After the Zoe / Leaf lease .....

After the Zoe / Leaf lease .....

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DSLiverpool

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14,797 posts

203 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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We have 9 months left on the Zoe and 11 months on the Leaf but I was thinking "what next" we really got a bargain with these cars both costing £3,600 over 2 years and its saved my Mrs a fortune plus she has only ever had a range issue once which was easily solved (she does 6k a year running around).
The leaf has done 2500 miles in a year because I used it as a commuter for my 14 mile trip to my old place of work and I dont do much running around.
I have been looking at the cheapest owned Leaf / Zoe thinking I would buy one and just run it till it dies if we get 3/4 years we have made money on it and I am sure it will be worth "something" even then.
Cheapest Leaf is £7k owned and Zoe £5500 but with battery on top at £700 a year so would probably be a Leaf.
Unless they do some great deals in a year ?

EddieSteadyGo

12,161 posts

204 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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I would just buy one rather than lease at the current prices.

The best current Leaf leases seem to be around £5000 for 2 years.

There was a 6 month old car with very low mileage with the new, larger 30kw battery on autotrader for sale for £12,500 which sounded to me quite cheap.


teabelly

164 posts

232 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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PCH deals for normal cars are pretty cheap.

Nissan juke 1.6 petrol is under £4k for 2 years for 10k pa. http://www.swiftlease.co.uk/personal-lease-cars/ni...

Leaves you just over £1k for fuel, servicing and road tax for 2 years. If you do a very low mileage in the car then it could be cheaper to get a normal petrol.

If you are paying the london congestion charge a lot then another EV easily pays for itself.

You could probably get something cheaper but it's likely to be a city car or something even more ugly like the Cactus.


DSLiverpool

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14,797 posts

203 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Your right about a juke etc but the leaf is pre heated, quiet and comfy a joy to commit in. Needs more thought

EddieSteadyGo

12,161 posts

204 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
Your right about a juke etc but the leaf is pre heated, quiet and comfy a joy to commit in. Needs more thought
Completely agree about the qualities of the Leaf.

Surely the way forward is to wait until you are about 2 months before the end of the lease, then check what deals are available on a lease. If nothing attractive is available, just buy a Tekna spec, lightly used one.





anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Starting to think about this too

Zoe is on 14200 miles now with 18k on the lease that ends at Xmas

Would have another, even at a bit more than the £153 per month this one is costing.

Like the look of the i3, but not worth 2 Zoes!

dave_s13

13,816 posts

270 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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JPJPJP said:
Starting to think about this too

Zoe is on 14200 miles now with 18k on the lease that ends at Xmas

Would have another, even at a bit more than the £153 per month this one is costing.

Like the look of the i3, but not worth 2 Zoes!
Me too.

The mitsubish imiev, citroen c zero and Peugeot equivalent look like contenders for the cheap outright purchase.

ooo000ooo

2,544 posts

195 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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If all is Zoe owners that are due to change around Xmas club together, can we get a good deal, sort of group discount? wink

dave_s13

13,816 posts

270 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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I'd be up for that. I basically want either a zoe or a leaf for what I'm paying now.

lost in espace

6,180 posts

208 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Mine is up in Jan 2017. Not sure what to replace it with, borrowed a mini cab today and it is awful. Made me realise what a lovely drive the Zoe is.

gangzoom

6,358 posts

216 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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There been a couple of used 60kWh Model S appear on the Tesla pre-owned website for £40k ish. Currently there's even a 85kWh S on for £46k. Give it another 12 month an used prices will be getting close to <£35k. Bear in mind the 4 year and 50K warranty that comes with each approved Model S, that's getting down to half sensible money for a EV with much better range than either the Leaf or Zoe.

That's the route am going down anyways smile.

teabelly

164 posts

232 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Have Tesla sorted the issue with the drive trains failing at 50,000 miles or so? Does that new after market warranty cover it for another 50,000 miles on top of whatever current mileage it has on it?

Pre heating is easy to get: http://www.webasto.com/gb/markets-products/car/ret...

It's been around for years. I was looking at getting something similar over a decade ago smile

Edited by teabelly on Monday 29th February 08:33

DSLiverpool

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14,797 posts

203 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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This excercise is the comfiest yet cheapest possible 12 mile commute - I certainly dont need a Tesla but neither do I want a 10 year old S class.

I have nearly a year and we also have a XC70 Volvo and shortly a Mustang to do it as well lol


teabelly

164 posts

232 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Use the mustang!!!! The £239 a month of the leaf would be a decent wedge toward the mustang's inevitable running costs smile

DSLiverpool

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14,797 posts

203 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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teabelly said:
Use the mustang!!!! The £239 a month of the leaf would be a decent wedge toward the mustang's inevitable running costs smile
My new work car park is like the wild west until we can get our own building - Mustang door dings would kill me after waiting 16 months for it!

teabelly

164 posts

232 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
My new work car park is like the wild west until we can get our own building - Mustang door dings would kill me after waiting 16 months for it!
Good point. Might need to factor in the cost of an armed guard wink

andburg

7,366 posts

170 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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The market for used EV's seems very weak at the moment, and with the cheap lease deals due to end soon could get worse as the cars flood the market. Mate was looking and I reckon we're not far from the £5000 leaf after a good haggle!

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Having a 24 hour test drive in an i3 Rex next Thursday / Friday

Will summarise thoughts on how it compares to Zoe

I remain optimistic though that I can find another Zoe at about the same money when the time comes.

squirejo

794 posts

244 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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I am picking up a 2014 i3 Rex tomorrow, 3.5k miles, paid 20.5k.

Zoe trade in bid was 3k. 20 mths old, 6 k miles, dynamique intens. So you should be able to get a hefty discount
On one of the 70 for sale on autotrader which might make the outright purchase cheaper than lease on say a 2 yr view.....

Zoe has been terrific for my 15mile daily commuting. I fancied something a bit smarter now I am an EV convert and the flexibility of Rex I find v appealing. Will report back..,,

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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squirejo said:
I am picking up a 2014 i3 Rex tomorrow, 3.5k miles, paid 20.5k.

Zoe trade in bid was 3k. 20 mths old, 6 k miles, dynamique intens. So you should be able to get a hefty discount
On one of the 70 for sale on autotrader which might make the outright purchase cheaper than lease on say a 2 yr view.....

Zoe has been terrific for my 15mile daily commuting. I fancied something a bit smarter now I am an EV convert and the flexibility of Rex I find v appealing. Will report back..,,
3k trade in for the Zoe! Wowzers!