RMS

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mogul

Original Poster:

15,001 posts

251 months

Saturday 22nd April 2006
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My car is a 996 C2 and nearly three years old. I've owned it from new and never tracked it or abused it.

I've had the RMS replaced twice so far and for reasons best known as 'esp' I thought as it's due a 3 year service/MOT next month I'd have look under the back and see if there was any evidence of oil......

And there it was.....

I'm covered under the warranty so Porsche will do the biz I guess, but I've only covered 5000 miles in the last year and should I expect this every bloody year?

There is obviously a problem with these seals based on the number of threads on various sites etc.

So what do I do?

Do I chuck my toys out of the pram or just accept that this is part of the 'ownership' of a modern 996?

Will this issue also have an effect on the re-sale value?

Cheers

ballcock

3,855 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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There are some constants in this world.
One that Einstein grappled with for some tome is the P~OL equation where P stands for porker and ... well you've probably guessed the rest!

On a more serious note ....

Ask your OPC if they are using 997 seals and make sure they are using the tool designed to push the seal further into the crank case. If both of these are done you SHOULD at least get to your next clutch change , when the seal can be changed for pennies.
There is also a ' Go / No go' tool that the opc can use to check if the engine and crank shaft are misalligned . If this is the case , the word is that they tend to change the engine as no amount of seal changes will remedy the situation.

I'm no expert but this is just some third party info I've picked up along the way.

boxin993

87 posts

218 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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Well i am no expert either but it seems to me you have got yourself a Friday teatime engine. Can someone explain to me how porsche are getting away with this, RMS, cylinder cracking, intermediate shaft failures, Bloody hell its a brave soul who runs a 996 (GT2 GT3 Turbo excluded) without a Porsche warranty, no wonder residuals for 996s are so poor, what is going to happen to the cars over ten years old ? You would need to be a crackpot with deep pockets to consider purchasing an eleven year old 996. all IMHO of course.

radron

237 posts

262 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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This is awful

I am the proud new owner of 996 c2 cab 1998 model, its just been through service at 47500 miles no signs of rms issues, is it a ticking bomb? maybe I should have stuck to my s2000??

Getting really concerned about this now. I have a warranty that will cover the rms but still...

ballcock

3,855 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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radron said:
This is awful

I am the proud new owner of 996 c2 cab 1998 model, its just been through service at 47500 miles no signs of rms issues, is it a ticking bomb? maybe I should have stuck to my s2000??

Getting really concerned about this now. I have a warranty that will cover the rms but still...


Get out there and hooooooon. You've just got post purchase trauma!
Ask around amongst owners of older 911's... Porsches leak oil ... and the news is , ITS NO BIG DEAL.

mogul

Original Poster:

15,001 posts

251 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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ballcock said:
radron said:
This is awful

I am the proud new owner of 996 c2 cab 1998 model, its just been through service at 47500 miles no signs of rms issues, is it a ticking bomb? maybe I should have stuck to my s2000??

Getting really concerned about this now. I have a warranty that will cover the rms but still...


Get out there and hooooooon. You've just got post purchase trauma!
Ask around amongst owners of older 911's... Porsches leak oil ... and the news is , ITS NO BIG DEAL.


As long as it's NO BIG DEAL that's fine.

So are you saying apart from a drip of oil on the floor this common problem just isn't worth getting worried about?

stirlings

317 posts

224 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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Ive changed 3 RMS on 993 's in the last 6 months
Theres so much talk on forums about 996 RMS, but strangely when i started a Post on 993 RMS, it never generated any debate

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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stirlings said:

Ive changed 3 RMS on 993 's in the last 6 months
Theres so much talk on forums about 996 RMS, but strangely when i started a Post on 993 RMS, it never generated any debate
RMS AND door check straps... Schhh, you'll start a right bun fight

nervous

24,050 posts

231 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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anyone else hear an echo? echo echo echo

boxin993

87 posts

218 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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OK you got me, let the bun fight commence All RMSs fail at some point in all cars but lets face it mogul has had to change his every year on a three year old car, excuse me but if that was my car i would be getting shut, and if anyone says that changing the RMS seal every year on what amounts to be a new car is acceptable then no wonder porsche are not worried, Bloody hell you would stand for drop of York, as we say up North

itsalovelycolour

8 posts

222 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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Oh yes we hear the echo echo echo, i wonder why??? edited to say post by Boxin.

>> Edited by itsalovelycolour on Sunday 23 April 22:11

radron

237 posts

262 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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Hi all

Ive booked myself up for track time and tuition but Im really worried that Ill be bringing it home on the back of a lowloader

Sorry to hijack the thread!!! all this talk of Rms, cracked heads etc are making me feel very nervous...

nervous

24,050 posts

231 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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radron said:
all this talk of Rms, cracked heads etc are making me feel nervous...



listen, we spoke about this: i like you, i just dont think of you that way. im sorry.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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nervous said:
radron said:
all this talk of Rms, cracked heads etc are making me feel nervous...



listen, we spoke about this: i like you, i just dont think of you that way. im sorry.


since when have you become shy?

ps - yhm (in 5 mins)

>> Edited by sleep envy on Sunday 23 April 23:15

nervous

24,050 posts

231 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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im not shy, im sore.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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Preparation H is your friend

nervous

24,050 posts

231 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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oh yes, now you tell me.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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oh yeah, and dab don't wipe

radron

237 posts

262 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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Preparation H

Yes much better on the (W)hole!

nervous

24,050 posts

231 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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how long have you been waiting to use that joke?