UN Workers 'Beheaded' In Afghan Koran Protest

[The real Apache]

Anyone else had enough of this st? why are our boys coming home in coffins? to protect these savages?!! these inbred neanderthal muslim retards went ape because of one blokes actions in a country a thousand times further than any of them have been on a camel, s

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[Godzuki]

Religon of peace, don't ya know. The pastor in the states needed to realise the consequences of his actions, (rightly, or wrongly burning a Qu'ran will get the nutters angry... Look at the cartoon fiasco). but it also shows that the point he was maing was somewhat right. Fort all the moderates saying it is a religion of peace, the cartoon fiasco, Rushdie, 9/11, 7/7, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Saudi all seem to prove otherwise.

[Victor McDade]

The real Apache said:

Anyone else had enough of this st? why are our boys coming home in coffins? to protect these savages?!! these inbred neanderthal muslim retards went ape because of one blokes actions in a country a thousand times further than any of them have been on a camel, s

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Video-...

No one is in Afghanistan to 'protect these savages'.

We're there to protect our (or America's) own national interest. Whether you believe this or not is another matter altogether. But the whole we're there to fight for the rights of average Afghans is complete bullst.

[andy_s]

To my mind 'Pastor' Jones is equally retarded. Christianity with all it's violence over the centuries is no better really, while we're tarring everyone with the same brush.

RIP

[The real Apache]

Religion of peace my arse, never, since the Crusades, has a religion been the cause of so much ignorance and blood shed.....maybe I'm a little pissed off with my fellow human after seeing on the news a 14 year old school girl stabbed in the head and neck outside her school and some ignorant mother killing her kid by making him drink bleach but I feel enough is enough. Violent people deserve all they get

[The real Apache]

Victor McDade said:

The real Apache said:

Anyone else had enough of this st? why are our boys coming home in coffins? to protect these savages?!! these inbred neanderthal muslim retards went ape because of one blokes actions in a country a thousand times further than any of them have been on a camel, s

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Video-...

No one is in Afghanistan to 'protect these savages'.

We're there to protect our (or America's) own national interest. Whether you believe this or not is another matter altogether. But the whole we're there to fight for the rights of average Afghans is complete bullst.

To be fair the reasons for us being there range from protecting our power supplies to maintaining a presence near Pakistan....so I tend to agree with you in the main

[Victor McDade]

The real Apache said:

To be fair the reasons for us being there range from protecting our power supplies to maintaining a presence near Pakistan....so I tend to agree with you in the main

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. There is definitely an ideological undertone to what many violent extremists are doing in that part of the world. Some say it's a perverted interpretation of the Koran and others say it's just the Islamic scriptures themselves.

I think Muslim scholars need to take a good hard look at themselves and 'evolve' like Christians did several hundred years ago. Practices X, Y and Z may have been appropriate 1400 years ago but they certainly are not now.

[DJC]

Ahh.
Ghurkas were killed on duty guarding outside the gates.


"We were a peaceful protest! We tried to take away the guns of the guards so that there would be no violence. They did not give them up, then they started firing on us!"

That was never going to end well.

[cal72]

Why the fk was some fking retarded PASTOR allowed in there anyway.
Has nobody learnt from the Zulu days.

[rich1231]

cal72 said:

Why the fk was some fking retarded PASTOR allowed in there anyway.
Has nobody learnt from the Zulu days.

Are you an idiot?

[carmonk]

Victor McDade said:

The real Apache said:

To be fair the reasons for us being there range from protecting our power supplies to maintaining a presence near Pakistan....so I tend to agree with you in the main

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. There is definitely an ideological undertone to what many violent extremists are doing in that part of the world. Some say it's a perverted interpretation of the Koran and others say it's just the Islamic scriptures themselves.

I think Muslim scholars need to take a good hard look at themselves and 'evolve' like Christians did several hundred years ago.

Some Christians. Many fundamentalist Christians in the American Bible Belt would sever heads in an instant if they thought they could get away with it. It's true that Islam is an inherently violent and intolerant religion, but overall its corrupting, regressive and damaging nature is far from unique.

[andy_s]

...and, like Christianity, Islam has been hijacked by people who are more bent on their own violent agendas than any peaceful notion of the real religion. The religion is a vessel or trojan horse, the agendas are man-made.

It has to be said that yes, some of the arabic countries are living in the 1400's still, and so is their dependence on religion and the importance it plays in their daily lives. Equally it's got to be said that I've lived in arabic countries for the past 12 years, and it is, like always, the 1% that cause the problems for the normal, wife, kids, daily bread man on the street.

[DJC]

Chaps, before we go too far down the "Islam is violent" path, a little history research might be in order. Historically Islam has been far more tolerent than Christianity. There is a large amount of irony in the current calls for Jihad, invoking the spirit Mehmed II and Suleiman, in that Mehmed and Suleiman were both very tolerant and enlightened rulers, esp. towards their conquered Christian citizens. What was regarded as blatent heresy in the Christian religion was accepted, you could practice whatever version of Christianity you liked and basically Christians under their rule had a damn site better time of it than under any of the normal Popes and Western dudes.

[The real Apache]

The clue is in the word DJ, history. Far be it for me to defend any religion but christianity has evolved, hell, they even have female Pastors but our muslim friends seem unable to.

[Godzuki]

I don't think anyone is ignorant os Christian history, however we are talking about the here and now,. and these fktards whose religion isn't even strong enough to take either criticism, etc, without killing people. It's fking pathetic, quite frankly. Killing people because some paper was burnt. It is this very predictable launching into action that puts the 'Religion of Peace' into the pigeonhole of 'aholes', nothing more.

Go and burn a Bible, and frankly no-one would bat a eyelid. At the most you'd get some unhappy god-botherer with a placard, and that would be it.

[carmonk]

DJC said:

Chaps, before we go too far down the "Islam is violent" path, a little history research might be in order.

Done to death on the Poppys thread, and nobody managed to provide any evidence that Islam did not promote violence. Indeed, the opposite was true and new intolerances sprang up every few pages.

[andy_s]

I don't think you can generalise like that really. It isn't a violent religion, it's the men behind it that are the violent ones, as I said above, the religion is a red herring.

We are more enlightened, so we should be more enlightened than to generalise in such an unsophisticated way. I listen to rednecks spouting this sort of stuff all the time, and just put it down to ignorance. We do understand better, so let's blame the real culprits which are those that subvert any social engineering construct (whether it be fascism, communism, radicalism, christianity, islam, etc) for their own ends.

That's the real problem, and always has been.

[carmonk]

andy_s said:

I don't think you can generalise like that really. It isn't a violent religion, it's the men behind it that are the violent ones, as I said above, the religion is a red herring.

Where do you think the religion came from in the first place? God? No, men. So you're right, it's the men behind it who make Islam what it is.

andy_s said:

We are more enlightened, so we should be more enlightened than to generalise in such an unsophisticated way. I listen to rednecks spouting this sort of stuff all the time, and just put it down to ignorance. We do understand better, so let's blame the real culprits which are those that subvert any social engineering construct (whether it be fascism, communism, radicalism, christianity, islam, etc) for their own ends.

No offence, but you need to do some research.

[The real Apache]

andy_s said:

I don't think you can generalise like that really. It isn't a violent religion, it's the men behind it that are the violent ones, as I said above, the religion is a red herring.

We are more enlightened, so we should be more enlightened than to generalise in such an unsophisticated way. I listen to rednecks spouting this sort of stuff all the time, and just put it down to ignorance. We do understand better, so let's blame the real culprits which are those that subvert any social engineering construct (whether it be fascism, communism, radicalism, christianity, islam, etc) for their own ends.

That's the real problem, and always has been.

sorry, I'm all out of enlightenment

[Godzuki]

andy_s said:

I don't think you can generalise like that really. It isn't a violent religion, it's the men behind it that are the violent ones, as I said above, the religion is a red herring.

I don't think it is generalising, and I don;t think anyone is saying that all Muslims are like this. However, when you hear on the TV that a suicide bomb has gone off, or a bus has been blown up, or that a IED has gone off, or anything like that, you can, on the whole, tell what religion is is going to be. During the cartoon crisis, if it was a Christian cartoon, do you think there would have been deaths? Do you think embassies would have been burned to the ground? Do you think high ranking Church leaders would have happily issued death threats?