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Mojocvh

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16,837 posts

264 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11606492

"Marcus relies on £49.50 a week - the "mobility component" of the Disability Living Allowance - to travel beyond the vicinity of his Essex care home. Marcus Bradford worries he would not be able to visit his mother if his mobility allowance was cut But from October 2012, this will be axed for all care home residents.

He says without it, he will have just £18 a week left over from the benefits that pay for the home, and that barely covers his toiletries and clothing.
He says he won't be able to afford to visit his ailing 75-year-old mother 30 miles away, or to travel eight miles into nearby Clacton-on-Sea.

Some days, he already feels deeply depressed - "sometimes suicidal" - about his condition.

"We won't be able to do anything, we're going to be resigned to staying in the care home, 365 days a year," he says."


Ah well Marcus, never mind, in two years you might be DEAD.

What a nation of WIMPS we have become.

Mojooo

12,831 posts

182 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Bit of selective editing there...

Some of us don't actually mind contributing towards this kind of care - and in return if/when I end up in a carehome I will also be glad to get out once a week.

Should we just kill them off, clearly if they are suicidal they are costing us money AND not even enjoying life. What a disgrace eh?

supersingle

3,205 posts

221 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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He's clearly got enough to keep him in pies. rolleyes

Mojocvh

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16,837 posts

264 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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supersingle said:
He's clearly got enough to keep him in pies. rolleyes
And that IS the point. Even in two years time, he's not going to find himself turfed out into a cardboard box IS HE.


cymtriks

4,560 posts

247 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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How on Earth does anyone too poor to visit their own mother spend 72 quid a month on clothes and toiletries?

His mother has spent her entire adult life (born in 1935, age 16 in 1951, retired in 1995) in the most prosperous and peaceful period that this country has ever known. Perhaps she could pay to visit him or send him some money?

What we really need is a simple system of easy to claim benefits so that everyone knows where they stand. We gain nothing by forcing the vulnerable to jump through hoops to claim and limits could easily be put in place by capping, limiting eligibility or making payouts related to how much you've paid in.

Glocko

1,813 posts

251 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Mojocvh said:
Ah well Marcus, never mind, in two years you might be DEAD.

What a nation of WIMPS we have become.
You do realise that Stroke can affect anyone at anytime?
43 and in residential care for the rest of his life!
There but for the grace of God.
rolleyes

Mojocvh

Original Poster:

16,837 posts

264 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Glocko said:
Mojocvh said:
Ah well Marcus, never mind, in two years you might be DEAD.

What a nation of WIMPS we have become.
You do realise that Stroke can affect anyone at anytime?
43 and in residential care for the rest of his life!
There but for the grace of God.
rolleyes
"43 and in residential care for the rest of his life"

In that case he is one of the VERY FEW who have managed to secure full time care, even more reason for putting up and shutting up!!

It's about this continuing hand out me, me, me indoctrination that HAS to be broken.

Mojocvh

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16,837 posts

264 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Quinny said:
Mojocvh said:
supersingle said:
He's clearly got enough to keep him in pies. rolleyes
And that IS the point. Even in two years time, he's not going to find himself turfed out into a cardboard box IS HE.
I wonder if Marcus knows how to spell BENEFITSsmile
Oh you noticed.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

226 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Mojocvh said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11606492

"Marcus relies on £49.50 a week - the "mobility component" of the Disability Living Allowance - to travel beyond the vicinity of his Essex care home. Marcus Bradford worries he would not be able to visit his mother if his mobility allowance was cut But from October 2012, this will be axed for all care home residents.

He says without it, he will have just £18 a week left over from the benefits that pay for the home, and that barely covers his toiletries and clothing.
He says he won't be able to afford to visit his ailing 75-year-old mother 30 miles away, or to travel eight miles into nearby Clacton-on-Sea.

Some days, he already feels deeply depressed - "sometimes suicidal" - about his condition.

"We won't be able to do anything, we're going to be resigned to staying in the care home, 365 days a year," he says."


Ah well Marcus, never mind, in two years you might be DEAD.

What a nation of WIMPS we have become.
So hes paralysed on one side, apparantly cant work but can make long trips?. Hmmmm. Get him tested now!. I want that women with the 'spinal injury' to put the exact nature of what is wrong with her up on the net. X rays, and an independent experts opinion. Why are they're medical conditions so vague?. Actually I know why. If you want our money love, put up or shut up.

Mojooo

12,831 posts

182 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Get a grip, they are prving basic info to a new report. I gues their Drs have the full info

I guess Marcus must be using a mobility scooter to get on the bus.

Sticks.

8,860 posts

253 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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markcoznottz said:
I want that women with the 'spinal injury' to put the exact nature of what is wrong with her up on the net. X rays, and an independent experts opinion. Why are they're medical conditions so vague?. Actually I know why. If you want our money love, put up or shut up.
I suspect if you ask her she might tell you to feck off, as she'd rather continue to be seen by a doctor rather than have someone who thinks a spinal injury is vague judging her. If she's paid NI it's her money too.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

226 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Sticks. said:
markcoznottz said:
I want that women with the 'spinal injury' to put the exact nature of what is wrong with her up on the net. X rays, and an independent experts opinion. Why are they're medical conditions so vague?. Actually I know why. If you want our money love, put up or shut up.
I suspect if you ask her she might tell you to feck off, as she'd rather continue to be seen by a doctor rather than have someone who thinks a spinal injury is vague judging her. If she's paid NI it's her money too.
The very fact im posing the question would suggest most of us dont believe these claimants!. Why is it that people who live in areas of high welfare dependancy suddenly develop a tendency to use a stick or a mobility buggy?. It suggests that a lot of GPs have been complicit in signing off people who could work, although they cannot be blamed for the governmentel doctrine at that time.

Anyone with a specific alleged injury should be sent for expert opinion, not to her GP, a GP cannot diagnose the valididty of a spinal injury. Il judge all I like thanks, its my hard earned, for your information NI is not for benefit payment funding, (although thats a separate discussion), I wonder how much shes contibuted, maybe we should know.

Mojooo

12,831 posts

182 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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I am guessing if they are paralysed or have spinal problems then they have been to hospital and seen consultants.


Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

188 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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cymtriks said:
How on Earth does anyone too poor to visit their own mother spend 72 quid a month on clothes and toiletries?
That's about what I spend a year!

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

226 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Mojooo said:
I am guessing if they are paralysed or have spinal problems then they have been to hospital and seen consultants.
Or have they?. Depends how robust the panel who vetted her were, if she saw one. Or did GPs decide back in the day, effectively signing people off. We need to know.

Mojooo

12,831 posts

182 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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well marcus is in a care home, i would imagine that to get into a care home you have to have a recrded history of illness and I imagine the GPs word ain;t enough

who the hell would want to go into a care home if they didnt have to anyway? i think tis taking the benefits scrounge a tad too far..

Glocko

1,813 posts

251 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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He's had a fking stroke for christs sake!
I work on a stroke rehab unit and part of my job is recommending 24 hour care if a person can't be supported in their own home. Believe me, residential care is the absolute last option for a person whether you're 40 or 100.
Your ignorance and arrogance astounds me. Be lucky.
:lookup:

Sticks.

8,860 posts

253 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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markcoznottz said:
Mojooo said:
I am guessing if they are paralysed or have spinal problems then they have been to hospital and seen consultants.
Or have they?.
Guaranteed. GPs leave things like that to consultants.

Mojocvh

Original Poster:

16,837 posts

264 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Glocko said:
He's had a fking stroke for christs sake!
I work on a stroke rehab unit and part of my job is recommending 24 hour care if a person can't be supported in their own home. Believe me, residential care is the absolute last option for a person whether you're 40 or 100.
Your ignorance and arrogance astounds me. Be lucky.
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AGAIN. He's not being kicked out of his care home, he's having his pocket money reduced.

And he's complaining.

Well sorry Marcus, but there are a LOT of people who have NEVER been in the privileged position he has, they have their dementia and alzheimer's hidden away at home, see a care worker 3 times a day (if they are lucky), and have no social interaction either.

Glocko

1,813 posts

251 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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In what way is his position 'priviliged' exactly?