Two horses put down at the Grand National

Two horses put down at the Grand National

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finbarcorky

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24,741 posts

267 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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I'm not a fan of jump racing especially when it injures horses. It's all very well saying "It's the kindest thing to do" but the fact is if they didn't race they wouldn't have got injured. frown
Horses hardly ever fall jumping unless they have a jockey onboard to unsettle them.

Who cares about the jockeys, they can be fixed and it's their choice.

I'm not even sure about flat racing but I know a lot of work riders and head lads and they do care about the horses welfare.

Anyway. Just wanted to vent. smile


petemurphy

10,137 posts

184 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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dont understand why someone isnt prosecuted for it

Defcon5

6,193 posts

192 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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I cant understand why they have to kill them. If their dog broke is leg they would get it fixed.

CatJ

9,586 posts

244 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Defcon5 said:
I cant understand why they have to kill them. If their dog broke is leg they would get it fixed.
It's that you can't set a broken horse leg.

petemurphy

10,137 posts

184 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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CatJ said:
It's that you can't set a broken horse leg.
cant they have a big wheel like some dogs do..

N Dentressangle

3,442 posts

223 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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CatJ said:
It's that you can't set a broken horse leg.
...well enough for the horse to be a race winner again, is the rest of that sentence.

Owners prefer for the horse to be put down: that way they collect the insurance payout on the horse, with no further costs. This is according to the Cheltenham racecourse doctor, who attends to the jockeys.

Defcon5

6,193 posts

192 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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CatJ said:
It's that you can't set a broken horse leg.
Really? How come?

GG89

3,527 posts

187 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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It isn't a dog though it's a very heavy very large animal that's bred for running it's not going to stay still to allow healing. Plus the costs of rehab and treatment are huge.

finbarcorky

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24,741 posts

267 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Horses cannot be subdued like small animals can and they don't respond in the same way as dogs and cats do when anaesthetised.
They also are at risk of hypothermia if sedated, partly because they've just run like fk and their body doesn't respond well to just lying down. They also need to "warm down" which is why they trot after a race, much like you humans do, and they get coverered up and watered down.

Also, once a horse has had a serious injury like that it's racing career is over and if it's not used to stud it's a drain on resources. Especially now hypobaric chambers future use in in question.

CatJ

9,586 posts

244 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Ok let me expand a little further.

Horses are put down mainly due to quality of life issue for the injured horse, a broken leg can take months to heal. There can be other complications, including loss of circulation in the leg, also if a sling is used sores and inflammation can occur.

Cost also plays a part.

Mubby

1,237 posts

183 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Just read elsewhere that 38 horses have died or been PTS since year 2000, including 5 last year, 2 during race and 3 PTS, eeek...


Edited by Mubby on Saturday 14th April 18:41

Hoonabator

578 posts

227 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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It's about time this race was consigned to history.

Whole thing is a joke.






GG89

3,527 posts

187 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Hoonabator said:
It's about time this race was consigned to history.

Whole thing is a joke.
I personally would not miss horse racing one bit in favour of these animals well being.

Light n Hairy

529 posts

188 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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I dont know about any of it. Racing is a big industry, a curious addiction, and there are risks which have to be managed, and rewards which seem to indulge something of what it is to be human and faulty, loving the excitement of fierce competition, of mans power over beast, insert other lazy pseudophilosophy here. So a horse or two dies. Meh. Feeds the french!

Simpo Two

85,757 posts

266 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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OK, so we ban all horse racing because 38 horses have died in 12 years (3 a year from a total of how many?)

R300will

3,799 posts

152 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Unfortunately cost plays a rather large part in it.

finbarcorky

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24,741 posts

267 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Simpo Two said:
OK, so we ban all horse racing because 38 horses have died in 12 years (3 a year from a total of how many?)
38 in the Grand National since 2000.

There's about 160 horse deaths a year in racing.
http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/ (nice web address!)

I'm pretty sure compared to other animal sports, greyhound, polo, that's abnormally high.

tr7v8

7,204 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Hoonabator said:
It's about time this race was consigned to history.

Whole thing is a joke.
yes

Zaxxon

4,057 posts

161 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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GG89 said:
I personally would not miss horse racing one bit in favour of these animals well being.
These animals wouldn't exist if races were banned.

Jasandjules

70,009 posts

230 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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The horses want to run. That's not to say that there is any reason why the fences can not be much lower so they don't actually get badly injured!!