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AJI

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5,180 posts

219 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Thinking about a trip out to Australia next year, probably October/November time before it starts to get too hot.
My initial plan is to spend a few days in Sydney, Melbourne and then Adelaide, have any of you guys been there?

This trip is also to serve as a prospective plan to gaining knowledge on possibly living in one of these cities in the future. So I guess I'm looking to be able to spend enough time in each of these cities to get a feel for the 'way of life'.
So what I'd like to know is how many days would be best to spend at each location to take in the 'vibe'/'feel' of the city?


schmalex

13,616 posts

208 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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I've spent a fair amount of time in Sydney & Melbourne (none in Adelaide, though).

To get a reasonable feel for Sydney, I would suggest 4 - 5 days, as there is quite a lot to see if you want to get up to the Northern beaches etc, as well as just seeing the CBD / downtown. for staying in Sydney, I always aimed for as close to Circular Quay as possible, although the Marriott at Pitt St is hugely expensive for what it was, so I often ended up staying at the Sofitel on Maquarie St. It's often worth looking at last minute sites for hotels there, as they are HUGELY expensive.

I would give 3 days to Melbourne. The city centre is much more attractive, but for me, I much, much prefered Sydney.

ETA. Every time I went back to Aus (pretty much 3 out of every 6 weeks), I spent at least 10 days in Sydney & still came across new places (even if some of them were like Croydon in the sun - Paramatta...!).

Edited by schmalex on Tuesday 2nd October 14:00

Rosscow

8,798 posts

165 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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I enjoyed the relatively calm lifestyle and seclusion of Perth over Sydney and Melbourne.

A lovely city, not too big and not too small. Some cracking scenery in WA, too.

Timja

1,926 posts

211 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Make sure you drive the Great Ocean Road between Melbourne and Adelaide - Awesome road! - Watch out for the speed traps though!

schmalex

13,616 posts

208 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Reminds me. Watch out for the speed cameras everywhere. Their limits are 110k IIRC and they police them to pretty much that (maybe you can push it to 114 or so if you're feeling brave).

Kneetrembler

2,069 posts

204 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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schmalex said:
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sydney & Melbourne (none in Adelaide, though).

To get a reasonable feel for Sydney, I would suggest 4 - 5 days, as there is quite a lot to see if you want to get up to the Northern beaches etc, as well as just seeing the CBD / downtown. for staying in Sydney, I always aimed for as close to Circular Quay as possible, although the Marriott at Pitt St is hugely expensive for what it was, so I often ended up staying at the Sofitel on Maquarie St. It's often worth looking at last minute sites for hotels there, as they are HUGELY expensive.

I would give 3 days to Melbourne. The city centre is much more attractive, but for me, I much, much prefered Sydney.

ETA. Every time I went back to Aus (pretty much 3 out of every 6 weeks), I spent at least 10 days in Sydney & still came across new places (even if some of them were like Croydon in the sun - Paramatta...!).

Edited by schmalex on Tuesday 2nd October 14:00
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AJI

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5,180 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Thanks for the replies.

Am I correct in saying that Australian cities are probably among the safest in the world in terms of crime and healthy living?

The only city daring to raise its head onto the radar being Sydney?
(Somebody told me that western areas of Sydney can have crime issues, gangs, etc.)


marcosgt

11,033 posts

178 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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100KMH? That's the maximum?

What's the point of Holden Commodores then?

M.

schmalex

13,616 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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The NT is point of Commodores - most of the roads are unlimited. Although, most of the roads are not metalled, so you can't go THAT quickly anyway!

I used to hire an HSV GTS (VXR8) when I was over there. It sounded lovely, but was utterly pointless, as you could never use the grunt!

The drive from Sydney to Canberra is about 3 1/2 - 4 hours of sitting on a dual carriageway with the excitement of 3 corners and 1 junction along the whole route!!!

Mr Roper

13,021 posts

196 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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AJI said:
Thanks for the replies.


The only city daring to raise its head onto the radar being Sydney?
(Somebody told me that western areas of Sydney can have crime issues, gangs, etc.)
I spent a year in Sydney back in '97. At one point I was living in Kings Cross during the time of the axe wielding backpacker attacker. This is no joke, a guy was literally going about his night with an axe looking to bump backpackers on the head with it.

If he's gone, then your safe.




chris7676

2,685 posts

222 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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AJI said:
Thanks for the replies.

Am I correct in saying that Australian cities are probably among the safest in the world in terms of crime and healthy living?

The only city daring to raise its head onto the radar being Sydney?
(Somebody told me that western areas of Sydney can have crime issues, gangs, etc.)
I haven't been but my friend went - He was so eager to go based on his experience of Australians in the UK / London. But having gone he had lots of bad experience (mostly Sydney) - unfriendly rude people, then being assaulted on a night out.

Hub

6,453 posts

200 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Adelaide is a bit boring - there are some nice pubs, but overall for a city of supposedly over 1m it doesn't have a huge amount of life. Sydney and Melbourne had much greater character/identity I found, my personal favourite being Sydney with the amazing setting.

schmalex

13,616 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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I got into a bit of trouble in a bar in Sydney (Bar 333 on George St) once, due to a pissed up Bogan not being too happy that we had just whipped the Aussies at rugby. It was all a bit of a storm in a teacup, but nothing too serious.

I've only ever found really friendly people there. I'm a pretty gregarious person & travelling on my own, I always made sure I went out & met new people in bars & clubs, some of whome remain really good friends to this day.

durbster

10,311 posts

224 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Driven all the way round Australia. The cities are really no different to European cities. Bars, shops, traffic, busy people etc.

Sydney's like London only much prettier but without the history, Melbourne's a bit more cultural and arty, Adelaide is just a big town (we drove past it by accident, had to turn around smile ).

A couple of days in any big city is plenty for me so can't add much more. Westernised cities are pretty much the same the world over under the skin in my experience.

dienamic

827 posts

205 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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AJI said:
Thanks for the replies.

Am I correct in saying that Australian cities are probably among the safest in the world in terms of crime and healthy living?

The only city daring to raise its head onto the radar being Sydney?
(Somebody told me that western areas of Sydney can have crime issues, gangs, etc.)
Not quite. http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/08/13/10291...

Rosscow

8,798 posts

165 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Funnily enough, someone I know on another forum is in Australia at the moment and posted this:

Was casually having some lunch in Adelaide in a busy shopping street, all of a sudden there is a load of commotion about 5-10m away...someone got stabbed in the chest and stomach. Madness in broad daylight in the middle of the day in such a busy place. Police everywhere, ambulance came, guy got arrested.
4th incident I've seen in 9 months now. This was headline news on the 6pm news too.

AJI

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5,180 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Blimey!

schmalex

13,616 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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My Aussie friends do call Adelaide the home for god botherers, drunks and murderers.....

Rosscow

8,798 posts

165 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Those 4 incidents were spread between Sydney and Adelaide.

I'm 30 and have never seen anything like that happen, so to see 4 incidents in 9 months must say something about the place....

SkinnyBoy

4,635 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Lived here 13 years and its getting worse. Place is overrun with bogans. Have a look on Google Earth at Melbourne and stare in amazement at the lack of greenery it's one continuous sprawl upto the border. Some stunning places here but it's getting steadily ruined by cashed up bogans bleeding the joy out of the beach, the snow and anywhere that they can install themselves.