Ferrari 'Barcode'?
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Lordbenny

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241 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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I seem to remember first seeing the 'barcode' on the side of the Ferrari airbox when it replaced the Marlboro advertising a while ago, so, what's it all about?




Alex97

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210 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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They can't advertise tobacco within the EU, so for Euro races, the marlboro logo is replaced by a barcode.

[edit for poor spelling]

Edited by Alex97 on Sunday 13th September 20:02

Eric Mc

124,700 posts

287 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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No ciggie advertising anywhere these days - not just the EU.

Lordbenny

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241 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
No ciggie advertising
I realise that...I want to know, why the 'bar code'? Is it a bar code & if it is, how much would a 2009 F1 ferrari be worth if it was scanned in Tescos?

SamHH

5,065 posts

238 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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I think that the law in some of the none-EU countries that hold grands prix may allow cigarette advertising, but if cigarette branding was used at those races, they could not be broadcast in the EU.

SamHH

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238 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Lordbenny said:
Eric Mc said:
No ciggie advertising
I realise that...I want to know, why the 'bar code'?
Because it gets around the rules banning cigarette advertising whilst still giving some connection to the Marlboro brand.

BMR

953 posts

200 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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I don't know if they even show the Marlboro logo in non European events now?

acf8181

797 posts

256 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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SamHH said:
Lordbenny said:
Eric Mc said:
No ciggie advertising
I realise that...I want to know, why the 'bar code'?
Because it gets around the rules banning cigarette advertising whilst still giving some connection to the Marlboro brand.
Yep, theyre not allowed even the marlboro logo anymore.....however, marlboro are of the opinion that the barcode still triggers the mind to it being marlboro

VX Foxy

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265 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Does the barcode have any meaning?

SamHH

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238 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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VX Foxy said:
Does the barcode have any meaning?
Other than being evocative of the Marlboro branding, I don't think so.

Steve UK

290 posts

208 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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SamHH said:
VX Foxy said:
Does the barcode have any meaning?
Other than being evocative of the Marlboro branding, I don't think so.
Has anyone tried to scan it?

Doh silly question, If I had one thats the last thing on my mind. I would be booking a trackday smile

Lordbenny

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Sunday 13th September 2009
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SamHH said:
VX Foxy said:
Does the barcode have any meaning?
Other than being evocative of the Marlboro branding, I don't think so.
So Ferrari are still being paid by Marlboro to put a bar code on the side of their car?

I really dont think many people would find the white lines on the side of the car 'evocative' or having a relevance to the brand.

SamHH

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238 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Lordbenny said:
So Ferrari are still being paid by Marlboro to put a bar code on the side of their car?

I really dont think many people would find the white lines on the side of the car 'evocative' or having a relevance to the brand.
Yes, Philip Morris, the manufacturers of Marlboro cigarettes, sponsor Ferrari. The team's full name is Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

222 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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I think the arrangement is Philip Morris (Marlboro) have bought pretty much the entire car for advertising, they then resell the space to other companies. Don't know where I read it, but I think that's the situation. As to the barcode, well I remember when the anti fag rules began to come in, I think they tried all sorts of thing, filing in the letters, then a barcode that matched the shape of Marlboro, that suggested, if you squinted and looked through your fingers you could be forgiven for thinking it could still say Marlboro, not sure but I don't think they can use the red and white chevron thing now, such as it's a logo, and associated with the brand. Could be wrong.

It's going to be alcohol advertising next, the charity/medical pressure "industry" is starting to blame binge and underage drinking on advertising, and call for a ban on sports advertising, we are apparently being brain washed, of course the alcohol companies don't help themselves by trotting the same argument that tobacco companies use to give, that they are not about attracting new drinkers/smokers but getting existing consumers to change brand. When really what they should say is we are looking to attract new customers (and brand changers) but we believe in freedom of choice, and don't believe in pandering to the nanny (tax revenue raising) state types, that wish to ban everything that is fun, eventually they'll be banning motorsport, due to it's waste of natural resources, risk to health and the madness of going around in circles.

zac510

5,546 posts

228 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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People still make the visual connection between the barcode and the Marlboro name. Or at least that's the myth they spread so that you can make a brain connection before you make the visual connection again when you see the car smile

A couple of years ago I saw a Ferrari branded Marlboro cig packet - its purpose was clearly attempting to make the connection of Ferrari F1 back to the Marlboro cigs. Not illegal to put a car on a cig packet to my knowledge. But they seem to have dropped it for whatever reason. Or at least I haven't seen it around in the UK.

deevlash

10,442 posts

259 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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marlboro are a clothing brand arent they? wink

Zod

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280 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Steve UK said:
SamHH said:
VX Foxy said:
Does the barcode have any meaning?
Other than being evocative of the Marlboro branding, I don't think so.
Has anyone tried to scan it?

Doh silly question, If I had one thats the last thing on my mind. I would be booking a trackday smile
How do we know that the barcode doesn't say "Marlboro"? They could be advertising illegally to people who can read barcodes!

andy_s

19,785 posts

281 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Bloody nanny state, the drivers don't even spark up any more at the end of the race.

Muzzer

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243 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
No ciggie advertising anywhere these days - not just the EU.
Is it not allowed in the Middle East?

I seem to remember the Ducatis running Marlboro branding in the Dubai MotoGP...?

andyps

7,819 posts

304 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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deevlash said:
marlboro are a clothing brand arent they? wink
Yes, in the same way as Benson and Hedges considered becoming a coffee brand. I don't know the detail, but it seems the advertising ban also excludes them promoting other products sharing the brand name.

I have often wondered if the barcode used is the one from a pack of Marlboro. Maybe I should buy a pack just to check. is that how advertising works? wink

Edited by andyps on Monday 14th September 09:27