how strong is a single brick wall ? garage question

[steveo3002]

i rent a garage thats made from a single layer of normal size bricks , the rear end of it is stupidly high so i could fit shelves or maybe a old kitchen unit for added storage

the single layer of bricks doesnt strike me as being overly strong , would it be up to a shelf or unit ? not looking to hang engines off it

Edited by steveo3002 on Wednesday 12th January 15:56

[Spudler]

On its own not very strong, but with two walls at 90degs either end its very strong and more than cabable of supporting shelves/units etc.

[CedGTV]

Ditto that above, I would be looking to place a bearer at either end on the return walls and a central shelf support in the middle should they be only 150-250mm wide.

[steveo3002]

CedGTV said:

Ditto that above, I would be looking to place a bearer at either end on the return walls and a central shelf support in the middle should they be only 150-250mm wide.

a what ? im not into builders terms sorry?

so what do i need to fix a kitchen unit up ? your saying a corner is the safe bet?

oh and drill into brick or cement?

Edited by steveo3002 on Wednesday 12th January 20:03

[mrmaggit]

steveo3002 said:

CedGTV said:

Ditto that above, I would be looking to place a bearer at either end on the return walls and a central shelf support in the middle should they be only 150-250mm wide.

a what ? im not into builders terms sorry?

so what do i need to fix a kitchen unit up ? your saying a corner is the safe bet?

oh and drill into brick or cement?

Edited by steveo3002 on Wednesday 12th January 20:03

Bearer-a support, either bracket or pad (of a variety of materials) that supports.
Return walls-walls at 90 degrees to the main wall.
Central support-obvious, I'd have thought?
I'd be looking at fixing by screw and rawlplug in each corner, assuming the unit is about 600mm wide and 900mm-ish high. Just make sure your fixings are attached to the frame of the unit, not the ply or hardboard back-sheet.
A unit the sort of size would be safe fitted anywhere on the end wall of a single garage.
Always fix into the brickwork or blockwork. Some bricks have three large holes in them which can affect the load they can support on plugs, see if you can see or feel where the holes (if any) are, try to put the plug where the brick is solid.

[Engineer1]

Basically screw a piece of 2x2 or similar to the wall at all the points the shelf touches the wall so the two ends and along the back then support legs at the front if you feel the weight on the shelf will be high or that the shelf feels too flexible.

[CedGTV]

steveo3002 said:

CedGTV said:

Ditto that above, I would be looking to place a bearer at either end on the return walls and a central shelf support in the middle should they be only 150-250mm wide.

a what ? im not into builders terms sorry?

so what do i need to fix a kitchen unit up ? your saying a corner is the safe bet?

oh and drill into brick or cement?

Edited by steveo3002 on Wednesday 12th January 20:03

Sorry I should of elaborated a little further, but I am only on site with a laptop with a dongle Internet access and if I don't make the posts short and sweet the thing times out and I lose what I write.

Now we have a little more info, I would say that if it is actual kitchen wall units your hanging then i would of fixed two 2x1 or 2x2 timber battens onto the brickwork (not mortar) with 75mm x 8's or 10's screw fixings into brown plugs using a 6.5mm or 7mm drill bit for the 2x1 and 100mm screws same gauge for the 2x2 battens. Now depending on how much your thinking of loading the units themselves will lead you to which ever you decide on above.

I mentioned 2 battens as I would expect the wall units to be hung traditionally from their original fixings sited at the top corners (in line with the top batten) and then use the bottom batten as a packer to level up the unit sited 50mm up from the bottom edge.

I have done something similar at my Dads garage where I hung two double wall units at either ends of his double garage and infilled the middle 2-3 meters with 18mm MDF sheet screwed to the battens, with further shelves and his screw bin racking system.

Sorry no pictures as he has moved on from there now.

Good luck with it all.