'd never seen those, but it seems the design language I'm looking at is similar.......I was more influenced by the Pininfarina Rossa concept car, and not the smart, but being the seven such a small car, the dimension are almost the same..... . This is kind of related as its a small sports car, here are the design sketches for the Smart Roadster, I only recently found them on a Smart forum .http://www.peterkeist.ch/smart/behind_the_scenes/i...
Edit: Tricky hadn't posted when I was posting this, I didn't know he had said that
.Edited by ajprice on Sunday 28th December 16:58
Edited by ajprice on Sunday 28th December 16:59
Thanks for the link......
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