Fords 1.0 EcoBoost Engine
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Hello all
Im in the market for a used small car to dot around town and to work in,
I have narrowed down my search to a Skoda Fabia 2012-2014 in 1.2 TSI guise Pref Monte Carlo trim too
a 2014 Kia Rio 3 1.4 crdi,( drove the petrol and its a bit lifeless)
or a mk7.5 fiesta with the 1.0 Ecoboost engine
The latter being my favorite at the moment as the ST-Line has certainly caught my eye. My only downside is when i look at replacing a car i do a lot of research to see if its a viable choice, and given the ecoboosts ( or ecoboom as my other half calls it) tough time recently are they still a good engine with decent reliability? i have driven a few of these as courtesy cars and get out thinking its a great engine. i would have the 125ps or stretch to the 140ps version if it falls in my budget. but i have the niggling doubt in my mind that they arnt all they are cracked up to be.
Can anyone shed some light on if the 'fix' that ford rolled out has solved the original issue?
Many Thanks
Im in the market for a used small car to dot around town and to work in,
I have narrowed down my search to a Skoda Fabia 2012-2014 in 1.2 TSI guise Pref Monte Carlo trim too
a 2014 Kia Rio 3 1.4 crdi,( drove the petrol and its a bit lifeless)
or a mk7.5 fiesta with the 1.0 Ecoboost engine
The latter being my favorite at the moment as the ST-Line has certainly caught my eye. My only downside is when i look at replacing a car i do a lot of research to see if its a viable choice, and given the ecoboosts ( or ecoboom as my other half calls it) tough time recently are they still a good engine with decent reliability? i have driven a few of these as courtesy cars and get out thinking its a great engine. i would have the 125ps or stretch to the 140ps version if it falls in my budget. but i have the niggling doubt in my mind that they arnt all they are cracked up to be.
Can anyone shed some light on if the 'fix' that ford rolled out has solved the original issue?
Many Thanks
Only tried the 1.0 Fiesta Ecoboost in 100ps flavour but fond it better with a 5 speed box rather than the 6 speed box in the current new model. It felt peppier off the line and had more go around town. The 6 would be better if motorway driving was involved but I only tried around town.
No issues with the Mk 7.5 worth worrying about. They're all sorted by then. ecoboom isn't really true any more.
We've had a 65plate 125bhp Mk 7.5 for about 6k miles now, and it's ok. Bought it with 13k on the clock and it's on 19k now, since Feb.
It's perfectly adequate transport.
It's not very frugal if you just drive it normally. The thing with these very small turbo petrol engines is they either give you performance OR economy, not both at the same time. You need to drive like a saint to get >40mpg. We've averaged 36mpg so far just being normal.
We chose the fiesta over other cars for the spec... Titanium X had heated screen, heated seats, cruise and DAB, all needed for winter commutes. Other models e.g. Polo were hard to find with all of that. Especially heated screen, as that tends to be a Ford/JLR thing.
Parts and servicing are very cheap. Tax is £0 which is always nice.
I can't give you a reason not to buy one.
We've had a 65plate 125bhp Mk 7.5 for about 6k miles now, and it's ok. Bought it with 13k on the clock and it's on 19k now, since Feb.
It's perfectly adequate transport.
It's not very frugal if you just drive it normally. The thing with these very small turbo petrol engines is they either give you performance OR economy, not both at the same time. You need to drive like a saint to get >40mpg. We've averaged 36mpg so far just being normal.
We chose the fiesta over other cars for the spec... Titanium X had heated screen, heated seats, cruise and DAB, all needed for winter commutes. Other models e.g. Polo were hard to find with all of that. Especially heated screen, as that tends to be a Ford/JLR thing.
Parts and servicing are very cheap. Tax is £0 which is always nice.
I can't give you a reason not to buy one.
I'll chime in with some additional experience I guess..
I have a 68-plate (Mk8) Fiesta with the 1.0 125ps EcoBoost, 6spd manual.
About 2k miles in, and so far it's been a great little engine, actually quite enjoyable to drive, I think that's coupled with the fact that for what is basically a small shopping car, the Fiesta is genuinely a good drive.
My commute is about 2 miles urban, 3 miles B-road, then 17 miles motorway, so a decent mix, and it handles it fine.
Cruise control at ~72mph, with the other mixed driving (the urban miles are usually stop-start rush hour), and I've averaged 43mpg.
Aside from the engine, the car itself is really good. I have the Titanium trim level, which has most of the stuff you need I guess - tablet on the dash with CarPlay, Nav and all that.. Cruise, auto everything. Does what it says on the tin.
I have a 68-plate (Mk8) Fiesta with the 1.0 125ps EcoBoost, 6spd manual.
About 2k miles in, and so far it's been a great little engine, actually quite enjoyable to drive, I think that's coupled with the fact that for what is basically a small shopping car, the Fiesta is genuinely a good drive.
My commute is about 2 miles urban, 3 miles B-road, then 17 miles motorway, so a decent mix, and it handles it fine.
Cruise control at ~72mph, with the other mixed driving (the urban miles are usually stop-start rush hour), and I've averaged 43mpg.
Aside from the engine, the car itself is really good. I have the Titanium trim level, which has most of the stuff you need I guess - tablet on the dash with CarPlay, Nav and all that.. Cruise, auto everything. Does what it says on the tin.
I'd plump for the ecoboost, even if it works out more expensive.
MIL is now on her 2nd 120hp Ecoboost and they're great. Brililant noise, reasonably economical (I managed 48mpg on a recent trip in it) and it means you can get the best bit - the Fiesta/Focus to go with it. Imho they're the best in their segments at the moment.
MIL is now on her 2nd 120hp Ecoboost and they're great. Brililant noise, reasonably economical (I managed 48mpg on a recent trip in it) and it means you can get the best bit - the Fiesta/Focus to go with it. Imho they're the best in their segments at the moment.
any direct injection petrol engine will provide quite good mpg to be fair
for instance i have a JCW mini 1.6 turbo and that sits around 40-43mpg average dependent on the time of year and will nearly do 50mpg @ 70mph so i wouldn't discount other more performance cars
id much rather have mine over a fiesta but thats me!
for instance i have a JCW mini 1.6 turbo and that sits around 40-43mpg average dependent on the time of year and will nearly do 50mpg @ 70mph so i wouldn't discount other more performance cars
id much rather have mine over a fiesta but thats me!
fellows4 said:
TartanPaint said:
It's not very frugal if you just drive it normally. The thing with these very small turbo petrol engines is they either give you performance OR economy, not both at the same time. You need to drive like a saint to get >40mpg. We've averaged 36mpg so far just being normal.
That's absurd. A MK7.5 GTI PP will do 36MPG.They are nice to drive and go well, well, we got a 100 and it was adequate but needed a bit more grunt so it was remapped and is miles better, been running like that for three years, serviced the other day and it never uses any oil.
fellows4 said:
TartanPaint said:
It's not very frugal if you just drive it normally. The thing with these very small turbo petrol engines is they either give you performance OR economy, not both at the same time. You need to drive like a saint to get >40mpg. We've averaged 36mpg so far just being normal.
That's absurd. A MK7.5 GTI PP will do 36MPG.I'm not convinced by the economy figures, I have a 1.6 litre ecoboost fiesta ST and on a long run on the motorway and a bit of around town it will do 45MPG. Normal day to day driving will easily average 37MPG and complete hooning for an entire tank will struggle to drop the MPG below an average of 27MPG. so the litre should surely be better than that!
fellows4 said:
TartanPaint said:
It's not very frugal if you just drive it normally. The thing with these very small turbo petrol engines is they either give you performance OR economy, not both at the same time. You need to drive like a saint to get >40mpg. We've averaged 36mpg so far just being normal.
That's absurd. A MK7.5 GTI PP will do 36MPG.Our lass is on here second 1.0 100bhp Fiesta and despite a garbage commute (2 hours daily for just 40 miles) she's still managed high 40's average from both. Record out of the current (6 speed) one was an (indicated) 62mpg over 500 or so miles so they can be frugal if you really try.
50mpg isn't too difficult with normal driving.
CTS86 said:
I've no idea how you can only average 36mpg out of one of these "just being normal".
Our lass is on here second 1.0 100bhp Fiesta and despite a garbage commute (2 hours daily for just 40 miles) she's still managed high 40's average from both. Record out of the current (6 speed) one was an (indicated) 62mpg over 500 or so miles so they can be frugal if you really try.
50mpg isn't too difficult with normal driving.
Likewise; we have a 138bhp Red edition, which stubbornly refuses to go under 40mpg. It's averaging mid forties in over 40k miles, in spite of everything from town crawls to the shops, 100 mile + motorway trips, to thrashing around on the odd track event.Our lass is on here second 1.0 100bhp Fiesta and despite a garbage commute (2 hours daily for just 40 miles) she's still managed high 40's average from both. Record out of the current (6 speed) one was an (indicated) 62mpg over 500 or so miles so they can be frugal if you really try.
50mpg isn't too difficult with normal driving.
MarkwG said:
CTS86 said:
I've no idea how you can only average 36mpg out of one of these "just being normal".
Our lass is on here second 1.0 100bhp Fiesta and despite a garbage commute (2 hours daily for just 40 miles) she's still managed high 40's average from both. Record out of the current (6 speed) one was an (indicated) 62mpg over 500 or so miles so they can be frugal if you really try.
50mpg isn't too difficult with normal driving.
Likewise; we have a 138bhp Red edition, which stubbornly refuses to go under 40mpg. It's averaging mid forties in over 40k miles, in spite of everything from town crawls to the shops, 100 mile + motorway trips, to thrashing around on the odd track event.Our lass is on here second 1.0 100bhp Fiesta and despite a garbage commute (2 hours daily for just 40 miles) she's still managed high 40's average from both. Record out of the current (6 speed) one was an (indicated) 62mpg over 500 or so miles so they can be frugal if you really try.
50mpg isn't too difficult with normal driving.
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