Would AV change how you vote?

[thinfourth2]

Assuming that AV does make it past the referedum would it change how you vote?

As you now have more then one vote if you vote carefully or will you carry on to vote tory.

This is not to say wether AV is good or bad there is already a thread about that

[Tsippy]

Only change for me would be that the Tories might go down as a second choice (unless they drastically change their stance on a few areas in which case they'd be first)

[Dixie68]

thinfourth2 said:

Assuming that AV does make it past the referedum would it change how you vote?

As you now have more then one vote if you vote carefully or will you carry on to vote tory.

This is not to say wether AV is good or bad there is already a thread about that

Why do you assume I'd vote Tory? I did the last time because the party I'd originally voted for was dry-humping my country and needed to be got rid of. Anyone who votes for a party because of the colour of their tie should have the right to vote removed immediately.
If the Tories do a good job then I'll vote for them again, but if another party comes up with the goods they'll get my vote.

[thinfourth2]

Dixie68 said:

Why do you assume I'd vote Tory?

This is PH you can vote tory or EVIL SOCIALIST LABOUR PARTY there are no other options

Dixie68 said:

I did the last time because the party I'd originally voted for was dry-humping my country and needed to be got rid of. Anyone who votes for a party because of the colour of their tie should have the right to vote removed immediately.
If the Tories do a good job then I'll vote for them again, but if another party comes up with the goods they'll get my vote.

So you voted tory but didn't feel they were the best option

So who would you vote under AV

[thinfourth2]

Tsippy said:

Only change for me would be that the Tories might go down as a second choice (unless they drastically change their stance on a few areas in which case they'd be first)

AV would not change my first vote as i already voted for who i felt represented my views the best but i might put blue ties down as 3rd pref with a minor party first and second

[mph1977]

thinfourth2 said:

So you voted tory but didn't feel they were the best option

So who would you vote under AV

UKIP ? or Lib Dem ?

the interesting thing will be the effective abolition of safe seats ... when suddenly the next nearest competitor to the incumbent party starts to pick up 2nd/ 3rd / 4th choices ... Marginals will become even more unpredicatable

the no2av campaign seems to be more concerned with smearing Clegg and pointing out that because the BNP got a euro seat or two under the 'party list' joke system in the Euros ... AV or STV is likely to make the current parliament seem like the norm rather than the wild swings to and fro between Liarbore and the Cons

[RemainAllHoof]

I don't see how AV would help. Maybe UKIP might get a few more votes? Who is going to put a 1 by Tory then put a 2 by Labour or vice versa? Libdems are dead in the water.

[fergywales]

RemainAllHoof said:

I don't see how AV would help. Maybe UKIP might get a few more votes? Who is going to put a 1 by Tory then put a 2 by Labour or vice versa? Libdems are dead in the water.

This is how I see it. Agree RE: Lib Dems

[thinfourth2]

RemainAllHoof said:

I don't see how AV would help. Maybe UKIP might get a few more votes? Who is going to put a 1 by Tory then put a 2 by Labour or vice versa? Libdems are dead in the water.

I don't think anyone will put tory 1 labour 2 unless epically stupid.

However how many folk voted Tory just to get rid of brown?

How many voted bLair to get rid of thatcher?*

Under AV you can vote for UKIP No1 and then vote blue tie No2 to get rid of red tie

*(yes i know it was Major but don't forget how thick folk are)

[mph1977]

RemainAllHoof said:

I don't see how AV would help. Maybe UKIP might get a few more votes? Who is going to put a 1 by Tory then put a 2 by Labour or vice versa? Libdems are dead in the water.

much more likely to be ( in the above scenario of the tory voter)

Con or ukip 1

ukip or con 2

lib dems or greens 3

greens or lib dems 4

which puts UKIP / Lib Dems / Green much more in the picture and perhaps people who feel obliged to vote Con or liarbore to make sure the other one doesn't get itn might vote on the basis of their actual beliefs

[Puggit]

I've already given up on the major parties - so it wouldn't change the way I vote.

[thinfourth2]

Those voting NO

Is it because you would choose a major party as No1?

[AJI]

It would change the way I vote as I'd end up invalidating the voting slip. I will only vote for the party I want to see in power, I really can't see the point of me voting in any form for a party that I don't want to see in power.
So my voting slip would only have one vote. And I'm guessing in a AV election this would invalidate the voting slip.

[Stevenj214]

mph1977 said:

liarbore

Is this really necessary?

[Caulkhead]

It won't make a jot of difference even if adopted. The vast majority will just put an X next to the candidate they want and ignore all the others as they are entitled to do.

Of course it might have slightly more effect in Jockland where the choice is between the Anti-English Party (SNP) and Scottish (we're nothing to do with English <spit!> Labour, honest) Labour. The seething Jock independence fora seem to think it will disadvantage the SNP, which possibly explains Milibore's sudden conversion to the pro side. Let's hope it fails, anything that lessens the chance of Scotch independence must be avoided at all costs!

[Stevenj214]

thinfourth2 said:

Assuming that AV does make it past the referedum would it change how you vote?

Labour have a clear margin in my constituency (if their voters last time placed them all 1st, they would win outright in Round 1). Last election I voted SNP. Under AV I would probably have ranked every party other than Labour.

[otherman]

I think you'll get a lot less tactical voting and therefore it could have quite a big effect. You no longer have to think, I support A but they won't get in so I'll vote B. Now you can just put A first and B second.

What happens if we've all been voting B when we really want A?

[Halb]

thinfourth2 said:

Dixie68 said:

Why do you assume I'd vote Tory?

This is PH you can vote tory or EVIL SOCIALIST LABOUR PARTY there are no other options

Indeed.

[Tsippy]

thinfourth2 said:

Tsippy said:

Only change for me would be that the Tories might go down as a second choice (unless they drastically change their stance on a few areas in which case they'd be first)

AV would not change my first vote as i already voted for who i felt represented my views the best but i might put blue ties down as 3rd pref with a minor party first and second

Sorry, I worded that badly! At the moment I will not vote Tory due to their views on several key issues, but under AV I'd consider putting them as a second choice.

I voted for a smaller party last time

[F93]

The stupid thing is is that the version of AV they'll give us (should it win) won't be compulsory (thus, if many people don't like it already, then bye-bye more than 30% turnout in general elections). And, it won't force you to put down more than one candidate.

So, you can, essentially, put down 1 first preference and leave the voting booth and it will still count.

Showing JUST how pointless AV is. Either go the whole hog to PR or ps off.