Karzai repeals women's rights to obtain votes

[CommanderJameson]

As pointed out by skwdenyer over in Speed, Plod & The Law, there's an article in the Guardian describing how Hamid Karzai, the spectacularly useless president of Afghanistan, has signed off legislation that basically reverts women to chattels of their husbands. Can't leave the house without permission. Can't refuse sex without a "reasonable excuse" (and I strongly doubt that "I'm watching Taliban Today, and I've got a headache" will count). Can't get a job or go to school without hubby's say-so.

Huh. Tin-pot pseudoleader in broken third-world nation signs off on fundamentalist Islamic legislation to obtain votes of influential clerics and their followers. Film at 11.

Only this particular broken third-world nation is one that my tax pounds are at play in; the president in question's tenuous grasp on power is only maintained by the presence of UK and other forces, and didn't we just fight a war to get rid of the Taliban?

Twat. As one of the Guardian readers (yes, I'll agree with anyone, me) pointed out, this is a law designed by men, for men. We should ship all the women and kids out and leave the fundamentalist gits to their own devices.

I'm perhaps out of step with current Government thinking, but I don't automatically respect a viewpoint simply because it exists. I don't give a crap about respecting the Shia views in Afghanistan, because they run counter to pretty much everything I consider to be right and proper.

Why are we supporting this idiot?

[voyds9]

Unfortunately I fear this may not be an April Fool.

[Jasandjules]

Why are we supporting this? I don't know. Should we be demanding it is changed? Yes, if they want our support (and the use of British Lives) to obtain freedom from religious oppression then it ought to remain that way.

[Marf]

CommanderJameson said:

Why are we supporting this idiot?

Because he is familiar with the intricacies of running gas pipelines?

[Fittster]

CommanderJameson said:

Why are we supporting this idiot?

Are you in favour of the country being used as a terrorist training camp?

[CommanderJameson]

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Why are we supporting this idiot?

Are you in favour of the country being used as a terrorist training camp?

Couldn't care less, to be honest. I'm firmly in the "terrorism as vastly overstated threat used to conceal more insidious agendas" tinfoil-hat-wearing school of thought.

[Fittster]

CommanderJameson said:

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Why are we supporting this idiot?

Are you in favour of the country being used as a terrorist training camp?

Couldn't care less, to be honest. I'm firmly in the "terrorism as vastly overstated threat used to conceal more insidious agendas" tinfoil-hat-wearing school of thought.

So 9/11 didn't happen?

[Marf]

CommanderJameson said:

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Why are we supporting this idiot?

Are you in favour of the country being used as a terrorist training camp?

Couldn't care less, to be honest. I'm firmly in the "terrorism as vastly overstated threat used to conceal more insidious agendas" tinfoil-hat-wearing school of thought.

Indeed, I'm far more likely to be run over by a bus than blown up on one.

[Cara Van Man]

CommanderJameson said:

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Why are we supporting this idiot?

Are you in favour of the country being used as a terrorist training camp?

Couldn't care less, to be honest. I'm firmly in the "terrorism as vastly overstated threat used to conceal more insidious agendas" tinfoil-hat-wearing school of thought.

That's good to know. It will be of massive consolation next time I'm over there, away from my family, whilst being involved in very real missions against insurgants, taliban and terrorists.

[mrmaggit]

Take care next time you're over there, and get one for me, would you?

[pugwash4x4]

Surely Its pointless telling other cultures what moral base they should use? they need to do decide that for themselves- in my experience people won't be Forced into a decision they don't want to make!

If Afghanis want o subjugate women then let them- eventually emancipation will happen naturally and effectively (although lets be honest it would be a hell of a lot easier if women weren't emancipated )

[crofty1984]

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Why are we supporting this idiot?

Are you in favour of the country being used as a terrorist training camp?

Couldn't care less, to be honest. I'm firmly in the "terrorism as vastly overstated threat used to conceal more insidious agendas" tinfoil-hat-wearing school of thought.

So 9/11 didn't happen?

Of course it did, the 9th of November happens every year. A few days after bonfire night.

[CommanderJameson]

Cara Van Man said:

CommanderJameson said:

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Why are we supporting this idiot?

Are you in favour of the country being used as a terrorist training camp?

Couldn't care less, to be honest. I'm firmly in the "terrorism as vastly overstated threat used to conceal more insidious agendas" tinfoil-hat-wearing school of thought.

That's good to know. It will be of massive consolation next time I'm over there, away from my family, whilst being involved in very real missions against insurgants, taliban and terrorists.

What's that got to do with my point?

[Bing o]

Cara Van Man said:

CommanderJameson said:

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Why are we supporting this idiot?

Are you in favour of the country being used as a terrorist training camp?

Couldn't care less, to be honest. I'm firmly in the "terrorism as vastly overstated threat used to conceal more insidious agendas" tinfoil-hat-wearing school of thought.

That's good to know. It will be of massive consolation next time I'm over there, away from my family, whilst being involved in very real missions against insurgants, taliban and terrorists.

Erm, you signed up for it, fighting people is kind of in the army job description is it not?

[BiggusLaddus]

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Why are we supporting this idiot?

Are you in favour of the country being used as a terrorist training camp?

Couldn't care less, to be honest. I'm firmly in the "terrorism as vastly overstated threat used to conceal more insidious agendas" tinfoil-hat-wearing school of thought.

So 9/11 didn't happen?

Yes, it was planned and executed by Saudi's, supported by the doctrine of Saudi wahhabism. When did we invade them?

[elster]

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Why are we supporting this idiot?

Are you in favour of the country being used as a terrorist training camp?

Couldn't care less, to be honest. I'm firmly in the "terrorism as vastly overstated threat used to conceal more insidious agendas" tinfoil-hat-wearing school of thought.

So 9/11 didn't happen?

What has that got to do with a terrorist training camp?

You could arrange that with half a dozen people, no training camp needed.

Can you list the vast array of terrorist acts that have ensued by the taliban?

Terrorism does work, as the media now can spin any event to last a lifetime. Enabling governments to take all your freedom away.

But hey, there will be industry in Afghan. Built by US contractors. Nothing like Iraq though....no wait just like Iraq.

The wars have nothing to do with terrorism, the terrorism is an excuse.

[Cara Van Man]

Bing o said:

Cara Van Man said:

CommanderJameson said:

Fittster said:

CommanderJameson said:

Why are we supporting this idiot?

Are you in favour of the country being used as a terrorist training camp?

Couldn't care less, to be honest.

That's good to know. It will be of massive consolation next time I'm over there, away from my family, whilst being involved in very real missions against insurgants, taliban and terrorists.

Erm, you signed up for it, fighting people is kind of in the army job description is it not?

Yes, but it's nice to know that people "couldn't care less" and have a total lack of awareness of what is going on out there.

The forces aren't just there for show or to cover up Jaqui Smiths latest faux pas, you do know that, yes?

[Marf]

Cara Van Man said:

The forces aren't just there for show or to cover up Jaqui Smiths latest faux pas, you do know that, yes?

No, you're out there to facilitate a resource grab of epic proportions whilst our government spins our presence there as bringing democracy to the savages.

Frankly our government had no business sending you and your colleagues to risk your lives in that god forsaken dust bowl.

I, and I suspect the other posters in this thread, have nothing against you or the forces in general, but instead have a problem with the lickspittle government who sent you out there in the first place.

[G_T]

Marf said:

Cara Van Man said:

The forces aren't just there for show or to cover up Jaqui Smiths latest faux pas, you do know that, yes?

No, you're out there to facilitate a resource grab of epic proportions whilst our government spins our presence there as bringing democracy to the savages.

Frankly our government had no business sending you and your colleagues to risk your lives in that god forsaken dust bowl.

I, and I suspect the other posters in this thread, have nothing against you or the forces in general, but instead have a problem with the lickspittle government who sent you out there in the first place.

+1.

[Funk Odyssey]

Marf said:

Cara Van Man said:

The forces aren't just there for show or to cover up Jaqui Smiths latest faux pas, you do know that, yes?

No, you're out there to facilitate a resource grab of epic proportions whilst our government spins our presence there as bringing democracy to the savages.

Frankly our government had no business sending you and your colleagues to risk your lives in that god forsaken dust bowl.

I, and I suspect the other posters in this thread, have nothing against you or the forces in general, but instead have a problem with the lickspittle government who sent you out there in the first place.

agreed