First Stuxnet, now Flame

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Marf

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12gauge

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175 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Stuxnet is the mossad thing that caused Fukushima to melt down, right?

hairykrishna

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204 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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12gauge said:
Stuxnet is the mossad thing that caused Fukushima to melt down, right?
It's the virus that could have (did?) buggered up centrifuges used for uranium enrichment in Iran. Possibly Israeli/Mossad but nobody really knows. Nothing to do with Fukishima...

CoopR

957 posts

237 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Fascinating stuff, it really is the tip of the iceberg and we're going to see so many more advanced cyber attacks in the future.

As an IT geek with an interest in security who's watched too much spooks it makes me wish I'd cost past page 5 in my shellcoders handbook smile

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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12gauge said:
Stuxnet is the mossad thing that caused Fukushima to melt down, right?
That would be the Tsunami.....but close.

wolves_wanderer

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238 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Jimbeaux said:
12gauge said:
Stuxnet is the mossad thing that caused Fukushima to melt down, right?
That would be the Tsunami.....but close.
hehe

12gauge

1,274 posts

175 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Jimbeaux said:
That would be the Tsunami.....but close.
Well, the quake/Tsunami were induced by HAARP. The MOSSAD colluded to make Fukushima's systems shut down making a nuclear disaster inevitable.

Why - to render a significant portion of the northern hemisphere irradiated to the point of no longer supporting significant human population for the next 1000 years or so. Expect similar disasters over the coming years until the commands of the georgia gemstones are achieved.
http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm



The david icke forums can be most enlightening for this kind of stuff.

Jimbeaux

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232 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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12gauge said:
Jimbeaux said:
That would be the Tsunami.....but close.
Well, the quake/Tsunami were induced by HAARP. The MOSSAD colluded to make Fukushima's systems shut down making a nuclear disaster inevitable.

Why - to render a significant portion of the northern hemisphere irradiated to the point of no longer supporting significant human population for the next 1000 years or so. Expect similar disasters over the coming years until the commands of the georgia gemstones are achieved.
http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm


The david icke forums can be most enlightening for this kind of stuff.
Are you joking here or do I have to list you in my Moon Hoaxer section?

12gauge

1,274 posts

175 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Jimbeaux said:
Are you joking here or do I have to list you in my Moon Hoaxer section?
Not really joking, but not 100% serious.

I do know nuclear meltdowns dont just 'happen', Tsunami or no tsunami.

Sonic

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208 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Pretty fascinating insight into the cutting edge of what a h4x0r can get up to these days which the right resources.

Some of the methods used are very clever and original, i like the bit which says it can still run on a full patched windows 7 machine... somebody has put quite a bit of effort into finding these exploits, and then kept very quiet about it.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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12gauge said:
Jimbeaux said:
Are you joking here or do I have to list you in my Moon Hoaxer section?
Not really joking, but not 100% serious.

I do know nuclear meltdowns dont just 'happen', Tsunami or no tsunami.
Meltdowns happen due to human error or non-intervention, which can surely be caused by a Tsunami.

easytiger123

2,598 posts

210 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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12gauge said:
Well, the quake/Tsunami were induced by HAARP. The MOSSAD colluded to make Fukushima's systems shut down making a nuclear disaster inevitable.

Why - to render a significant portion of the northern hemisphere irradiated to the point of no longer supporting significant human population for the next 1000 years or so. Expect similar disasters over the coming years until the commands of the georgia gemstones are achieved.
http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm



The david icke forums can be most enlightening for this kind of stuff.
What an utterly idiotic post

eldar

21,872 posts

197 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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hairykrishna said:
It's the virus that could have (did?) buggered up centrifuges used for uranium enrichment in Iran. Possibly Israeli/Mossad but nobody really knows. Nothing to do with Fukishima...
Targetted Siemens PLCs and Servo controllers. Persuaded the uranium enrichment centrifuges to indicate one speed while actually doing a slightly speed, delaying the enrichment by at least 12 months. Introduced by leaving loads of infected pendrives in hotel bars and cafes around the target plants.

Whoever wrote Stuxnet invested a lot of money in it, and it would appear got results. Rather more subtle that bombing the fk out of large concrete buildings.

Mossad? Possibly, but no proof of origin. Could be some pimply yoof in Skelmersdale having a laugh after allsmile

Marf

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242 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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12gauge said:
Jimbeaux said:
That would be the Tsunami.....but close.
Well, the quake/Tsunami were induced by HAARP. The MOSSAD colluded to make Fukushima's systems shut down making a nuclear disaster inevitable.

Why - to render a significant portion of the northern hemisphere irradiated to the point of no longer supporting significant human population for the next 1000 years or so. Expect similar disasters over the coming years until the commands of the georgia gemstones are achieved.
http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm



The david icke forums can be most enlightening for this kind of stuff.
Take your tinfoil nonsense and get, go on, scat!

0000

13,812 posts

192 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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eldar said:
Could be some pimply yoof in Skelmersdale having a laugh after allsmile
Yeah, and I might have knocked it up in my sleep, not likely!

Marf

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Tuesday 29th May 2012
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eldar said:
hairykrishna said:
Possibly Israeli/Mossad but nobody really knows.
Mossad? Possibly, but no proof of origin. Could be some pimply yoof in Skelmersdale having a laugh after allsmile
Various sources quote Israel’s vice prime minister as saying: "For anyone who sees the Iranian threat as significant, it is reasonable that he would take different steps, including these, in order to hobble it.”

Minister Moshe Yaalon added: "Israel is blessed with being a country which is technologically rich, and these tools open up all sorts of possibilities for us."

Total possibility that it's just big talk given the current situation, but who knows.

hornet

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251 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Sonic said:
Some of the methods used are very clever and original, i like the bit which says it can still run on a full patched windows 7 machine... somebody has put quite a bit of effort into finding these exploits, and then kept very quiet about it.
Does make you wonder if [insert secret agency of choice] has people inside Microsoft either a) looking for the exploits or b) making damn sure they exist for a period of time to provide the (ahem) window of opportunity.

Fascinating stuff.

Marf

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Saturday 9th June 2012
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Looks like someone is trying to cover their tracks

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18365844


McHaggis

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156 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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hairykrishna said:
It's the virus that could have (did?) buggered up centrifuges used for uranium enrichment in Iran. Possibly Israeli/Mossad but nobody really knows. Nothing to do with Fukishima...
On the contrary. Many people will know. They just aren't taking about it. But the scale of stuxnet and flame need nation state backing.

Marf

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Sunday 10th June 2012
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McHaggis said:
hairykrishna said:
It's the virus that could have (did?) buggered up centrifuges used for uranium enrichment in Iran. Possibly Israeli/Mossad but nobody really knows. Nothing to do with Fukishima...
On the contrary. Many people will know. They just aren't taking about it. But the scale of stuxnet and flame need nation state backing.
yes


http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/06/flame-cryp...

"The Flame espionage malware that infected computers in Iran achieved mathematic breakthroughs that could only have been accomplished by world-class cryptographers, two of the world's foremost cryptography experts said."