Buying a Ring car

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doctorpepper

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5,137 posts

240 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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Hi,

I'm looking to buy a car to have as a 'ring car, probably something like a track prepared MkII golf GTi. The trouble is I'm over here and the 'ring is over there... I have heard nightmare stories about people trying to get their cars TUV approved so I was hoping to get a left hooker from somewhere close to the ring. Is there a german version of Autotrader?
Is the YUV approval just germany? or can I get a car from france/belgium?

Has anyone else done this kind of thing? Any help is much appreciated

shoestring7

6,138 posts

248 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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www.mobile.de

There's an English language version available, and most dealers speak English.

Good luck.

SS7

Adenauer

18,585 posts

238 months

hugoagogo

23,378 posts

235 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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i don't get it, does a UK car need TÜV approval to run on the ring? if you buy a german car and register it (and yourself, you'll need an address) in germany, any modifications (down to a different tyre size) will need TÜV approval to make it strictly legal, whereas i a UK car can have pretty much any mods and still be ok. You on about buying a pre-prepped car with approval already?

>> Edited by hugoagogo on Monday 6th March 08:51

doctorpepper

Original Poster:

5,137 posts

240 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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The plan is to leave it there so I'm looking for a left hooker thats already been modified and TUV'd

hugoagogo

23,378 posts

235 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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ah right. you'll still need to get registered yourself tho (or register it under a friendly local's name)

Adenauer

18,585 posts

238 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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If you fancy something a little different there is a fully prepped Nissan Primera at the Nissan garage in Adenau at the moment with cage, Nordschleife suspension and all the other right bits. It's only 150bhp and costs 5999 € but it's very well sorted, well, it would be, having been Dirk Schoysmann's training car..!

doctorpepper

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240 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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hmm... sounds interesting... but Im guessing its not road legal?

I need to be able to do the public days at the ring so I'm guessing it'll fall foul of the "road legal no slicks rule".

Also does anyone know if you can leave a UK registerd car at Ring racing?

thanks

Adenauer

18,585 posts

238 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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It is road legal, it's set up for tourist days on the Nordschleife and comes with a set of legal semi slicks and a set of rain tyres.

Adenauer

18,585 posts

238 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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Thinking out loud here but the other thing that you could probably push for to be included on the deal would be to use the garages address to register it and get them to store it too, hmmm.

Adenauer

18,585 posts

238 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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Yes you can leave a UK car at RR, it's about 55 € per month.

Joe911

2,763 posts

237 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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Adenauer said:
... well, it would be, having been Dirk Schoysmann's training car..!

I would of thought, by now, he'd be good enough not to need training!

doctorpepper

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240 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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Adenauer said:
It is road legal, it's set up for tourist days on the Nordschleife and comes with a set of legal semi slicks and a set of rain tyres.


Thats starting to sound liek a plan... can you email me the contact details if you have any please.

Adenauer

18,585 posts

238 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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I've just called the Nissan garage and they're selling it on behalf of a private customer, I've tried to call him but he isn't in. I'll keep trying and try to get him to mail me the spec and some pictures. It's not advertised on the net anywhere.

doctorpepper

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240 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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Adenauer said:
I've just called the Nissan garage and they're selling it on behalf of a private customer, I've tried to call him but he isn't in. I'll keep trying and try to get him to mail me the spec and some pictures. It's not advertised on the net anywhere.


Thanks... that'd be superb

Adenauer

18,585 posts

238 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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If I hadn't have bought the S2 already I'd have gone for it myself, it looks dead straight and is fully sorted. I'll let you know when I get any joy contacting the guy.

Adenauer

18,585 posts

238 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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OK, I've got hold of the guy and here's the spec.

2.0l Primera, the engine is standard 150bhp.
Bilstein Nordschleife Suspension
Strut braces front and back
Bigger Brakes
OMP racing seat & passenger bucket seat
Matter full cage
2 x Harnesses
1 new set of rain tyres
1 set of semi slicks
2 sets of wheels
Sport steering wheel.

It currently has about a year of Tüv left and he said that the Nissan garage in Adenau could re-tüv it easily.

125,000 kms which is about 80,000 miles I think.

€ 5999.-

He's going to see if he can find any pictures and will mail me them. He's selling it becuase he's bought an M3 for the ring.

iguana

7,044 posts

262 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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I know a few folks do do this, but would have thought is easier to just have a UK car (dont need road tax ) & bring it back once yr to get MOT'd, probabally over winter & use uk garages you know for major work & easier to get parts here, esp when it will just sit in the fatherland sitting idle for the winter, might as well sit on your driveway for free?

I came to this conclusion when hearing of a certain 'ring money pit 944, waaaaaay cheaper to have bought it here had an MOT rather than TUV & loads of well known UK specialists could have worked on it here for a fraction of the cost.

Adenauer

18,585 posts

238 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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Well, here's the spec and some pictures, the lazy, long haired lizard makes some good points but let's face it, Ben's 944 was always a pile of poo regardless of where it was kept

Nissan Primera P10 „Nordschleifen Edition“

2l Hubraum, 150 PS, mit Straßenzulassung, seit November 2005 abgemeldet, Bj. 91, Tüv und AU 09/2006, voll Straßentauglich. Original Motorsport/Bilstein Stoßdämpfer und H&R Federn, Aluminium Domstrebe an VA und HA, Sportlenkrad, OMP Rennschale, Sabelt 4-Punkt Gurt breite Ausführung, König Beifahrersitz, Feuerlöscher, Matter Käfig mit Flankenschutz, gelochte OMP Bremsscheiben vorne, K&N Luftfilter , 1 Satz Bremsbeläge HA (neu), 2 Sätze , 4 Alufelgen 7 x 15 mit Yokohama Semisliks, 4 Alufelgen 7 x 15 mit Uniroyal Regenreifen. Keine Rundstreckenrennen, keine Rallyes!
Winterpreis: 5999,--€

Ideal für die Nordschleife. Ex Trainings-Fahrzeug von Dirk Schoysmann und Th. Brügmann.
Das Fahrzeug ist in Bonnfinanzfarben beklebt und kann in Adenau (Autohaus Rausch) besichtigt werden.








domster

8,431 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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...and there should be space at RR now that Bren's Westie has been uprooted.

That Primera looks really good - putting the basic track car bits on anything would cost that money and if you want to do lap after lap you need to make a few sensible mods as it punishes normal road cars. Golf Mk2s cope surprisingly well, although the Lizard still has to claim disability benefit for a shrapnel wound sustained in the crimean just to afford the tyres and brakes.

If you go the english route, get something on PH classifieds that's track spec but road legal. Make sure some poor fecker has already spent money on suspension, brakes, cage etc. Otherwise, buy an old Mk2 Golf GTi and hammer it into the armco/paint over it should the worst happen. You can get an OK one for less than the cost of a brand new weld-in cage

ATB
Dom