I've located my "missing" power steering fluid
I've located my "missing" power steering fluid
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Ireland

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3,517 posts

239 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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For the last few weeks I've noticed that the seal at the top of the steering rack (is it called the input seal?) has started to leak again.

Now that's not surprising as the shaft was pretty badly scored when I took it out the last time.

Whoever had replaced the seal before me had butchered the shaft to get out the seal.

I got it smoothed off but wasn't fully happy and did indeed expect the leak to re-appear so no surprise there.

What was surprising however was the actual amount of fluid that was leaking this time ..... about an egg-cup full per week which was way more that I'd have expected from the weeping seal.

And there was very little fluid on the ground under the car so it didn't seem like it was all leaking while the car was parked in the garage.

I'd put it down to the pressure of the pump while the engine was running and turning the steering wheel causing the seal to leak worse and losing the fluid on the road as I was driving along but I was wrong.

BIG TIME.

I was under the car tonight doing a "routine visual check" to see if anything was falling off (as you do seeing as it's a TVR) and discovered where the fluid all went ..... into the gaiter on the drivers side of the steering rack.

It was like a balloon filled with water.

So it looks like the rack is going to be coming out fully this time and will be getting a complete refurb.

It just goes to show how poor the build quality of some of TVRs own parts is.

I had something similar happen to a 3-series BMW I owned a few years back but that was after 200,000 miles whereas the Cerb has only 50-something thousand on it now.


For what it's worth, have any of you managed to fit any other steering rack into your Cerbs?

If so what was it off and is it a straghtforward replacement or is there much modification to be done to get it to fit?

HRG.

72,863 posts

264 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Is it the same as the Griff/Chim one as they are equally pants!

Ireland

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239 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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HRG. said:
Is it the same as the Griff/Chim one as they are equally pants!
I don't know.

I've never seen one of those.

The Cerb one is a TVR in-house product (well at least it has TVR stamped on it and the last time I did a search nobody had any idea if it was off anything else "sensible").

HRG.

72,863 posts

264 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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I'm on my third rebuild, it's time we had a sensibly priced and reliable replacement! My understanding is it's an in house alloy version of the SD1 rack. How would you go about finding offsets and angles etc?

I do know the Griff PAS one is 2.5 lock to lock.

Ireland

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Friday 6th November 2009
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What's an SD1 ?

BertB

1,104 posts

250 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Ireland said:
What's an SD1 ?
Think he means a Rover SD1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_SD1

Ireland

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Friday 6th November 2009
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BertB said:
Ireland said:
What's an SD1 ?
Think he means a Rover SD1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_SD1
Thanks.

Now I know what those big Rovers were actually called.

biggrin


So basically we have a steering rack that was designed in the early '70s.

And designed by Rover at that when they certainly weren't at their engineering best.

No wonder it breaks so often.


Is there any alternatives we know of?

HRG.

72,863 posts

264 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Rover.

Has yours got a part number embossed half way along it? I think it will be H0249, will check mine in the morning

Ireland

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239 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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There is a part number on mine alright but I'm not sure what it is.

I'll check and post once I know.

HRG.

72,863 posts

264 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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I've a sneaking suspicion they'll be the same.

Ireland

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3,517 posts

239 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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I've been out for a look and it's hard to make out what's written on it.

The casting is slightly damaged from whoever split the rack last time.

Here's a picture of what's on it.

Best of luck trying to figure out what's on it 'cos I can't


al 350i

974 posts

220 months

Saturday 7th November 2009
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had the same prob on a cerb, on full lock i could get the fluid to squirt out of the gaiter about a foot hehe
i though the rack was unique to the cerb (2 turns lock to lock) but i could be wrong, got mine refurbed by power steering services 135 pounds. new racks seem stupidly expensive but can't belive TVR didn't rob the parts from somewhere!

Gazzab

21,588 posts

307 months

Saturday 7th November 2009
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http://www.steering-racks.co.uk/

Just googled this place.

Ireland

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3,517 posts

239 months

Saturday 7th November 2009
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Gazzab said:
http://www.steering-racks.co.uk/

Just googled this place.
I've e-mailed them so we'll see what happens.


Also surely there must be some place that sells steering racks that get fitted to kit cars / racing specials / etc.

Do any of you know of such a place?

Gazzab

21,588 posts

307 months

Saturday 7th November 2009
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RECONDITION-OF-TVR-POWER-STE...

This place claims to refurb TVR steering racks.

Mr.Cerbera

5,149 posts

255 months

Saturday 7th November 2009
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al 350i said:
.....on full lock i could get the fluid to squirt out of the gaiter about a foot hehe
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Yup, have the same problem with my rack... hehe


Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

271 months

Saturday 7th November 2009
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As far as I can remember the actual rack is from a BMW 3 series in a TVR casting. The track rods, not ends, are from a Ford Granada. I got this information from a company in Greenwich called Power Steering Services. They were recommended to me by a local Aston restorer as its the only place he sends his racks too. Really great service at reasonable cost.

(I have nothing to do with them just had great service)

FarmyardPants

4,324 posts

243 months

Saturday 7th November 2009
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Mr.Cerbera said:
al 350i said:
.....on full lock i could get the fluid to squirt out of the gaiter about a foot hehe
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Yup, have the same problem with my rack... hehe

I didn't recognise you for a minute there Paul, you don't often wear your hair up. Or wear any hair for that matter hehe

John D.

20,451 posts

234 months

Saturday 7th November 2009
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Mr.Cerbera said:
Yup, have the same problem with my rack... hehe
laugh

HRG.

72,863 posts

264 months

Saturday 7th November 2009
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I'm on my third rebuild, if anyone wants advice on Greenwich Power Steering Services, feel free to ask. Yes, that's three rebuilds and it's still not leak free... I can also tell you of other people who hold very similar opinions to me.