RE: PH in LA: Liveblog

Monday 25th November 2013

PH in LA: Liveblog

An early morning blast up the canyons, cars and coffee and classic Mercs



If life on four wheels looks better under Californian sun this is where you can get a taste, editor Dan out with Porsche to catch up on the LA Auto Show and witness unveilings for the Macan and others from Jaguar, Mercedes and more. After that he's nicking a 991 press car and off in search of further 911-shaped adventures with Magnus Walker, Singer and others.

Keep checking by for regular updates here and follow Dan's Twitter feed on @Trent_Dan (#PHLA2013) for on-the-spot reports. In a new format links to archived previous posts can be found below.



Saturday, 2030h, LAX airport
So my last day in California started early; really early. But for once I didn't begrudge the misaligned body clock waking me at 5am on a Saturday, deciding to capitalise on it by picking a promising looking squiggle on the map and going for an early morning blast in the 991. And it was fabulous, a twisting roller coaster road not dissimilar to the ones driven on the recent Aston Martin launch nearby. You schlep through a lot of boring Interstate and stoplight suburbia in LA but when you do escape and get into the mountains, boy, it gets good.

And I was back in time to attend Cars and Coffee too, a Sunday Service style fixture of the LA motoring scene. And as diverse too - any meet that can have a Saleen Mustang parked next to an old Fiat 500 and E-type Jaguar is alright in my book. And I'm not sure anyone's ever brought a Porsche tractor to a PH meet yet.

From there I went to catch up with the guys at the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center (I'll demure to use their spelling as it's the official name) who I'd seen briefly the night before as the search to solve a mystery mechanical noise on a customer's 300SL Roadster got a bit tasty. The car was due to be picked up today and as we left spannerman genius Nate at 8pm on a Friday he'd just returned from a test drive looking frustrated. "Right," he shrugged. "We'll change the prop shaft and see if that does it. And if that doesn't we'll replace the clutch. And if that doesn't work we'll have to swap out the transmission..." And that's what he did, working until gone 3am. Such are the pressures of handing over a car and presenting the owner with a $250,000 restoration bill... Still, even with the half million purchase price with 300SLs making over a million these days he was still going to be quids (or rather dollars) in. Welcome to the crazy world of Californian car collectoring.

Sensing that Nate, Mike and the guys probably weren't in the mood to chat I went out in a couple of cars, including a delightful burgundy on tan 230SL 'Pagoda' that rasped its way up another twisty canyon road. A world away from the 991 but still huge fun. This followed by a quick run in one of the rarest AMGs ever - an R63 no less, one of apparently just 80 ever made. A big old brute and no beauty but rarity gifts it curiousity value.

And now here I am, ready to board my flight home and reflect on a cracking few days of car geekery. California is never anything less than full-on but the car is king out here and whether Porsche shaped or not there's a ton of four-wheeled fun to be enjoyed. Shame you can't fit a rust-free 911 SC in your hold baggage too. Ho hum.

Dan









Previous updates:
Tuesday, 1500h, welcome to LA
Wednesday, 0600h, Macan launch uncovered
Wednesday, 1215h, LA - world of taste and decency
Wednesday, 1530h, Hatz holds court
Thursday, 0600h, first meeting with Singer
Thursday 2200h, hanging out with Magnus Walker
Friday,0600h, Trans Am race 911s and TRE Motorsport
Saturday, 0730h, reporting in from Singer

 


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Discussion

bobberz

Original Poster:

1,832 posts

201 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Looking forward to it, particularly the bits about Walker and Singer.

pagani1

683 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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The Singer does put the boot in to the new massive 911 as to the optimum size for a sports car and shows the true beauty of the original whereas the new 911 looks like a Pixar version.

Mavican

135 posts

166 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Nearly got upstaged by a Buick Regal on that video of the Excelero!

tstain

163 posts

241 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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The SLK-G. Ex Jim Rogers?

TWPC

846 posts

163 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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On the launch of the Macan, the response from Dr Hatz you hope for:

"Why have we done it?" asked Porsche's Wolfgang Hatz in a scripted exchange during the presentation. "Because these things are so profitable that VW will allow us to keep spending squillions engineering the most wonderful sports cars, ignore market research and design a decent manual for the 911."

The response you fear (though I honestly think it isn't the case (I may be deluded.)):

"Why have we done it?" asked Porsche's Wolfgang Hatz in a scripted exchange during the presentation. "To make massive profits for VW who care more about their shareholders and employees than sports car drivers."

Richyboy

3,741 posts

219 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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That vw macan looks well nice.

dingocooke

670 posts

222 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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b u g g e r the VW/Porsche company line drivel, Steve McQueen's XKSS is worth the trip on it's own!

zebedee

4,591 posts

280 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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oh the XKSS, rarely pops up, but that makes it all the nicer to see when it does. Gorgeous car.

DISASTRA 5 0

56 posts

142 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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zebedee said:
oh the XKSS, rarely pops up, but that makes it all the nicer to see when it does. Gorgeous car.
+1 I hope I age as well as that!

SAndals

170 posts

176 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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DISASTRA 5 0 said:
zebedee said:
oh the XKSS, rarely pops up, but that makes it all the nicer to see when it does. Gorgeous car.
+1 I hope I age as well as that!
+2 - as good as it gets!

zebedee

4,591 posts

280 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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I defy anyone who even knows nothing about cars to not stop and stare when one goes past (and one did go past me once, at the Historic Festival. I stopped, stared, then ran to where it was parking up!

Gary C

12,684 posts

181 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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The se cab looks nice

Andy ap

1,147 posts

174 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Ooooh that challenger gets me all tingly. Out the way dull euro boxes i want one of those!

Cotty

39,754 posts

286 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Andy ap said:
Ooooh that challenger gets me all tingly. Out the way dull euro boxes i want one of those!
I would love one, but about two thirds the size

belleair302

6,879 posts

209 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Challenger, sounds great, goes well but the interior is dreadful and the rearward vision is a joke. The blindspot is jumbo jet sized. The original is pure Americana.....

strummerville

1,016 posts

129 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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belleair302 said:
Challenger, sounds great, goes well but the interior is dreadful and the rearward vision is a joke. The blindspot is jumbo jet sized. The original is pure Americana.....
Maybe that's why it crashed into the bulldozers in Vanishing Point or the fact that the driver couldn't see the girl hanging off the bonnet in Death Proof...

Total loss

2,138 posts

229 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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strummerville said:
belleair302 said:
Challenger, sounds great, goes well but the interior is dreadful and the rearward vision is a joke. The blindspot is jumbo jet sized. The original is pure Americana.....
Maybe that's why it crashed into the bulldozers in Vanishing Point
But it didn't, it's a Camaro that crash's into the bulldozers

AbarthChris

2,259 posts

217 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Total loss said:
strummerville said:
belleair302 said:
Challenger, sounds great, goes well but the interior is dreadful and the rearward vision is a joke. The blindspot is jumbo jet sized. The original is pure Americana.....
Maybe that's why it crashed into the bulldozers in Vanishing Point
But it didn't, it's a Camaro that crash's into the bulldozers
Since when?

chrisironside

692 posts

164 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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pagani1 said:
The Singer does put the boot in to the new massive 911 as to the optimum size for a sports car and shows the true beauty of the original whereas the new 911 looks like a Pixar version.
I think the 991 is a fantastic looking car that will stand the test of time. In my opinion, the best of the 911 designs since the 993, and one of the best ever.
I love the 70s 911s, but cars have changed since then (safety requirements, expectations of speed, mass production requirements etc. etc.) and doubt it's either possible or practical to make the same car nowadays.

900T-R

20,404 posts

259 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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chrisironside said:
pagani1 said:
The Singer does put the boot in to the new massive 911 as to the optimum size for a sports car and shows the true beauty of the original whereas the new 911 looks like a Pixar version.
I think the 991 is a fantastic looking car that will stand the test of time. In my opinion, the best of the 911 designs since the 993, and one of the best ever.
I love the 70s 911s, but cars have changed since then (safety requirements, expectations of speed, mass production requirements etc. etc.) and doubt it's either possible or practical to make the same car nowadays.
Good points all round - and I genuinely the combination of the two shows the way to the future for us 'hardcore' car/driving enthusiasts. Due to the above factors we won't get the cars we want factory new, so we will (have someone) rebuild and re-imagine the old ones we love according to our wishes. Expect more outfits like Singer, Eagle E-Types, Frontline etc. and individuals like Magnus Walker on the case.

Me, I'm rather comfortable with this notion as long as authoritarian tendencies within the powers that be won't be able to break down the current principle for determining roadwortiness that a vehicle only has to conform to the regulations that were in force when it was first built...