Bring back Workhouses!

[dvs_dave]

After visiting the National Trust Workhouse in Southwell the other day and learning about the "poor law" and workhouse system, it struck me what a bloody good idea it is. I believe that a modern version should be brought back in to combat the career benefits underclass that has taken a hold of this country.

It would surely cost less overall than paying all these feckless and idle wasters benefits to do nothing whilst sat in a free house, their numerous offsping committing petty crimes and costing the NHS a fortune through their lifestyle induced ill health. I'm not saying all benefits people should go into a workhouse, but certainly those who show no inclination to better themselves, of which there seems to be a rapidly increasing number. It would certainly give them an incentive to get off their arses and contribute something back to society.

Can anyone think of a reason why a modernised version would not be good for the country, both economically and socially?

Edited by dvs_dave on Monday 26th April 10:21

[Puggit]

Cos it's against their rights, innit.

[Mazda Baiter]

Nope.

Next.

[Eric Mc]

Puggit said:

Cos it's against their rights, innit.

Not "their's", "YOURS"..

[rhinochopig]

Petit crimes - I hate it when people steal garden gnomes.

[KANEIT]

Good idea. I think more criminal punishments should be work related, send petty criminals down the sewers and higher level criminals down the coal mines.

[cazzer]

Keeps em fit and best of all, hook it to a genny......Green Energy, its a win win.

Edited by cazzer on Monday 26th April 10:17

[fido]

I like that. A sort of Matrix scheme where they can be hooked up to small generators, whilst dreaming about having more babies, their favourite junk food from Iceland, and watching Jeremy Kyle.

[zcacogp]

Quite a discussion about modern workhouses on PH here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

A very good idea, in my opinion.


Oli.

[P_J_R]

I've been saying that for years; and whilst we're at it, make everybody have an IQ test before being allowed to breed; no pass, no offspring. Sadly it's all too late, this country is fked.

[dilbert]

Is this some kind of "New Labour" campaign thread, or are you all just getting really desperate for work?

[Mazda Baiter]

P_J_R said:

I've been saying that for years; and whilst we're at it, make everybody have an IQ test before being allowed to breed; no pass, no offspring. Sadly it's all too late, this country is fked.

If you can prove that "IQ" (flawed as the test is) is more influenced by genetics than environment then I might agree with you.

On the other hand, a high "IQ" score does not make you a responsible parent... Which is where the problem lies, to which you are inferring.

[Eric Mc]

90% of people in 19th century workhouses had not committed any crimes.

What are people suggesting here - that new sttle workhouses are -

an alternative to jail for criminals?
a scheme for the unemployed?

What work do you give "unemployed" people?
Who "qualifies" to end up in a workhouse?
Do we make exceptions for those who are ill (mentally or physically)?
If so, how do we differentiate?

[Eric Mc]

Mazda Baiter said:

P_J_R said:

I've been saying that for years; and whilst we're at it, make everybody have an IQ test before being allowed to breed; no pass, no offspring. Sadly it's all too late, this country is fked.

If you can prove that "IQ" (flawed as the test is) is more influenced by genetics than environment then I might agree with you.

On the other hand, a high "IQ" score does not make you a responsible parent... Which is where the problem lies, to which you are inferring.

It's called Eugenics and was a favourite policy of the Nazis - which eventually led to the slaughter odf hundreds of thousands of innocent, defenceless people.

Great plan.

[rhinochopig]

Eric Mc said:

Mazda Baiter said:

P_J_R said:

I've been saying that for years; and whilst we're at it, make everybody have an IQ test before being allowed to breed; no pass, no offspring. Sadly it's all too late, this country is fked.

If you can prove that "IQ" (flawed as the test is) is more influenced by genetics than environment then I might agree with you.

On the other hand, a high "IQ" score does not make you a responsible parent... Which is where the problem lies, to which you are inferring.

It's called Eugenics and was a favourite policy of the Nazis - which eventually led to the slaughter odf hundreds of thousands of innocent, defenceless people.

Great plan.

And if you breed a society of super-beings, whose going to be happy cleaning the crapper?

A far better option is to test a persons parenting ability. We do this now if you want to adopt. Fail the assessment and you don't get a child. Pass and you do.

There's something wrong in a society that deems it important enough to do this for adoption but yet lets any old unsuitable scrote knock out 10 promising footballers in as many years. It's not about I.Q it's about how much you'll nurture the child.

[cazzer]

Eric Mc said:

Mazda Baiter said:

P_J_R said:

I've been saying that for years; and whilst we're at it, make everybody have an IQ test before being allowed to breed; no pass, no offspring. Sadly it's all too late, this country is fked.

If you can prove that "IQ" (flawed as the test is) is more influenced by genetics than environment then I might agree with you.

On the other hand, a high "IQ" score does not make you a responsible parent... Which is where the problem lies, to which you are inferring.

It's called Eugenics and was a favourite policy of the Nazis - which eventually led to the slaughter odf hundreds of thousands of innocent, defenceless people.

Great plan.

But the trains ran on time Eric

[Mazda Baiter]

rhinochopig said:

Eric Mc said:

Mazda Baiter said:

P_J_R said:

I've been saying that for years; and whilst we're at it, make everybody have an IQ test before being allowed to breed; no pass, no offspring. Sadly it's all too late, this country is fked.

If you can prove that "IQ" (flawed as the test is) is more influenced by genetics than environment then I might agree with you.

On the other hand, a high "IQ" score does not make you a responsible parent... Which is where the problem lies, to which you are inferring.

It's called Eugenics and was a favourite policy of the Nazis - which eventually led to the slaughter odf hundreds of thousands of innocent, defenceless people.

Great plan.

And if you breed a society of super-beings, whose going to be happy cleaning the crapper?

A far better option is to test a persons parenting ability. We do this now if you want to adopt. Fail the assessment and you don't get a child. Pass and you do.

There's something wrong in a society that deems it important enough to do this for adoption but yet lets any old unsuitable scrote knock out 10 promising footballers in as many years. It's not about I.Q it's about how much you'll nurture the child.

That was the point that I was making. It's a shame there isn't a sarcasm smiley on PH.

[Soovy]

A great idea this.

Bandy legged trollops who get pregnant at 16 should be denied council houses and put in secure accomodation like this. They should be put to work for food, and their children educated and brought up properly.

[DangerousMike]

yeah! and they can put it all on a TV channel or a programme on channel 4.

[rhinochopig]

Soovy said:

A great idea this.

Bandy legged trollops who get pregnant at 16 should be denied council houses and put in secure accomodation like this. They should be put to work for food, and their children educated and brought up properly.

A house full of bandy legged 16 year old trollops Where there's muck there's brass.