someone has killed the neighbours cat

someone has killed the neighbours cat

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crackthatoff

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3,312 posts

215 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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And the kids are totally distraught, It has just turned a year old and was found in the garden of the suspected poisoner who has tried to injure the cat before.... there are lots of cats, dog walkers and children always around.... could the r.s.p.c.a do a post-mortem to see if this is the case.
We ( the neighbourhood) need to know before another cat, child or animal falls ill if this is the case..... I'm not trying to incite a witch hunt, but this sort of thing cannot be allowed and is extremely dangerous.

Sheets Tabuer

19,167 posts

217 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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You can get all sorts of tests if you pay.

Why is the person suspected of being a poisoner?

Even if the results come back as positive do you have any witnesses to the act?

Digger

14,798 posts

193 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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How did the suspect attempt to injure the cat previously?

crackthatoff

Original Poster:

3,312 posts

215 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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It's not the person, just the act... not bothered who, more if ! .... So we can be aware and keep our animals etc safe, I wouldn't want my dog to eat a poisoned bit of meat whilst out walking !

Jasandjules

70,037 posts

231 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Frankly I'd be going to have a word with the person you suspect. And does the owner want the cat back? And I'd be inclined to be speaking to the police about this as well and informing the person you suspect that the police will be notified - see what their face/eyes tell you!!

crackthatoff

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3,312 posts

215 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Digger said:
How did the suspect attempt to injure the cat previously?

scalding hot cups of water (witnessed) and threats... from an 70 year old grouch... like I said there would be no witch hunt... the sight of the rspca van would probably be enough

Jasandjules

70,037 posts

231 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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crackthatoff said:

scalding hot cups of water (witnessed) and threats... from an 70 year old grouch... like I said there would be no witch hunt... the sight of the rspca van would probably be enough
Report that to the police and RSPCA NOW.

-Pete-

2,903 posts

178 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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My ex neighbour shot and killed our cat with an air weapon. He was a nasty piece of work, and it wasn't his first firearms offence. It turned out he had a running battle with the previous owner of our house, over a period of 15 years he did everything he could to make their lives hell... And unsurprisingly they didn't mention it in the solicitor's questions.

AFAIK it's not a criminal offence to kill a cat, and whilst the RSPCA would no doubt help prosecute him in a civil case, based on what I knew about him he would have terrorised my family. So a potential fine of up to £5000 and hatred and criminal damage in the future. We thought about moving, but fortunately he did first.

The problem with neighbours is you have to live near them. If I were powerfully built and knew his sons/friends weren't, I would involve the RSPCA and confront the old man. But be prepared for a life of hell if you're wrong. Sorry.

Wigeon Incognito

3,271 posts

220 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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The RSPCA will happily get involved but it'll start with a look around said suspects house, garden, and outbuildings for any signs of poison etc and if none are found a stern warning is as much as you can hope for. A post mortem is unlikely simply due to cost - a basic post mortem of a cat might reach £400-£500 pounds, a post mortem with full report from a reputable expert costs circa £1000. That's an awful lot of money for a charity to spend on a suspicion.

If a series of such deaths have occurred then Natural England may be able to assist, they investigate poisoning and contravention of related acts on a day to day basis.

Mubby

1,237 posts

184 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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oh how terrible frown poor cat

otolith

56,858 posts

206 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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-Pete- said:
AFAIK it's not a criminal offence to kill a cat, and whilst the RSPCA would no doubt help prosecute him in a civil case, based on what I knew about him he would have terrorised my family. .
It certainly is a criminal offence if the cat has an owner - it is criminal damage, quite apart from any charges of animal cruelty.

Wigeon Incognito

3,271 posts

220 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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otolith said:
-Pete- said:
AFAIK it's not a criminal offence to kill a cat, and whilst the RSPCA would no doubt help prosecute him in a civil case, based on what I knew about him he would have terrorised my family. .
It certainly is a criminal offence if the cat has an owner - it is criminal damage, quite apart from any charges of animal cruelty.
Didn't spot this but basically in this case if the cat was caused unnecessary suffering then yes it is a criminal offence.

otolith

56,858 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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Even if the killing was humane, there is still the matter of criminal damage. Proving it is another matter.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

229 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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Jasandjules said:
Report that to the police and RSPCA NOW.
yes

...and local animal right vigilantes too.

crackthatoff

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3,312 posts

215 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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They just need to find out the truth, but theres no way they could afford a private investigation... looks like it is going to get swept under the carpet so to speak frown

Jasandjules

70,037 posts

231 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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otolith said:
It certainly is a criminal offence if the cat has an owner - it is criminal damage, quite apart from any charges of animal cruelty.
And a civil suit on top of that. I'd certainly be doing everything I could to make that person's life a misery (to put it mildly)

-Pete-

2,903 posts

178 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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I stand corrected, but I was told it's not something the police are going to get involved in. IF there is evidence that this old man did it, and I say IF because it's very easy to jump to conclusions, then I hope he gets what he deserves.

otolith

56,858 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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If I knew - really knew for sure - that someone had killed one of mine, and I couldn't get them prosecuted, I'm afraid I would find a way to get even.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

229 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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-Pete- said:
I hope he gets what he deserves.
Eaten alive by mice following a stroke?

-Pete-

2,903 posts

178 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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fluffnik said:
-Pete- said:
I hope he gets what he deserves.
Eaten alive by mice following a stroke?
That'd do nicely.