Jimmy Carr and his (no) tax

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Soovy

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35,829 posts

273 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Oh dear. I've always disliked him. Now it seems that despite lampooning Barclays for its tax schemes, he has one himself.

Hoist by one's own petard, Jimmy. Hypocritical little tosspot.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/9341117/Comedia...


Telegraph said:
Lawyers for the comedian have confirmed he is a member of K2, but categorically denied any wrongdoing, saying the scheme had been disclosed to the relevant authorities in line with the law.
Telegraph said:
Jimmy Carr, who performed at the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee celebrations, is a stand up comedian and is currently best known as the host of Channel 4’s 8 out of 10 Cats.

On the show Ten O'Clock Live he performed a sketch lampooning Barclays over its tax arrangements, and referred to "the world's biggest, most aggressive team of blood-hungry amoral tax lawyers."

johnfm

13,668 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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The biggest surprise is that comedians like Carr, Millican et al are making £millions a year from touring and television.

Good luck to them, but I was pretty amazed at the estimated earnings of some of them.

Eric Mc

122,335 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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"Stand Up" is the new "rock and roll".

And like rock stars, stand up comics can be just as hypocritical. I wonder did he use the same tax adviser as Bono?

Soovy

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35,829 posts

273 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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johnfm said:
The biggest surprise is that comedians like Carr, Millican et al are making £millions a year from touring and television.

Good luck to them, but I was pretty amazed at the estimated earnings of some of them.
DVD royalties and books etc make them a shedload of money. Millions. I believe that Peter Kay makes eight figures, easy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100092/Ri...



EDLT

15,421 posts

208 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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johnfm said:
The biggest surprise is that comedians like Carr, Millican et al are making £millions a year from touring and television.

Good luck to them, but I was pretty amazed at the estimated earnings of some of them.
Not that surprising, he sells a few DVDs every christmas. The real hypocrisy is if he was a banker Soovy would be defending him.

unrepentant

21,301 posts

258 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Small beer in tax avoidance terms compared to the likes of "Sir" Philip Green.

Gargamel

15,049 posts

263 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Why pick on Jimmy ?

Who are the other members of the K2 club ?

Clearly some of these loopholes need a little more noose tightening.

Perhaps some incentive to come back into the tax fold, spiderman towel ? Toaster ? 20% tax for five years ?


arfur sleep

1,166 posts

221 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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johnfm said:
The biggest surprise is that comedians like Carr, Millican et al are making £millions a year from touring and television.

Good luck to them, but I was pretty amazed at the estimated earnings of some of them.
Really? £20 a ticket (probably more) when they're on tour - 500 people a night absolute minimum = £10k per night takings plus merchandise. Chuck in a few arena shows where there's 10,000 people on the 50-70 date tour and it's big money.

Touring costs for a comedian are nothing like that of a band (limtied set, couple of roadies, driver, tour manager, flunkie maybe) so the margins must be pretty good.

ker-fking-ching as i'm sure Jimmy says whenever he sees his accountant...

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Eric Mc said:
"Stand Up" is the new "rock and roll".
It cost £30k for him to appear for 30 minutes at our Xmas do last year.

Bit of a diva he was too, wouldnt mingle before he went on, demanded the dining room be re-organised into rows of seats in front of the stage before he would perform and refused to mingle afterwards.

Big contrast to Ed Byrne the year before who happily had a few drinks with everyone, signed autographs, posed for photos etc.

Eric Mc

122,335 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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I think a lot of footballers have been using similar schemes.

Soovy

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Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Gargamel said:
Why pick on Jimmy ?
I think because of the fact that he has made a point of lampooning people who avoid paying their full share of tax while doing it himself, probly.

Bashing bankers for not paying tax sells DVDs, and makes him vast sums of money, which he then doesn't pay tax on. Hypocrite.








Gargamel

15,049 posts

263 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Soovy said:
I think because of the fact that he has made a point of lampooning people who avoid paying their full share of tax while doing it himself, probly.

Bashing bankers for not paying tax sells DVDs, and makes him vast sums of money, which he then doesn't pay tax on. Hypocrite.

Wasn't thinking of you as much as the way in which his name came out, clearly within the K2 club there will be people earning far more, and paying as little.

Agree the hypocrisy thing is not a good look, but I guess on the 10 o'clock live he just reads the stuff out. (Can't stand that show to much leftie crap from David Mitchell

Adrian W

14,071 posts

230 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Gargamel said:
Why pick on Jimmy ?
Because he's just not funny

wiggy001

6,545 posts

273 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Soovy said:
I think because of the fact that he has made a point of lampooning people who avoid paying their full share of tax while doing it himself, probly.

Bashing bankers for not paying tax sells DVDs, and makes him vast sums of money, which he then doesn't pay tax on. Hypocrite.
Do you really believe that every joke told by a comedian represents their own personal views and beliefs and isn't told just to get a laugh?


Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

281 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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successful entertainer makes lots of money and does something completely legal shocker.

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

177 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
successful entertainer makes lots of money and does something completely legal shocker.
But that's not the issue, it the fact that he was happily berating others for doing exactly what he knew full well he was doing.

Soovy

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Tuesday 19th June 2012
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KrazyIvan said:
Ayahuasca said:
successful entertainer makes lots of money and does something completely legal shocker.
But that's not the issue, it the fact that he was happily berating others for doing exactly what he knew full well he was doing.
Bingo.

Eric Mc

122,335 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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wiggy001 said:
Do you really believe that every joke told by a comedian represents their own personal views and beliefs and isn't told just to get a laugh?
In a way, yes.

Observational humour is usually based on the personal opinions of the person making those observations. Or at least, that is what they would like us, the audience of gullible mugs, to believe.

I've always thought Carr had an temptingly smackable face. This just makes me want to smack it harder.

Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

281 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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KrazyIvan said:
Ayahuasca said:
successful entertainer makes lots of money and does something completely legal shocker.
But that's not the issue, it the fact that he was happily berating others for doing exactly what he knew full well he was doing.
So you believe that all jokes should be based on fact?

Jimmy Carr said:
A big girl came up to me after a show once and said “I think you’re fatist.” I said “No, no. I think you’re fattest!”
Do you believe that that exchange really took place?


Jobbo

12,986 posts

266 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Gargamel said:
Why pick on Jimmy ?
In addition to the hypocrisy, the first line of the article is reason enough:

The Telegraph said:
The comedian is alleged to be the largest beneficiary of the K2 tax scheme