Looking to buy an Auto Diesel

Looking to buy an Auto Diesel

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cpjitservices

Original Poster:

373 posts

95 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Hi all

Looking to buy the Audi A6 Avant 2.5, pref diesel. Probs looking at an older model so 2003-2005.

My question is, most of them I'm looking at are Auto. Is the 2.5 Diesel thirsty on Auto ?

I ask as I've never owned a Diesel Auto. I know Petrol can be thirsty on an Auto but is it the same for a Diesel ?


Thanks in advance


Kind Regards

PositronicRay

27,108 posts

184 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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The Audi 2.5 TDI is a dog, + avoid multitronic. For diesel autos I'd look @ MB.

cpjitservices

Original Poster:

373 posts

95 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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I'm not necessarily looking for an Auto, I have an Auto petrol at the moment (Vectra) but looking at getting an allroad or the standard A6 avant.

How is the 2.5 a dog ? is the 1.9 any better ?


cpjitservices

Original Poster:

373 posts

95 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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PositronicRay said:
The Audi 2.5 TDI is a dog, + avoid multitronic. For diesel autos I'd look @ MB.
MB ?

PositronicRay

27,108 posts

184 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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MB=Mercedes Benz.

1.9 is a tougher unit than the 2.5. Allroad at least uses a proper auto though.

cpjitservices

Original Poster:

373 posts

95 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Ive seen a few Mercs about im looking at a 1500 budget. Seen a few A6 avants I like the look of, right interior etc but they are Auto. Ive seen 2.5 and 1.9. I fancy getting diesel so it will cover the miles.

Yes, I'd go for the standard A6 or the Allroad which ever comes first in my budget. Budget will grow whilst im waiting for the right one to crop up. The allroad diesel is only the 2.5. So is that still a dog with a better Auto box ?

I'd rather have the manual version.

PositronicRay

27,108 posts

184 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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cpjitservices said:
Ive seen a few Mercs about im looking at a 1500 budget. Seen a few A6 avants I like the look of, right interior etc but they are Auto. Ive seen 2.5 and 1.9. I fancy getting diesel so it will cover the miles.

Yes, I'd go for the standard A6 or the Allroad which ever comes first in my budget. Budget will grow whilst im waiting for the right one to crop up. The allroad diesel is only the 2.5. So is that still a dog with a better Auto box ?

I'd rather have the manual version.
If you buy a £1500 Allroad, you'll need a decent contingency fund. With that budget I'd look at a manual 1.9.

cpjitservices

Original Poster:

373 posts

95 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Yeah I've heard thy are expensive to run with the Suspension pumps failing etc, I'll see if I can find an A6 Avant in a 1.9.... and manual.

What makes the 2.5 A dog ?

PositronicRay

27,108 posts

184 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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The 2.5 is unreliable, expensive to fix, thirsty and with poor power delivery.

Actually with a 1500 budget I'd look @ a Passat, Volvo, Saab or Mondeo.

cpjitservices

Original Poster:

373 posts

95 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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I'll see whats about although I dont think the 1.9 is out of reach. Like I say it's 1500 at the moment but that'll grow for a few months yet whilst im waiting for the right one.

Thanks for the advice

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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I'll just throw this in. Why do you need a diesel?

confused_buyer

6,659 posts

182 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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An A6 Allroad 2.5 Auto of this vintage will do 20-25mpg max, often sub-20.

They are incredibly thirsty cars.

The FWD A6 of this vintages uses the CVT Multitronic. They are good, when they work, but often give trouble.

Best bet if you want an old A6 is a 1.9 TDI 130 Manual with the 5-speed gearbox (also available as a 6-speed manaual but they can have issues too).

Sheepshanks

32,966 posts

120 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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PositronicRay said:
If you buy a £1500 Allroad, you'll need a decent contingency fund.
Why bother? Throw it away if it goes wrong.


Stop / start driving kills the MPG in conventional (torque converter) autos. On the move there should be much difference between manual and auto - sometime auto is better as they can be higher geared.

t400ble

1,804 posts

122 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Avoid the audi. EBay is full of them with broken gearboxes

Just bought a friend a Rover 75

cpjitservices

Original Poster:

373 posts

95 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Im after diesel for the simple fact is I want it to cover the miles.

Every weekend I do a 120 (each way) mile trip. Usually Motorway but can take the back roads too. 6 miles trip to and from work.

At the moment I have a Vectra B 1.8 Petrol Auto and its thirsty as F**k


I do like the idea of the 130 1.9 Diesel and in Manual would be ideal.


gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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I have owned both, the 2.5tdi Quattro was very thirsty, often sitting at around 22mpg for the whole tank, on a run it would nudge over 30mpg.

The 1.9tdi has the horrid multitronic gearbox and averaged 33mpg over the year and 30k miles I had it.


V7 D5 Auto will see around 35mpg in comparison.

Merc E320cdi will see around 35mpg in comparison.


Also the A6 of that era was well behind the Volvo, Merc and BMW in terms of quality, ride and overall feel. But did look nice.

cpjitservices

Original Poster:

373 posts

95 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Right ok, anyone owned the manual versions ? Are they any better ?

Thanks for the advice, I like the suggestions. What about something in the BMW range ? 318 Tourer in a manual ?

cpjitservices

Original Poster:

373 posts

95 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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This is along the lines that I was looking at.

Its got the right steering wheel and the right trim, and the right engine.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262626503323?_trksid=p20...

Would like one with a few less miles, though this engine would probs last way beyond what its already done looked after.

Edited by cpjitservices on Thursday 20th October 12:34

cpjitservices

Original Poster:

373 posts

95 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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gizlaroc said:
I have owned both, the 2.5tdi Quattro was very thirsty, often sitting at around 22mpg for the whole tank, on a run it would nudge over 30mpg.

The 1.9tdi has the horrid multitronic gearbox and averaged 33mpg over the year and 30k miles I had it.


V7 D5 Auto will see around 35mpg in comparison.

Merc E320cdi will see around 35mpg in comparison.


Also the A6 of that era was well behind the Volvo, Merc and BMW in terms of quality, ride and overall feel. But did look nice.
Always liked that style of Merc but maybe the 3.2 would be too big.

I'm presuming the Audi A4 wouldn't be a better choice ? again with the 1.9 manual ?

GreatGranny

9,169 posts

227 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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At that price point you want something as simple as possible so I would discount the Merc 320. No need for a large complicated diesel engine with no doubt high miles and possible maintained on a tight budget.

The 1.9 is in loads of different VAG models and is proven to be reliable if looked after correctly.
There are a few issues but that's true with most diesel engines.

I had an Alhambra with the 130 engine in it and it was excellent.
Towed a 1500kg van with it fully loaded and it coped really well.

Only issue in the 3 years we owned it apart from normal wear and tear items was a blown boost pipe.

Local garage sorted it for £130.

It averaged 40+ mpg. Not bad for am MPV.

However if you are doing less than 200 miles per week then a petrol would be ok.
Difference in cost between 35mpg and 40 mpg would be minimal over a year.

E46 Touring as you mentioned would be a good shout.