Another OPC question - prices....

Another OPC question - prices....

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redleicester

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6,869 posts

246 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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Not sure why I'm risking another question, as my last one turned into a six-page flamefest, but here goes.

Having decided to go for a Cayenne S, I'm currently hunting around for one to my desired spec. Once this is dealt with, I shall also be considering a 996 of some flavour. My local OPC has been very courteous and helpful, and I have even had several responses to questions direct from Porsche GB which suprised me. One of note, which I have kept was the concept that I could take a private or indy purchased car into the OPC for a checkover which, assuming it passed, would then allow me to put a full Porsche warranty on it. Good news methinks.

However, being the cautious type with a brand I have little experience of, I am tempted to buy from a dealer. The thing is, for a Cayenne S (and quite possibly for other models, I haven't checked) the dealer markup seems ridiculous. For a normal £30k car, I would expect private sale at £27-28k, indy at £30k and main dealer £30-32 or so. It would seem an equivalent Cayenne S is going to be somewhere north of £40k! eek

The best car I have found is at an indy, who have already offered off their own back to take the car to an OPC to have the check done before I commit, which would obviously give me peace of mind. Once again, assuming it passes, with the £900 for the Porsche warranty, that would put me in the car for over ten thousand pounds less than a dealer price. What on earth am I missing here, or are they just wandering around with a ludicrous markup?

Fidgits

17,202 posts

230 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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shout Kevin.

In a word, yes, it appears that OPC prices are hugely inflated over what they pay for cars.

kennyboy

639 posts

240 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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possible solution:

take your time, become more familiar with the marque and the market, read all about reputable indi's on here and other forums....thus reducing the perceived risk in buying from an Indi and then.......buy from an Indi?

redleicester

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6,869 posts

246 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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kennyboy said:
possible solution:

take your time, become more familiar with the marque and the market, read all about reputable indi's on here and other forums....thus reducing the perceived risk in buying from an Indi and then.......buy from an Indi?


Therein lies my plan, was just concerned there was some as-yet undiscovered benefit in buying from a dealer.... silly me.... I should have known they're all thieving sods

kennyboy

639 posts

240 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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redleicester said:
kennyboy said:
possible solution:

take your time, become more familiar with the marque and the market, read all about reputable indi's on here and other forums....thus reducing the perceived risk in buying from an Indi and then.......buy from an Indi?


Therein lies my plan, was just concerned there was some as-yet undiscovered benefit in buying from a dealer.... silly me.... I should have known they're all thieving sods


ha ha yeah that does seem to becoming the general consensus among us enthusiasts more and more - lets just hope it eventually overflows to the non-enthusiast Porsche buyer and OPC's start losing volume sales to the indi's.

kayc

4,492 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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redleicester said:
Not sure why I'm risking another question, as my last one turned into a six-page flamefest, but here goes.

Having decided to go for a Cayenne S, I'm currently hunting around for one to my desired spec. Once this is dealt with, I shall also be considering a 996 of some flavour. My local OPC has been very courteous and helpful, and I have even had several responses to questions direct from Porsche GB which suprised me. One of note, which I have kept was the concept that I could take a private or indy purchased car into the OPC for a checkover which, assuming it passed, would then allow me to put a full Porsche warranty on it. Good news methinks.

However, being the cautious type with a brand I have little experience of, I am tempted to buy from a dealer. The thing is, for a Cayenne S (and quite possibly for other models, I haven't checked) the dealer markup seems ridiculous. For a normal £30k car, I would expect private sale at £27-28k, indy at £30k and main dealer £30-32 or so. It would seem an equivalent Cayenne S is going to be somewhere north of £40k! eek

The best car I have found is at an indy, who have already offered off their own back to take the car to an OPC to have the check done before I commit, which would obviously give me peace of mind. Once again, assuming it passes, with the £900 for the Porsche warranty, that would put me in the car for over ten thousand pounds less than a dealer price. What on earth am I missing here, or are they just wandering around with a ludicrous markup?
A mate of mine bought a Cayenne s for £40k from an OPC,found it too juicy so wanted to out it after six months..31k bid was the answer..im surprised you have found the Independent dealers much cheaper though because their margins are huge as wellsoapbox

redleicester

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6,869 posts

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Wednesday 31st January 2007
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Interesting about the indies, I have found two cars with virtually the same spec and mileage around the £30k mark.... both indies. Not found one privately at all yet to the same spec, despite monitoring both here and Autotrader. Dealer prices remain north of £40k in order to pay for their branded Porsche champagne flutes in which they appear to serve Sunny Delight.

fastfreddy

8,577 posts

238 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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There. I've put in a fire break for you so this thread can be flame-free from now on




















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sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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2nd Feb

redleicester

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Wednesday 31st January 2007
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sleep envy said:
2nd Feb


Erm... that's two days time.... nuts

kayc

4,492 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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redleicester said:
Interesting about the indies, I have found two cars with virtually the same spec and mileage around the £30k mark.... both indies. Not found one privately at all yet to the same spec, despite monitoring both here and Autotrader. Dealer prices remain north of £40k in order to pay for their branded Porsche champagne flutes in which they appear to serve Sunny Delight.
Its tough when there are few cars privately to look at because you are relying on the delaer prices only,however if these indies are offering at 30k just imagine what they paid for themeek

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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redleicester said:
sleep envy said:
2nd Feb


Erm... that's two days time.... nuts


is it?

redleicester

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sleep envy said:
redleicester said:
sleep envy said:
2nd Feb


Erm... that's two days time.... nuts


is it?


Erm.... think so. Not sure. And encumbered with a two week old baby, I share you envy of anyone who gets to close their eyes for more than 30 seconds at a time! sleep

redleicester

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Wednesday 31st January 2007
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kayc said:
redleicester said:
Interesting about the indies, I have found two cars with virtually the same spec and mileage around the £30k mark.... both indies. Not found one privately at all yet to the same spec, despite monitoring both here and Autotrader. Dealer prices remain north of £40k in order to pay for their branded Porsche champagne flutes in which they appear to serve Sunny Delight.
Its tough when there are few cars privately to look at because you are relying on the delaer prices only,however if these indies are offering at 30k just imagine what they paid for themeek


Agreed, it is a little scary.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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redleicester said:
sleep envy said:
redleicester said:
sleep envy said:
2nd Feb


Erm... that's two days time.... nuts


is it?


Erm.... think so. Not sure.


hehe

perfect, just perfect

968csreading

3,030 posts

219 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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Is one of the cars from Northway, they have a nice one at the moment and OPC Reading is only up the road.

www.northwayporsche.co.uk/car_sales/car.asp?ModelName=968+/+928+/+944+and+Cayenne

968csreading

3,030 posts

219 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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Is one of the cars from Northway, they have a nice one at the moment and OPC Reading is only up the road.

www.northwayporsche.co.uk/car_sales/car.asp?ModelName=968+/+928+/+944+and+Cayenne

redleicester

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Wednesday 31st January 2007
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Is there an echo in here? Will check it out.

redleicester

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Wednesday 31st January 2007
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Damn, no air-suspension, xenons or multifunction wheel

As an aside, anyone know if you can retro-fit the rear side window blinds?

paracetamol

4,226 posts

245 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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Why do you want a Cayanne????? Personally I feel that you should pay the OPC margin- treat it as a "stupidity tax"