Fords 1.0 EcoBoost Engine

Fords 1.0 EcoBoost Engine

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stumpyvtec

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29 posts

145 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Hello all

Im in the market for a used small car to dot around town and to work in,
I have narrowed down my search to a Skoda Fabia 2012-2014 in 1.2 TSI guise Pref Monte Carlo trim too
a 2014 Kia Rio 3 1.4 crdi,( drove the petrol and its a bit lifeless)
or a mk7.5 fiesta with the 1.0 Ecoboost engine

The latter being my favorite at the moment as the ST-Line has certainly caught my eye. My only downside is when i look at replacing a car i do a lot of research to see if its a viable choice, and given the ecoboosts ( or ecoboom as my other half calls it) tough time recently are they still a good engine with decent reliability? i have driven a few of these as courtesy cars and get out thinking its a great engine. i would have the 125ps or stretch to the 140ps version if it falls in my budget. but i have the niggling doubt in my mind that they arnt all they are cracked up to be.

Can anyone shed some light on if the 'fix' that ford rolled out has solved the original issue?

Many Thanks

thebigmacmoomin

2,808 posts

171 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Only tried the 1.0 Fiesta Ecoboost in 100ps flavour but fond it better with a 5 speed box rather than the 6 speed box in the current new model. It felt peppier off the line and had more go around town. The 6 would be better if motorway driving was involved but I only tried around town.

TartanPaint

3,007 posts

141 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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No issues with the Mk 7.5 worth worrying about. They're all sorted by then. ecoboom isn't really true any more.

We've had a 65plate 125bhp Mk 7.5 for about 6k miles now, and it's ok. Bought it with 13k on the clock and it's on 19k now, since Feb.

It's perfectly adequate transport.

It's not very frugal if you just drive it normally. The thing with these very small turbo petrol engines is they either give you performance OR economy, not both at the same time. You need to drive like a saint to get >40mpg. We've averaged 36mpg so far just being normal.

We chose the fiesta over other cars for the spec... Titanium X had heated screen, heated seats, cruise and DAB, all needed for winter commutes. Other models e.g. Polo were hard to find with all of that. Especially heated screen, as that tends to be a Ford/JLR thing.

Parts and servicing are very cheap. Tax is £0 which is always nice.

I can't give you a reason not to buy one.

smithyithy

7,289 posts

120 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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I'll chime in with some additional experience I guess..

I have a 68-plate (Mk8) Fiesta with the 1.0 125ps EcoBoost, 6spd manual.

About 2k miles in, and so far it's been a great little engine, actually quite enjoyable to drive, I think that's coupled with the fact that for what is basically a small shopping car, the Fiesta is genuinely a good drive.

My commute is about 2 miles urban, 3 miles B-road, then 17 miles motorway, so a decent mix, and it handles it fine.

Cruise control at ~72mph, with the other mixed driving (the urban miles are usually stop-start rush hour), and I've averaged 43mpg.

Aside from the engine, the car itself is really good. I have the Titanium trim level, which has most of the stuff you need I guess - tablet on the dash with CarPlay, Nav and all that.. Cruise, auto everything. Does what it says on the tin.

stumpyvtec

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29 posts

145 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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thanks for all the info, on a side note, as of today ( actaully about 30 mins ago) i may have to do longer miles for work. are the diesels any good or should i still look into the ecoboost?

Krikkit

26,674 posts

183 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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I'd plump for the ecoboost, even if it works out more expensive.

MIL is now on her 2nd 120hp Ecoboost and they're great. Brililant noise, reasonably economical (I managed 48mpg on a recent trip in it) and it means you can get the best bit - the Fiesta/Focus to go with it. Imho they're the best in their segments at the moment.

TheAlastair34

369 posts

130 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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any direct injection petrol engine will provide quite good mpg to be fair

for instance i have a JCW mini 1.6 turbo and that sits around 40-43mpg average dependent on the time of year and will nearly do 50mpg @ 70mph so i wouldn't discount other more performance cars

id much rather have mine over a fiesta but thats me!

tannhauser

1,773 posts

217 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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fellows4 said:
That's absurd. A MK7.5 GTI PP will do 36MPG.
What the hell is a PP?!

steve-5snwi

8,737 posts

95 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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PP = Performance Pack.

J4CKO

41,830 posts

202 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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fellows4 said:
TartanPaint said:
It's not very frugal if you just drive it normally. The thing with these very small turbo petrol engines is they either give you performance OR economy, not both at the same time. You need to drive like a saint to get >40mpg. We've averaged 36mpg so far just being normal.
That's absurd. A MK7.5 GTI PP will do 36MPG.
Not if you use the performance it wont, we get over 35 from our Fiesta Ecoboost whatever we do, with 50 ish available on a run, but they arent ridiculously economical, its a turbocharged petrol engine, none are really. if you think back, a 2.0 Pinto used to have 100 bhp and do early twenties mpg around town and had less torque, it weighed twice what these do and emitted all sorts of nasties.

They are nice to drive and go well, well, we got a 100 and it was adequate but needed a bit more grunt so it was remapped and is miles better, been running like that for three years, serviced the other day and it never uses any oil.

Jag_NE

3,030 posts

102 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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If fuel economy is important just get the diesel. If you are doing decent miles I’d expect 60s vs the ecoboost 40s. If you are doing 5k a year round the doors it starts to get a bit trivial.

MrGTI6

3,169 posts

132 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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fellows4 said:
TartanPaint said:
It's not very frugal if you just drive it normally. The thing with these very small turbo petrol engines is they either give you performance OR economy, not both at the same time. You need to drive like a saint to get >40mpg. We've averaged 36mpg so far just being normal.
That's absurd. A MK7.5 GTI PP will do 36MPG.
I get that from a 306 GTI-6!

MK1RS Bruce

674 posts

140 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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I'm not convinced by the economy figures, I have a 1.6 litre ecoboost fiesta ST and on a long run on the motorway and a bit of around town it will do 45MPG. Normal day to day driving will easily average 37MPG and complete hooning for an entire tank will struggle to drop the MPG below an average of 27MPG. so the litre should surely be better than that!


willmagrath

1,212 posts

148 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Don't forget the 1.6 ecoboost in the ST. They are very frugal, moreso than the 1.0 in my opinion for normal driving.

Mine will get 50+mpg at a 70mph cruise. And in a mph section I've seen 65mpg, it really is pretty remarkable!

CTS86

197 posts

180 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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fellows4 said:
TartanPaint said:
It's not very frugal if you just drive it normally. The thing with these very small turbo petrol engines is they either give you performance OR economy, not both at the same time. You need to drive like a saint to get >40mpg. We've averaged 36mpg so far just being normal.
That's absurd. A MK7.5 GTI PP will do 36MPG.
I've no idea how you can only average 36mpg out of one of these "just being normal".

Our lass is on here second 1.0 100bhp Fiesta and despite a garbage commute (2 hours daily for just 40 miles) she's still managed high 40's average from both. Record out of the current (6 speed) one was an (indicated) 62mpg over 500 or so miles so they can be frugal if you really try.

50mpg isn't too difficult with normal driving.

MarkwG

4,886 posts

191 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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CTS86 said:
I've no idea how you can only average 36mpg out of one of these "just being normal".

Our lass is on here second 1.0 100bhp Fiesta and despite a garbage commute (2 hours daily for just 40 miles) she's still managed high 40's average from both. Record out of the current (6 speed) one was an (indicated) 62mpg over 500 or so miles so they can be frugal if you really try.

50mpg isn't too difficult with normal driving.
Likewise; we have a 138bhp Red edition, which stubbornly refuses to go under 40mpg. It's averaging mid forties in over 40k miles, in spite of everything from town crawls to the shops, 100 mile + motorway trips, to thrashing around on the odd track event.

Pica-Pica

14,029 posts

86 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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The Skoda Fabia is a very accomplished car, and very roomy. We have had the 1.2 TSi engine, from new since 2013, done 50k plus miles, never missed a beat.

Krikkit

26,674 posts

183 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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MarkwG said:
CTS86 said:
I've no idea how you can only average 36mpg out of one of these "just being normal".

Our lass is on here second 1.0 100bhp Fiesta and despite a garbage commute (2 hours daily for just 40 miles) she's still managed high 40's average from both. Record out of the current (6 speed) one was an (indicated) 62mpg over 500 or so miles so they can be frugal if you really try.

50mpg isn't too difficult with normal driving.
Likewise; we have a 138bhp Red edition, which stubbornly refuses to go under 40mpg. It's averaging mid forties in over 40k miles, in spite of everything from town crawls to the shops, 100 mile + motorway trips, to thrashing around on the odd track event.
The MIL's nearly new one has averaged 44 over the last 3k miles, even still not loosened up and running around town for the majority of its use.

ZX10R NIN

27,799 posts

127 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Go for the Fiesta it'll be a cracking car.

Mike335i

5,054 posts

104 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Just don't get an auto Fiesta, I had a STline with the paddle shifting twin clutch box for a day as a rental, it was slower to respond to the manual inputs than the 4 speed slusher in the Hyundia i20.

Engine was good though, perky in the lower gears but quickly runs out of puff.