Jaguar future prices?
Discussion
As a car enthusiast I have always had a soft spot for Jaguars. One of my very first experiences with a car was when my farther brought home a red XK8, the presence of the thing. I remember climbing in and shutting the big heavy doors and then to be welcomed by wood and leather, then by the rumble of the V8 power plant. Many moons have passed since then and although I’m still unable to afford a Jaguar of any description as I’m still relatively young (18) I am very much interested in what you guys/gals believe the future holds in terms of the value of past Jaguar models. Just so I have some indication of where the market might be heading in the near fututre.
e.g.
XJ12
E-type S1
Mk2
Xj220
Xjr-15
Xk120
Xk150
XKR
e.g.
XJ12
E-type S1
Mk2
Xj220
Xjr-15
Xk120
Xk150
XKR
I reckon the following will appreciate in the next few years:
XJ Coupe - values of these have been in the doldrums for ages but there now seems to be more interest from non-Jaguar enthusiasts. I nearly bought one recently but was outbid by a guy who worked in a hedge fund
XJ40 - well they can't get any cheaper can they The vast majority have disappeared. 1993 onwards versions (especially V12 and Daimler variants) will be sought after and preserved - they will come to be seen as a brave attempt to break away from the styling of the original XJ (I know Ian Callum would disagree). I've been trying to find a decent V12 XJ40 for ages
X300/X308 - many consider these the last of the classic Jaguar designs. Daimler and supercharged versions will be sought-after
and the following won't:
X350 XJ - I like them, but the consensus seems to be that the styling is not Jaguar's best - like an X308 that's eaten too many pies. Availability of electronic modules may consign them to history
XJ220 - these are not well known outside of Jaguar circles, so there's a limited market. I reckon they've gone as high as they reasonably can
Of course E-types and XK120 etc. will continue to appreciate. They will probably do well over the next few years. There is new demand from India and China where they love this stuff. And the turmoil in stock markets means that people look for safe havens for their money, like cars.
XJ Coupe - values of these have been in the doldrums for ages but there now seems to be more interest from non-Jaguar enthusiasts. I nearly bought one recently but was outbid by a guy who worked in a hedge fund
XJ40 - well they can't get any cheaper can they
The vast majority have disappeared. 1993 onwards versions (especially V12 and Daimler variants) will be sought after and preserved - they will come to be seen as a brave attempt to break away from the styling of the original XJ (I know Ian Callum would disagree). I've been trying to find a decent V12 XJ40 for agesX300/X308 - many consider these the last of the classic Jaguar designs. Daimler and supercharged versions will be sought-after
and the following won't:
X350 XJ - I like them, but the consensus seems to be that the styling is not Jaguar's best - like an X308 that's eaten too many pies. Availability of electronic modules may consign them to history
XJ220 - these are not well known outside of Jaguar circles, so there's a limited market. I reckon they've gone as high as they reasonably can
Of course E-types and XK120 etc. will continue to appreciate. They will probably do well over the next few years. There is new demand from India and China where they love this stuff. And the turmoil in stock markets means that people look for safe havens for their money, like cars.
AmitG said:
I reckon the following will appreciate in the next few years:
XJ Coupe - values of these have been in the doldrums for ages but there now seems to be more interest from non-Jaguar enthusiasts. I nearly bought one recently but was outbid by a guy who worked in a hedge fund
XJ40 - well they can't get any cheaper can they The vast majority have disappeared. 1993 onwards versions (especially V12 and Daimler variants) will be sought after and preserved - they will come to be seen as a brave attempt to break away from the styling of the original XJ (I know Ian Callum would disagree). I've been trying to find a decent V12 XJ40 for ages
X300/X308 - many consider these the last of the classic Jaguar designs. Daimler and supercharged versions will be sought-after
and the following won't:
X350 XJ - I like them, but the consensus seems to be that the styling is not Jaguar's best - like an X308 that's eaten too many pies. Availability of electronic modules may consign them to history
XJ220 - these are not well known outside of Jaguar circles, so there's a limited market. I reckon they've gone as high as they reasonably can
Of course E-types and XK120 etc. will continue to appreciate. They will probably do well over the next few years. There is new demand from India and China where they love this stuff. And the turmoil in stock markets means that people look for safe havens for their money, like cars.
XJ Coupe - values of these have been in the doldrums for ages but there now seems to be more interest from non-Jaguar enthusiasts. I nearly bought one recently but was outbid by a guy who worked in a hedge fund
XJ40 - well they can't get any cheaper can they
The vast majority have disappeared. 1993 onwards versions (especially V12 and Daimler variants) will be sought after and preserved - they will come to be seen as a brave attempt to break away from the styling of the original XJ (I know Ian Callum would disagree). I've been trying to find a decent V12 XJ40 for agesX300/X308 - many consider these the last of the classic Jaguar designs. Daimler and supercharged versions will be sought-after
and the following won't:
X350 XJ - I like them, but the consensus seems to be that the styling is not Jaguar's best - like an X308 that's eaten too many pies. Availability of electronic modules may consign them to history
XJ220 - these are not well known outside of Jaguar circles, so there's a limited market. I reckon they've gone as high as they reasonably can
Of course E-types and XK120 etc. will continue to appreciate. They will probably do well over the next few years. There is new demand from India and China where they love this stuff. And the turmoil in stock markets means that people look for safe havens for their money, like cars.
NormanD said:
Yes well thought out
I agree.AmitG has hit the nail on the head
whilst the X350 is a masterpiece of a car in terms of engineering(IMHO), it's styling has never quite captivated me, like a bloated X308. whereas I can sit staring at an X308 for hours on end, no kidding. the slight sad droop of the boot, the perfect proportions, the sleek nose. such a fine line between beauty and complete failure
XJ220: the price was buoyed up for years by the fact that the economy was booming and they were so rare, people didn't know how to value them. as I remember about 5 years ago the going rate for one was about £125,000. don't know what it is now, but I can't see it going up. killed by the McLaren F1, partly I suppose. and values for those are in the millions
I think that good Daimler Double Sixes and Jaguar XJ12s of the XJ40 series will go up, but poverty spec 2.9s will never increase. I saw an L-reg XJ12 for sale recently, put up for £2000 with 60,000 miles. beautiful thing. phoned up within maybe hours of it going up for sale and apparently they'd already already accepted bid over the phone from someone who was visiting the next day. I guess it went through, as the car never turned up again. this tells me there's some demand, and people promising to pay without seeing the car?crazy
E-Type, Mk2, XK120 and XK150 need no more to be said tbh. classics that are unlikely to die
XKR....not sure what to say. a few years ago the XJS was unloved and worth nothing, now they're appreciating. maybe we'll see the same with the XK8/XKR. it's a while off, though. probably have to wait through a few more generations. and I'm not sure it will, the XJS was two decades old when it went out of production, and 15 years later has had 35 years to reach classic status. the XK8/XKR is only 15 years old
XJR-15?no idea what they go for, never seen one up. probably more potential than the XJ220. wouldn't like to guess without looking at more facts/figures
whilst the X350 is a masterpiece of a car in terms of engineering(IMHO), it's styling has never quite captivated me, like a bloated X308. whereas I can sit staring at an X308 for hours on end, no kidding. the slight sad droop of the boot, the perfect proportions, the sleek nose. such a fine line between beauty and complete failure
XJ220: the price was buoyed up for years by the fact that the economy was booming and they were so rare, people didn't know how to value them. as I remember about 5 years ago the going rate for one was about £125,000. don't know what it is now, but I can't see it going up. killed by the McLaren F1, partly I suppose. and values for those are in the millions
I think that good Daimler Double Sixes and Jaguar XJ12s of the XJ40 series will go up, but poverty spec 2.9s will never increase. I saw an L-reg XJ12 for sale recently, put up for £2000 with 60,000 miles. beautiful thing. phoned up within maybe hours of it going up for sale and apparently they'd already already accepted bid over the phone from someone who was visiting the next day. I guess it went through, as the car never turned up again. this tells me there's some demand, and people promising to pay without seeing the car?crazy
E-Type, Mk2, XK120 and XK150 need no more to be said tbh. classics that are unlikely to die
XKR....not sure what to say. a few years ago the XJS was unloved and worth nothing, now they're appreciating. maybe we'll see the same with the XK8/XKR. it's a while off, though. probably have to wait through a few more generations. and I'm not sure it will, the XJS was two decades old when it went out of production, and 15 years later has had 35 years to reach classic status. the XK8/XKR is only 15 years old
XJR-15?no idea what they go for, never seen one up. probably more potential than the XJ220. wouldn't like to guess without looking at more facts/figures
Allcars go down in their 1st 10 years.They fluctuate at the bottom for a bit and then when they reach 25-30 years old or there abouts, they creep up and depending on rarity shoot up.
Jaguars are the same although some are less loved.Problem with jags are that they are costly to restore and so seem to remain low for ages.
Ones to watch for me are
Xj coupe-Sat too low for long time and are very desirable, when people start spending out on having them restored properly they will go the same route as the etype and in my opinion surpass it due to rarety.
Xjs TWR versions-Rare so will go up.
67 daimler sovereign-1st of the modern 4.2 so reliable,Lowest production numbers of Jaguars/Daimlers of that era,getting rare these days,good ones are rising.
XJ220- will not follow "Jaguar" patterns.It is V rare so it will follow EB110,959,F40 et all.Asking Prices have gone up alot in 2009/2010.Actual sale prices are sitting at around £120-130k from £100ish 4 years ago,LHD ones have gone from £30k lower than RHD,to £10k higher due to exchange rates inspite of the fact that they only made 50RHD.They are undervalued compared with similar ilk so will go up.
XJR15-Try telling Jaguar that it is a Jaguar.It is a TWR.One day they will be worth alot due to rarety.Niche market.
There are a few ltd editions or various models that will always outperform,bog standard models.
I know nothing of values of the newer cars, although best value Jag for me is the XJR..oh and the XKR.Shame no Manual.What value!
PS E types are, how can I put it politely..too bouyant in my opinion; inspite of the sheer number of survivors, they are high due to desirability and the fact that many of those buying them are relatively free of financial responsibility so can afford to pay the asking prices.
Jaguars are the same although some are less loved.Problem with jags are that they are costly to restore and so seem to remain low for ages.
Ones to watch for me are
Xj coupe-Sat too low for long time and are very desirable, when people start spending out on having them restored properly they will go the same route as the etype and in my opinion surpass it due to rarety.
Xjs TWR versions-Rare so will go up.
67 daimler sovereign-1st of the modern 4.2 so reliable,Lowest production numbers of Jaguars/Daimlers of that era,getting rare these days,good ones are rising.
XJ220- will not follow "Jaguar" patterns.It is V rare so it will follow EB110,959,F40 et all.Asking Prices have gone up alot in 2009/2010.Actual sale prices are sitting at around £120-130k from £100ish 4 years ago,LHD ones have gone from £30k lower than RHD,to £10k higher due to exchange rates inspite of the fact that they only made 50RHD.They are undervalued compared with similar ilk so will go up.
XJR15-Try telling Jaguar that it is a Jaguar.It is a TWR.One day they will be worth alot due to rarety.Niche market.
There are a few ltd editions or various models that will always outperform,bog standard models.
I know nothing of values of the newer cars, although best value Jag for me is the XJR..oh and the XKR.Shame no Manual.What value!
PS E types are, how can I put it politely..too bouyant in my opinion; inspite of the sheer number of survivors, they are high due to desirability and the fact that many of those buying them are relatively free of financial responsibility so can afford to pay the asking prices.
Edited by aycee on Tuesday 1st February 19:48
prices seem to be all over the place at the moment. Private sales seem to attract very low prices and one XJS on here is advertised at £50k by the time everything has hopefully settled down in the economy again we might start to get some sense back.
But supply and demand will be the basis of the market.
But supply and demand will be the basis of the market.
Modern cars loose money.
For the classics,
E-Type, these will go total nuts this year, its E-Type 50 and so you won't be able to move in the classic car press this year without seeing a million articles about Es.
Mk2s, these prices have been nuts for years, particularly for 3.8MODs.
XK120,140,150... there doesn't seem to be any change in the markets love of these beauties. It is possible than when the people who remember them get beyond the age they can collect them that the price will drop. But their values have just been steadily climbing over recent years and the recession doesn't seem to have touched them, in fact the reverse seems to be true.
E-Types are likely to go up in value faster. Sixties children are now in age group were they are likely to start wanting to buy classics.
Others Sixties Jags, the S-Types, they lag Mk2s, can't understand why but they do. Mk10s (420G) these have never been as popular, they are expensive to repair, more than they can be sold for, so getting rarer. The 420 is the least popular... same story as the Mk10.
For the classics,
E-Type, these will go total nuts this year, its E-Type 50 and so you won't be able to move in the classic car press this year without seeing a million articles about Es.
Mk2s, these prices have been nuts for years, particularly for 3.8MODs.
XK120,140,150... there doesn't seem to be any change in the markets love of these beauties. It is possible than when the people who remember them get beyond the age they can collect them that the price will drop. But their values have just been steadily climbing over recent years and the recession doesn't seem to have touched them, in fact the reverse seems to be true.
E-Types are likely to go up in value faster. Sixties children are now in age group were they are likely to start wanting to buy classics.
Others Sixties Jags, the S-Types, they lag Mk2s, can't understand why but they do. Mk10s (420G) these have never been as popular, they are expensive to repair, more than they can be sold for, so getting rarer. The 420 is the least popular... same story as the Mk10.
For what its worth my early XKR is on a classic policy this year. For people like me that cannot afford an E-Type its an obvious choice. And ever so slightly quicker and more reliable. I think that well sorted XKR's will eventually increase in value. Fed by the spare parts from the badly treated ones!
Pettsie said:
For what its worth my early XKR is on a classic policy this year. For people like me that cannot afford an E-Type its an obvious choice. And ever so slightly quicker and more reliable.
Funnily enough I can't remember the XK engine ever having had a problem with its:cylinder bores
timing chain tensions
water pumps
but I know what you mean.
aycee said:
Allcars go down in their 1st 10 years.They fluctuate at the bottom for a bit and then when they reach 25-30 years old or there abouts, they creep up and depending on rarity shoot up.
XJR15-Try telling Jaguar that it is a Jaguar.It is a TWR.One day they will be worth alot due to rarety.Niche market.
There are a few ltd editions or various models that will always outperform,bog standard models.
As of March 2011, asking price on a XJR-15 in the UK is GBP 275k, several for sale in Japan for GBP 230k-300k, and one in the Netherlands for GBP 600k.XJR15-Try telling Jaguar that it is a Jaguar.It is a TWR.One day they will be worth alot due to rarety.Niche market.
There are a few ltd editions or various models that will always outperform,bog standard models.
Edited by aycee on Tuesday 1st February 19:48
Octane have a buying feature on the X300/X308 XJR, suggesting they believe they will go up in the longer term. I'm not sure myself, what with petrol prices and fear of electronics/gearboxes going wrong but hey ho. They do suggest the X300 is the safer buy, which makes sense.
I personally feel the early XJ's are undervalued, but then you could say that about pretty much any classic saloon. According to the back of Classic Cars magazine a 4.2 XJ6 is about the same price as a Triumph GT6, I know which I would rather have...
I personally feel the early XJ's are undervalued, but then you could say that about pretty much any classic saloon. According to the back of Classic Cars magazine a 4.2 XJ6 is about the same price as a Triumph GT6, I know which I would rather have...
I am restoring one at the moment but without a doubt the XJS is one of "the" bargains to be had at the moment mine cost me £550 with MOT and Tax plus it is not a rust bucket and runs very well, its a 91 pre facelift 3.6 Sport. It is being resprayed at the moment I will put a topic in the classic car section when its finished.
From the old-school Jaguars i.e. up to and including the original XJ6, only the XJ coupes and series 1 XJ6/12 seem to me to be undervalued. They may appreciate at some time, but in the meantime buy and enjoy.
Post XJ6 S3 I don't see any Jaguar that will ever become a true collectable and hence valuable. The exception being racing cars and other rarities.
E-types and XK's (the 1950's variety) will continue to rise and rise.
Post XJ6 S3 I don't see any Jaguar that will ever become a true collectable and hence valuable. The exception being racing cars and other rarities.
E-types and XK's (the 1950's variety) will continue to rise and rise.
AmitG said:
XJ40 - well they can't get any cheaper can they The vast majority have disappeared. 1993 onwards versions (especially V12 and Daimler variants) will be sought after and preserved - they will come to be seen as a brave attempt to break away from the styling of the original XJ (I know Ian Callum would disagree). I've been trying to find a decent V12 XJ40 for ages
Glad to see someone agrees with me. Mine's only a 4.0 Sov, though, not one of the V12/R/Daimler variants. The vast majority have disappeared. 1993 onwards versions (especially V12 and Daimler variants) will be sought after and preserved - they will come to be seen as a brave attempt to break away from the styling of the original XJ (I know Ian Callum would disagree). I've been trying to find a decent V12 XJ40 for agesETA: An XJ40s holding/increasing of value will depend in a big way upon the colour it is.
aycee said:
Shows what a bargain they have been for so long.
Rarity speaks!
I still think that one you looked at, at Legends,that seems to have finally disappeared off the radar, was a bargain, inspite of what it needed.
The XJR15 that was at Legends back in 2009 is still being shopped around (Chassis #47). It is one for the very brave.Rarity speaks!
I still think that one you looked at, at Legends,that seems to have finally disappeared off the radar, was a bargain, inspite of what it needed.
This one (Chassis 38) however looks to be in excellent condition:
http://www.oselli.com/items/277?back=%2Fstock
iain_thornton said:
XJR-15?no idea what they go for, never seen one up. probably more potential than the XJ220. wouldn't like to guess without looking at more facts/figures
Considering that the XJR-15 is significantly rarer than the XJ220 and has both a race design heritage, being based on the XJR-9 LeMans winner, and the fact that they were raced in the Continental Challenge, long term they should appreciate significantly.Gassing Station | Jaguar | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff