Proof that the bible is correct!
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And guess what, they will find it again next week.
Creationists are regularly "finding Noahs ark" and each time it's, obviously, bulls
t.
This made me laugh:
Gullible idiots.
Creationists are regularly "finding Noahs ark" and each time it's, obviously, bulls
t.This made me laugh:
creationistmorron said:
I was the archaeologist with the Chinese expedition in the summer of 2008 and was given photos of what they now are reporting to be the inside of the Ark. I and my partners invested $100,000 in this expedition (described below) which they have retained, despite their promise and our requests to return it, since it was not used for the expedition. The information given below is my opinion based on what I have seen and heard (from others who claim to have been eyewitnesses or know the exact details).
To make a long story short: this is all reported to be a fake. The photos were reputed to have been taken off site near the Black Sea, but the film footage the Chinese now have was shot on location on Mt. Ararat. In the late summer of 2008 ten Kurdish workers hired by Parasut, the guide used by the Chinese, are said to have planted large wood beams taken from an old structure in the Black Sea area (where the photos were originally taken) at the Mt. Ararat site. In the winter of 2008 a Chinese climber taken by Parasut’s men to the site saw the wood, but couldn’t get inside because of the severe weather conditions. During the summer of 2009 more wood was planted inside a cave at the site. The Chinese team went in the late summer of 2009 (I was there at the time and knew about the hoax) and was shown the cave with the wood and made their film. As I said, I have the photos of the inside of the so-called Ark (that show cobwebs in the corners of rafters – something just not possible in these conditions) and our Kurdish partner in Dogubabyazit (the village at the foot of Mt. Ararat) has all of the facts about the location, the men who planted the wood, and even the truck that transported it.
Silly Creationists being parted from his cash To make a long story short: this is all reported to be a fake. The photos were reputed to have been taken off site near the Black Sea, but the film footage the Chinese now have was shot on location on Mt. Ararat. In the late summer of 2008 ten Kurdish workers hired by Parasut, the guide used by the Chinese, are said to have planted large wood beams taken from an old structure in the Black Sea area (where the photos were originally taken) at the Mt. Ararat site. In the winter of 2008 a Chinese climber taken by Parasut’s men to the site saw the wood, but couldn’t get inside because of the severe weather conditions. During the summer of 2009 more wood was planted inside a cave at the site. The Chinese team went in the late summer of 2009 (I was there at the time and knew about the hoax) and was shown the cave with the wood and made their film. As I said, I have the photos of the inside of the so-called Ark (that show cobwebs in the corners of rafters – something just not possible in these conditions) and our Kurdish partner in Dogubabyazit (the village at the foot of Mt. Ararat) has all of the facts about the location, the men who planted the wood, and even the truck that transported it.
Gullible idiots.
Edited by him_over_there on Wednesday 28th April 23:10
qube_TA said:
Surely no-one, even creationists believe in the Ark story.
There are several interpretations of the Biblical story. That's before you count all the slight variations in the texts of other middle east religions.The true story went something like this:
A big flood in Iraq circa 2900BC
A local king ordered the shipping fleet to be lashed together to make one big boat
A local muscle man, Og of Bashan, helped
The king ordered the local farmers to gather breeding pairs of their animals
The animals went onto the Ark two by two
The Ark sailed around the Tigris and Euphrates plains until the waters subsided
It came to rest in place called arrarat (not Mount Arrarat, just a place called Arrarat)
So it is possible to find a perfectly rational Ark story.
qube_TA said:
Surely no-one, even creationists believe in the Ark story.
World imperilled by rapidly rising waters, happening because of decadent lifestyles? A few valiant souls do what they can to save the natural world in the face of mocking from the majority? Nah. No-one would ever believe that
LightningMcSteve said:
It's funny how they use Radio Carbon dating to try and prove the age of the wood, but think Radio Carbon dating is nonsense when it puts the Turin Shroud at between 1260 and 1390.
Watched a good documentary about that, they've proved that the bit cut off for RCD was a later repair. Unlucky, coz the church have locked it away now for a very long time!jshell said:
LightningMcSteve said:
It's funny how they use Radio Carbon dating to try and prove the age of the wood, but think Radio Carbon dating is nonsense when it puts the Turin Shroud at between 1260 and 1390.
Watched a good documentary about that, they've proved that the bit cut off for RCD was a later repair. Unlucky, coz the church have locked it away now for a very long time!Yup, the part of the shroud that the Church allowed them to destroy for carbon dating, which was therefore in the corner and away from anything important, was found out to be a very excellent repair from medieval times I believe.
Prak said:
qube_TA said:
Surely no-one, even creationists believe in the Ark story.
World imperilled by rapidly rising waters, happening because of decadent lifestyles? A few valiant souls do what they can to save the natural world in the face of mocking from the majority? Nah. No-one would ever believe that
king christ. Much easier.I'm not au fait with the bible but when Noah got off the boat after 1 whole year did he proclaim, "stone me God have I ever gotta do a lotta of tidying up and burning of this rotten, stinking, bloated mammalian corpses? Jeeesus and I thought building an Ark took a long time..there are several billion of them from what I can see."
And since God knows all tings at all times and stuff in the future how comes he didn't see this was happening and maybe tried to stop it with a few well chosen stern words.
If I'm honest I just don't understand this god business.
southendpier said:
So how comes God killed everyone and all things (except fish i guess) like that? Why didn't he just explode em from orbit then make the nicest ones come back alive 2 best people + the 2 best mules, 2 dog, 2 frog, 2 ant, 2 gnats...etc.etc.
Don't you watch QI the 2 bit is only for the "dirty" animals. 7 or so of all the important ones.....Edited by Jinx on Thursday 29th April 10:33
Jinx said:
southendpier said:
So how comes God killed everyone and all things (except fish i guess) like that? Why didn't he just explode em from orbit then make the nicest ones come back alive 2 best people + the 2 best mules, 2 dog, 2 frog, 2 ant, 2 gnats...etc.etc.
Don't you watch QI the 2 bit is only for the "dirty" animals. 7 or so of all the important ones.....Edited by Jinx on Thursday 29th April 10:33
Edited by southendpier on Thursday 29th April 11:43
him_over_there said:
qube_TA said:
Surely no-one, even creationists believe in the Ark story.
No, there are creationists who believe in tne ark story. Some even believe there were dinosaurs on the ark.Seriously the ark would've needed to be super tanker sized essel to accomodate a few thousand heads of animals and all the food and water they would need.
There's another point, what year was the solar still invented in? Where did all the drinking water for these animals come from? How was it stored? What happened when it went mouldy?
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