Real problem or just another Darwin award nominee?
Discussion
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8141696.stm
As terrible as it is I can't believe the step mother wants to boycott a whole bloody town because they have tall cliffs!
How hard is it to know a cliff has a big drop off the edge? How hard to stay away? You could reason that a fence would imply safety when the fundamental location is still highly risky (ie, how many would fall off the fence because they were sitting on it etc)
Makes me mad. Be an angry upset mother, but the worry I have is that these people actually get listened to and responded to!
Big drop, stay away. Safe.
Dave
As terrible as it is I can't believe the step mother wants to boycott a whole bloody town because they have tall cliffs!
How hard is it to know a cliff has a big drop off the edge? How hard to stay away? You could reason that a fence would imply safety when the fundamental location is still highly risky (ie, how many would fall off the fence because they were sitting on it etc)
Makes me mad. Be an angry upset mother, but the worry I have is that these people actually get listened to and responded to!
Big drop, stay away. Safe.
Dave
Mr Whippy said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8141696.stm
As terrible as it is I can't believe the step mother wants to boycott a whole bloody town because they have tall cliffs!
How hard is it to know a cliff has a big drop off the edge? How hard to stay away? You could reason that a fence would imply safety when the fundamental location is still highly risky (ie, how many would fall off the fence because they were sitting on it etc)
Makes me mad. Be an angry upset mother, but the worry I have is that these people actually get listened to and responded to!
Big drop, stay away. Safe.
Dave
This is not 'cliff error' or 'town error' but simple human error. Didn't the mother educate the boy to not go near the edge? Had he been drinking?As terrible as it is I can't believe the step mother wants to boycott a whole bloody town because they have tall cliffs!
How hard is it to know a cliff has a big drop off the edge? How hard to stay away? You could reason that a fence would imply safety when the fundamental location is still highly risky (ie, how many would fall off the fence because they were sitting on it etc)
Makes me mad. Be an angry upset mother, but the worry I have is that these people actually get listened to and responded to!
Big drop, stay away. Safe.
Dave
Poor sod, but bloody stupid sod.
When will people learn you cannot wrap your kids up in cotton wool. Nevermind that he was 16 and really should have known better.I know grieving people are irrational and losing a kid must be hard.
But why does our society always look for someone to blame?
How many thousand people go there every year and manage not to fall off the cliffs?
Some people just need to learn not to do stupid stuff the hard way, if we wrap everyone in cotton wool we will just live like zombies forever.
But why does our society always look for someone to blame?
How many thousand people go there every year and manage not to fall off the cliffs?
Some people just need to learn not to do stupid stuff the hard way, if we wrap everyone in cotton wool we will just live like zombies forever.
Tragic but...
He was drinking and probably messing about with his mates, he made a mistake, it killed him. We have all got up after drinking and thought what was I doing last night? that was really stupid. Most of us make it, some don't.
The mrs said there should have been a fence. I said thousands of people manage to not fall down the cliff (drunk or not) you can't protect people 100%.
He was drinking and probably messing about with his mates, he made a mistake, it killed him. We have all got up after drinking and thought what was I doing last night? that was really stupid. Most of us make it, some don't.
The mrs said there should have been a fence. I said thousands of people manage to not fall down the cliff (drunk or not) you can't protect people 100%.
Bullett said:
Tragic but...
He was drinking and probably messing about with his mates, he made a mistake, it killed him. We have all got up after drinking and thought what was I doing last night? that was really stupid. Most of us make it, some don't.
The mrs said there should have been a fence. I said thousands of people manage to not fall down the cliff (drunk or not) you can't protect people 100%.
Would a fence not impact the civil liberties of people wanting to jump off the cliff?He was drinking and probably messing about with his mates, he made a mistake, it killed him. We have all got up after drinking and thought what was I doing last night? that was really stupid. Most of us make it, some don't.
The mrs said there should have been a fence. I said thousands of people manage to not fall down the cliff (drunk or not) you can't protect people 100%.
stuttgartmetal said:
Its usually drink and swimming that kills the yoofs at the seaside.
In Blackpool there are plenty of drownings with drink involved, but the other cause is people jumping in to save their dogs. A couple of years ago a father drowned in front of his daughter when trying to save their dog. A couple of years before that 2 local teenagers drowned trying to save a dog, and then the worst being 1983 when a holiday maker went in to try to save his dog, and then 3 police officers went in to to try and save him. All four + the dog drowned.
k! I've mixed up my 'kerb' with my 'curb'.
Russ35 said:
stuttgartmetal said:
Its usually drink and swimming that kills the yoofs at the seaside.
In Blackpool there are plenty of drownings with drink involved, but the other cause is people jumping in to save their dogs. A couple of years ago a father drowned in front of his daughter when trying to save their dog. A couple of years before that 2 local teenagers drowned trying to save a dog, and then the worst being 1983 when a holiday maker went in to try to save his dog, and then 3 police officers went in to to try and save him. All four + the dog drowned.
I think the statistics are 90% of drownings of ages 17 to 35 involve alcohol.
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