almost a 730d owner
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Simond001 said:
Hi chaps.
Looking at a 06 730d.
Are their any known faults that i need to consider. Are they generally a good car.
had a '99 7 series and the engine went pop at 100k. Looking at a 30,000 mile car, will come with a BMW warranty.
Any advise very welcome.
Dont pay more than £18K for one off a main dealer would be my advice.Looking at a 06 730d.
Are their any known faults that i need to consider. Are they generally a good car.
had a '99 7 series and the engine went pop at 100k. Looking at a 30,000 mile car, will come with a BMW warranty.
Any advise very welcome.
Also 730d engine should be sturdy enough as its been around ages.
Simond001 said:
Bargain!Both are going to be out of warranty after the 1 year AUC so I would go for this one.
http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/auc/car_details/0,,1260...
http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/auc/car_details/0,,1260...
ipwn said:
How much mileage do you do?
Would have been tempted with getting a petrol....
Sure you can get a 05 735 750 in that budget.
Unless you are doing silly miles!
Getting 30mpg+ as opposed to maybe 18mpg will mean you'll save significantly at the pumps from day one. Plus neither a 750i nor a 730i would be cheaper to buy so there is no other cost saving there to offset the fuel. Also come resale time with a 730d you've a sporting chance of getting a home for it.Would have been tempted with getting a petrol....
Sure you can get a 05 735 750 in that budget.
Unless you are doing silly miles!
I take it you went for a BMW with a large petrol engine yourself then?
Edited by pgilc1 on Saturday 13th December 16:18
Simond001 said:
Nice choice. If they'd been avail at that price in June when i bought my 535d i'd have had one instead for definite.Olf said:
Both are going to be out of warranty after the 1 year AUC so I would go for this one.
http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/auc/car_details/0,,1260...
Both cars will have the remainder of their manufacturers warranty, not the AUC warranty. Afterwhich you can extend the warranty anyway. Something i'll probably do with my 535d come next may.http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/auc/car_details/0,,1260...
pgilc1 said:
ipwn said:
How much mileage do you do?
Would have been tempted with getting a petrol....
Sure you can get a 05 735 750 in that budget.
Unless you are doing silly miles!
Getting 30mpg+ as opposed to maybe 18mpg will mean you'll save significantly at the pumps from day one. Plus neither a 750i nor a 730i would be cheaper to buy so there is no other cost saving there to offset the fuel. Also come resale time with a 730d you've a sporting chance of getting a home for it.Would have been tempted with getting a petrol....
Sure you can get a 05 735 750 in that budget.
Unless you are doing silly miles!
I take it you went for a BMW with a large petrol engine yourself then?
Edited by pgilc1 on Saturday 13th December 16:18
You telling me a 730d is going to be the same price as the 730i
a 2003 730d with around 90k on the clock is going to cost in the region of 10.5k looking around autotrader as a very rough guide.
a 2003 735i with 90k on the clock is going to cost around 8k. These figues are a very rough generalisation but you get the idea.
You can pick up 23 ish mpg compared to the diesel which will be around 33 mark. ( again i will stress the figures above are extremely rough but lets assume 2.5k is the rough difference) Lets say the op does 15k a year.
730d = £2064.34 a year
735i = £2606.10 a year
£600 difference
So to make that initial 2.5k difference worth it he will have to wait around 4 years to make it worth it. Assuming there arent any extra running costs due to turbos going etc.
35i will also provide an extra 60 odd bhp I think. And I imagine it will be alot quieter
Wow actually looking at it I could get a 740li 55k 2003 for around 10k , 730 equiv is £13-14k
Edited by ipwn on Saturday 13th December 20:50
ipwn said:
Diesels suffer from far too many common faults like turbos, swirl flaps etc etc as apposed to the similar petrol variant.
Petrols have their problems too. Plus i've seen diesel cars with starship miles and no major problems.ipwn said:
You telling me a 730d is going to be the same price as the 730i
a 2003 730d with around 90k on the clock is going to cost in the region of 10.5k looking around autotrader as a very rough guide.
a 2003 735i with 90k on the clock is going to cost around 8k. These figues are a very rough generalisation but you get the idea.
Yup. I dont think you can compare relatively high mileage older petrol cars from at best a small time trader or at worst a private sale with no warranty with what the o/p has bought ie, a AUC 2006 car. 2006 7 series petrol prices are there or there abouts with 2006 diesel car prices from a main dealer, which is the ONLY way to buy them in my opinion.a 2003 730d with around 90k on the clock is going to cost in the region of 10.5k looking around autotrader as a very rough guide.
a 2003 735i with 90k on the clock is going to cost around 8k. These figues are a very rough generalisation but you get the idea.
ipwn said:
You can pick up 23 ish mpg compared to the diesel which will be around 33 mark. ( again i will stress the figures above are extremely rough but lets assume 2.5k is the rough difference) Lets say the op does 15k a year.
730d = £2064.34 a year
735i = £2606.10 a year
£600 difference
So to make that initial 2.5k difference worth it he will have to wait around 4 years to make it worth it. Assuming there arent any extra running costs due to turbos going etc.
As prices are actually similar for 2006 cars, then over that timeframe the O/P will SAVE £2400 over the petrol variant, and thats not including the fact that in four years time he will be more popular if he had AIDS turning up on a dealers forecourt with a 6yo big engined petrol dinosaur.730d = £2064.34 a year
735i = £2606.10 a year
£600 difference
So to make that initial 2.5k difference worth it he will have to wait around 4 years to make it worth it. Assuming there arent any extra running costs due to turbos going etc.
ipwn said:
35i will also provide an extra 60 odd bhp I think. And I imagine it will be alot quieter
You can imagine all you like. I would believe in real world driving the d will be no less quiet than the i. Check out Clarksons review of the 535d against the 540i. - a car less well insulated that the 7 series.I also think the torque advantage of the d will offset the BHP difference in the real world.
ipwn said:
Wow actually looking at it I could get a 740li 55k 2003 for around 10k , 730 equiv is £13-14k
Can we compare like with like here? The O/P is looking for (and has bought an 06 car) not a five year old one. All you've done is prove how much better his choice of diesel car will hold its value against the petrol car in three years time. Thanks!Edited by ipwn on Saturday 13th December 20:50[/footnote]
[footnote]Edited by pgilc1 on Saturday 13th December 22:02Edited by pgilc1 on Saturday 13th December 22:03
Well you can pick up a 2006 730d with around 40k on it for 18k, you can also pick up a 2006 750i with the same mileage for 14k.....or a 730i for around 15k.. I know which one I would go for 
My post was based around the fact this is really incorrect.
"Plus neither a 750i nor a 730i would be cheaper to buy so there is no other cost saving there to offset the fuel"
My post was based around the fact this is really incorrect.
"Plus neither a 750i nor a 730i would be cheaper to buy so there is no other cost saving there to offset the fuel"
Edited by ipwn on Saturday 13th December 23:14
ipwn said:
Well you can pick up a 2006 730d with around 40k on it for 18k, you can also pick up a 2006 750i with the same mileage for 14k.....or a 730i for around 15k.. I know which one I would go for
My post was based around the fact this is really incorrect.
"Plus neither a 750i nor a 730i would be cheaper to buy so there is no other cost saving there to offset the fuel"
Sorry, where on BMW AUC can you buy an 06 750i for £14000? Cheapest on there is actually £18995.My post was based around the fact this is really incorrect.
"Plus neither a 750i nor a 730i would be cheaper to buy so there is no other cost saving there to offset the fuel"
Edited by ipwn on Saturday 13th December 23:14
Cheapest on Autotrader is from Big Motoring World - that horrifying dealer that is commented on here regularly and keeps starship mileage ex auction cars - at £14700. Oh, and they didnt list the mileage.
Or is that 750i your mate saw in passing at an auction a couple of weeks ago and told you about it last night purely by chance. Or did you read about it somewhere on the internet, so it must be true?
The o/p bought his 730d from a BMW dealer at two years old. Can you therefore compare like with like and show me the equivalent 730i / 750i in the dealer network?
Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 14th December 10:48
ipwn said:
Well you can pick up a 2006 730d with around 40k on it for 18k, you can also pick up a 2006 750i with the same mileage for 14k.....or a 730i for around 15k.. I know which one I would go for
My post was based around the fact this is really incorrect.
"Plus neither a 750i nor a 730i would be cheaper to buy so there is no other cost saving there to offset the fuel"
Of course i would expect you to drive a large engined petrol car saying as you seem to be advising that in this case. I take it you do actually practice what you preach?My post was based around the fact this is really incorrect.
"Plus neither a 750i nor a 730i would be cheaper to buy so there is no other cost saving there to offset the fuel"
Edited by ipwn on Saturday 13th December 23:14
So for example, hypothetically of course, if you drove a 3 series, i take it would be a 330i, given how much you're preaching to the o/p and the rest of us about the merits of large engined petrol BMW's.
Can you confirm thats the case for us?
Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 14th December 10:51
Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 14th December 10:51
pgilc1 said:
ipwn said:
Well you can pick up a 2006 730d with around 40k on it for 18k, you can also pick up a 2006 750i with the same mileage for 14k.....or a 730i for around 15k.. I know which one I would go for
My post was based around the fact this is really incorrect.
"Plus neither a 750i nor a 730i would be cheaper to buy so there is no other cost saving there to offset the fuel"
Of course i would expect you to drive a large engined petrol car saying as you seem to be advising that in this case. I take it you do actually practice what you preach?My post was based around the fact this is really incorrect.
"Plus neither a 750i nor a 730i would be cheaper to buy so there is no other cost saving there to offset the fuel"
Edited by ipwn on Saturday 13th December 23:14
So for example, hypothetically of course, if you drove a 3 series, i take it would be a 330i, given how much you're preaching to the o/p and the rest of us about the merits of large engined petrol BMW's.
Can you confirm thats the case for us?
Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 14th December 10:51
Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 14th December 10:51
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