Driving Position Ergonomics - Anyone ever noticed??
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I did some work recently where the ergonomics of cars & their driving positions was highlighted. Now I've often noticed things are'nt quite right in certain cars but I really can't believe what you can buy currently today
Astonishingly one of the UK's most popular cars is truly horrific & there's a luxury German brand thats almost as bad on some of their models
So
Part 1) Do you think your car is egomically correct?
Part 2) Have you ever had a look in detail?
Part 3) Report you findings, I think you may be surprised!
What I'm referring to is the driving position in relation to your body centre line, steering wheel offset, and importantly steering angle relative to straight ahead & finally pedal offset.
Here's an image of what to look at, to help along the way, placing a ruler or similar across the wheel helps highlight the wheel angle
If you can name the either of the two worst cars above you win a *
Astonishingly one of the UK's most popular cars is truly horrific & there's a luxury German brand thats almost as bad on some of their models
So
Part 1) Do you think your car is egomically correct?
Part 2) Have you ever had a look in detail?
Part 3) Report you findings, I think you may be surprised!
What I'm referring to is the driving position in relation to your body centre line, steering wheel offset, and importantly steering angle relative to straight ahead & finally pedal offset.
Here's an image of what to look at, to help along the way, placing a ruler or similar across the wheel helps highlight the wheel angle
If you can name the either of the two worst cars above you win a *
I never could work out why I couldn't ever sit square in my focus. Think this explains it.
Regards body centre line, my 106 fails dismally on that! Standard, the steering wheel and pedals are offset to the left about 3 inches. I've moved my seat over a bit but it's still over an inch offset.
I'll measure up my Volvo 940 when I get a minute although I have a sneaky suspicion those Swedes might have got things pretty bang-on. It's not like they where short of space to make room for things!
Regards body centre line, my 106 fails dismally on that! Standard, the steering wheel and pedals are offset to the left about 3 inches. I've moved my seat over a bit but it's still over an inch offset.
I'll measure up my Volvo 940 when I get a minute although I have a sneaky suspicion those Swedes might have got things pretty bang-on. It's not like they where short of space to make room for things!
I hired an Alfa Brera. With the seat set so that my leg still had a slight bend with the clutch fully depressed, it was impossible to bring the steering wheel close enough to rest my wrist on the top with my shoulders touching the seat back. I have long arms. It has a crap driving position.
In mid-engined cars the front wheels generally intrude into the driver's footwell which results in pedals offset towards the centre of the car.
Lots of cars engineered primarily for the continent (left hand drive) end up with a compromised pedal layout when built RHD. You need somewhere to "rest" your clutch foot but don't need anywhere to rest your throttle & brake foot!
Lots of cars engineered primarily for the continent (left hand drive) end up with a compromised pedal layout when built RHD. You need somewhere to "rest" your clutch foot but don't need anywhere to rest your throttle & brake foot!
This is my pet hate in cars, and I find it quite amazing that they can get it so wrong today.
The following cars that have been through my possession are spot-on:
Scooby Legacy
Merc ML
Caterham
Cerbera
... and a Citroen XM pool car was fantastically comfy.
But various other cars I've owned and borrowed were horribly offset, including:
Vecras
Renault Megan
Citroen CX (although the seat was really comfy)
Ford Orion
BMW 3-series
Toyota Avensis
The following cars that have been through my possession are spot-on:
Scooby Legacy
Merc ML
Caterham
Cerbera
... and a Citroen XM pool car was fantastically comfy.
But various other cars I've owned and borrowed were horribly offset, including:
Vecras
Renault Megan
Citroen CX (although the seat was really comfy)
Ford Orion
BMW 3-series
Toyota Avensis
I have terrible trouble fitting in any car built after about 1980. If I set the seat so my legs have a slight bend then I can't even touch the steering wheel, let alone drive! The current Merc SLK is pretty much the only car that isn't a compromise for me. Any car built pre 1980 is fine though! Strange.
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