It happened a week ago. No thread re. Cameron finds god.

It happened a week ago. No thread re. Cameron finds god.

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B Huey

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4,881 posts

201 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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David Cameron said we should all be a bit more like Jesus or we shall be spending eternity in damnation for not getting a bit more enthusiastic about the big society.

Anyone remember this?

Happened last weekend IIRC.



pacman1

7,323 posts

195 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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Capital C for Cameron, small g for God!

Randy Winkman

16,534 posts

191 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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Hush please - we're trying to pretend it didn't happen.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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I can't say I disagree with many of the values of Christianity and would welcome a return, to some extent. I won't be going to church though!

vonuber

17,868 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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So is he off to the City to turn over all their tables? biggrin

Pesty

42,655 posts

258 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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B Huey said:
David Cameron said we should all be a bit more like Jesus or we shall be spending eternity in damnation for not getting a bit more enthusiastic about the big society.

Anyone remember this?

Happened last weekend IIRC.
didnt hear it got a link? so we have another religeous fruit loop he definitely is blair 2.

didn't Jesus give away all his money and stuff? will multi millionaire cameron do the same or is it just our money he likes to give away to Afica and the rest of teh world.

smegmore

3,091 posts

178 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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vonuber said:
So is he off to the City to turn over all their tables? biggrin
Is he anti-drinking as well? yikes

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

209 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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smegmore said:
vonuber said:
So is he off to the City to turn over all their tables? biggrin
Is he anti-drinking as well? yikes
Well, J wasn't, so we're told, water into wine.

carmonk

7,910 posts

189 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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A bit more like Jesus? Does he mean an anti-establishment rabble-rouser? That's a strange thing for him to wish. Or does he mean he wants us to be delusional and think we can walk on water and rise from the dead. Equally inexplicable.

In actual fact Cameron has no clue what he's talking about. Christian on one hand, accepting of other religions and ways of life on the other. No, Mr Cameron, the Bible is clear on that. Those who worship other gods are not welcome in heaven and are contravening one of the basic tenets of Christianity. Cameron, like most moderate (cherry-picking) religious, appears to have litte knowledge of what exactly his religion tells him, and makes the schoolboy error of equating morality with religious instruction. To be honest I didn't know he was that dull.

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

209 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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carmonk said:
A bit more like Jesus? Does he mean an anti-establishment rabble-rouser? That's a strange thing for him to wish. Or does he mean he wants us to be delusional and think we can walk on water and rise from the dead. Equally inexplicable.

In actual fact Cameron has no clue what he's talking about. Christian on one hand, accepting of other religions and ways of life on the other. No, Mr Cameron, the Bible is clear on that. Those who worship other gods are not welcome in heaven and are contravening one of the basic tenets of Christianity. Cameron, like most moderate (cherry-picking) religious, appears to have litte knowledge of what exactly his religion tells him, and makes the schoolboy error of equating morality with religious instruction. To be honest I didn't know he was that dull.
Come on, you know what it was about, usual politician's ste about moral values, without really thinking it through, or his advisers and speech writers not doing so.
We've been here before, the appeal to the "middle".
Quite why he, or any PM before, can't say that morality does not have to be based on any religious belief I do not know.

pacman1

7,323 posts

195 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/05/2...

A senior Labour source added: “We know politicians like a big-name endorsement but this seems to be going a bit far.” laugh


carmonk

7,910 posts

189 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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WhoseGeneration said:
carmonk said:
A bit more like Jesus? Does he mean an anti-establishment rabble-rouser? That's a strange thing for him to wish. Or does he mean he wants us to be delusional and think we can walk on water and rise from the dead. Equally inexplicable.

In actual fact Cameron has no clue what he's talking about. Christian on one hand, accepting of other religions and ways of life on the other. No, Mr Cameron, the Bible is clear on that. Those who worship other gods are not welcome in heaven and are contravening one of the basic tenets of Christianity. Cameron, like most moderate (cherry-picking) religious, appears to have litte knowledge of what exactly his religion tells him, and makes the schoolboy error of equating morality with religious instruction. To be honest I didn't know he was that dull.
Come on, you know what it was about, usual politician's ste about moral values, without really thinking it through, or his advisers and speech writers not doing so.
We've been here before, the appeal to the "middle".
Quite why he, or any PM before, can't say that morality does not have to be based on any religious belief I do not know.
I think the reason is that the religious have a monopoly on being offended in these matters and their voice still carries a lot of weight. A politician can talk all day about morals being derived from scripture without fear of backlash, but if they suggest that morality does not require (and indeed is often the antithesis of) adherence to the impenetrable musings of a Middle-Eastern desert dweller then all hell would break lose, pardon the pun.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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To many on here Cameron is god

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

264 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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Pales into insignificance compared to ..


jmorgan

36,010 posts

286 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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That a clip from the new Alien film?

powerstroke

10,283 posts

162 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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I supose it's harmless enough until we get one in the future that claims to be muslim.. yikes

Digga

40,595 posts

285 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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pacman1 said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/05/2...

A senior Labour source added: “We know politicians like a big-name endorsement but this seems to be going a bit far.” laugh
Sharp and apt retort.

IMHO politicians are ill-advised to bring religion into the debate unless it is wholly relevant.

turbobloke

104,657 posts

262 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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Has Cameron found God in the same way that Bliar found Catholicism? The quote I heard was that CMD accepted he was a p/t Christian but considered that the messages of the bible relating to reasonable behaviour still had relevance and was suggesting that clergy might like to recall the fact. If there was another quote then a link to actual would be helpful since a Labour MP isn't an impartial commentator. Beyond that I agree with Digga that politicians should stick to politics - and bishops should stick to religion.

Bing o

15,184 posts

221 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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powerstroke said:
I supose it's harmless enough until we get one in the future that claims to be muslim.. yikes
But it's the religion of peace?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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powerstroke said:
I supose it's harmless enough until we get one in the future that claims to be muslim.. yikes
i'd rather have a Mulim in charge then an idiot