How ruinous are W124's

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Original Poster:

958 posts

192 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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Hi,

Can't make mind up on what estate car to buy!!

Keep going back to the W124's and thinking they would be a nicer keeper. At the age that they are at just how much money are they going to need to keep them nice?

Is one like this http://www.w124.co.uk/carsforsale.php?page=detail&... going to be trouble to upkeep?


Thanks for any advice! I'm happy enough doing DIY where possible.

Negative Creep

25,028 posts

229 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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I had a W124 200TE auto for about 5 months. There was some rust on the wings (common problem) but the underside was spotless. The only problem I ever had was a misfire that was cured by some WD40 and a wire brush around the dizzy cap and rotor arm. Had 227k on the clock but was still going strong and everything worked, although the 2 litre is rather underpowered. Comfy, rides well, massive boot and despite the size of it it's very easy to park thanks to great visibility. The auto box suits it well and I had no problem with the foot operated parking brake, although I know some don't like them. It's a cliche, but in terms of quality it feels a world away from a Mondeo or most things of similar age


Values do seem to be weird - I had mine for sale for nearly 3 months and only got £330 for it in the end

Pablo16v

2,118 posts

199 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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Sorry, I can't help with running costs but that looks lovely. I wonder how much they're wanting for it.

0a

23,907 posts

196 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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They are reliable and generally cheap to keep running. I did the discs and pads on my w124 and my old a8 at the same time with the same mechanic and the w124 cost we'll under half that of the a8. Other parts are available and reasonably priced.

The thing to watch out for is rust - the arches will have either been replaced or will need doing. They all go!

That said you may get obcessed and set about trying to make it a new car (no names mentioned here) in which case you can chose how much you spend .

I love my w124 even though it's only a rusty old 4 door. They seem to be universally liked in terms of "image" as well.

Regarding price the market is splitting into "nice" ones that command a premium, and cars that don't. A w124 can be run for years with no money spent on it - they hide abuse well so beware!

The one above looks lovely.

stain

1,051 posts

212 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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Nick (car featured) has some of the best examples out there but you pay for it. That particular car has no AC which is a deal breaker for me.

The big costs on the 6 cylinder cars are engine looms, ECU, rusty wings and cills, water getting in the boot, brake and suspension lines.

Buy one which has had all that done and you're fine. Easy to spend up to 10 grand in repairs if you are unlucky though.

0a

23,907 posts

196 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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I think it's very difficult to spend £10k! If you chose to replace every component, have a fully respray, engage professionals to remove and replace the interior yes, £10k is doable.

The items that you may need to do on even the worst W124:

Rust & wings - £1,200
Wiring loom

That's it. A basic suspension refresh is £500 if you don't go mad.

Another thing to add is that my mechanic rates the car as the most enjoyable (aside from when I had him to the ball joints!) to work on of all the cars he looks after. Bits unbolt and bolt back on. They were designed to be maintained rather than designed to be thrown away. This makes the car a good DIY car if you are into that kind of thing.

stain

1,051 posts

212 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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10k is if everything needs doing.

I've had 2 280s and my second one needed a loom, ecu, gearbox and t/c, spheres and I replaced the rusty front wings. I didn't get round to doing the back windows to cure the mould. Despite all of that I'd have another in a heartbeat.

0a

23,907 posts

196 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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stain said:
10k is if everything needs doing.

I've had 2 280s and my second one needed a loom, ecu, gearbox and t/c, spheres and I replaced the rusty front wings. I didn't get round to doing the back windows to cure the mould. Despite all of that I'd have another in a heartbeat.
Buy an early one and there's no degradable loom to worry about smile or T/C

The later cars do seem to be significantly lower quality.

stain

1,051 posts

212 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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Both of mine were 96s

0a

23,907 posts

196 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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stain said:
Both of mine were 96s
Mine's a 91. I really regret not phoning about a 60k mile 300 estate on an F plate with every option (including black leather orthopedic seats) which was up for £1k - rusty wings, but that's a standard fix. The bloke had just sold it when I called. I'd go early with W124s given the option.

DKL

4,520 posts

224 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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That does look a nice place to be. I'd be intrigued to know what they are asking.
It seems they don't put prices on anything which is just daft. These aren't mega money cars - frankly that would put me off that place before I even went.

0a

23,907 posts

196 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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They are at the top end of the W124 market, and sell good cars by all accounts. I've not seen one of their cars in person - i'd like to - to see how good they really are.

Anyone have an idea what the car above is up for? I'd bet £4.5k.

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

187 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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I ran a W124 estate (200 TE) a couple of years ago, for about a year. I replaced anti-roll bar bushes, and front coil springs which had both (!) cracked. It was a great old bus smile

CharlesdeGaulle

26,554 posts

182 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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0a said:
Anyone have an idea what the car above is up for? I'd bet £4.5k.
I'd bet rather more.

DKL

4,520 posts

224 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
I'd bet rather more.
Me too so put the blasted prices on!

CharlesdeGaulle

26,554 posts

182 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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OP - check out the Bargain Barge 1-5 thread; loads of 124 love there. And some alternatives too.

slippery

14,093 posts

241 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
OP - check out the Bargain Barge 1-5 thread; loads of 124 love there. And some alternatives too.
This is your best bet OP. If you like the idea of a 124, the above thread is an absolute must. smile

0a

23,907 posts

196 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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slippery said:
This is your best bet OP. If you like the idea of a 124, the above thread is an absolute must. smile
I doubt there is a W124 on sale us saddos have not looked at and considered posting to this thread smile

6cylGolf

700 posts

192 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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Had an e320 coupe drove to northern denmark in it and ran it there through winter. 180k plus my 10k miles bought and sold for 500 quid. No servicing or repairs needed

stain

1,051 posts

212 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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I reckon the featured car will be 8-10