Which Club?

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smiller

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11,773 posts

206 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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Been looking to join one of the Jag owners clubs, and was wondering if anyone here is a member of either the JEC or the Jaguar Drivers Club and what their experiences are (good & bad).

Advice appreciated!

Cheers.



a8hex

5,830 posts

225 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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I think there are some other threads on this subject.

I've owned a Jag since 96, but it wasn't until I bought my XK150 I felt the need to join one of the clubs.

For the original XKs there is the XK Club, which I joined and I greatly enjoy the monthly Gazette, I'd love to get more involved in their activities but I have a young family so jaunting off to St Petersburgh or off wine tasting round the odd French Chateaux isn't a workable idea at the moment.

I then also joined the JEC and JDC. In this area, the Thames Valley Region, there doesn't appear to be any real activity from the JDC, so after a year I left. The Thames Valley Region of the JDC on the other hand is fairly active and I go to the meetings when I can, and several of the events.

The other local club I've been too has been the Oxford Classic Motor Club, which I think is also part of, or associated with the JEC.

In other areas of the Country the situation is reversed and the JDC is the more active. There is at least one JDC regular who dwells in this forum, there are a few JEC member.

If you've got a newer XK (XK8 or XKR) then there is also a club dedicated to them. I'm sure one of their members will be along soon to give more details.

So it might depend on where abouts in the country you are based, what sort of Jaguars you are interested in and the kind of events you'd more enjoy.

yannon

109 posts

210 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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I have been a member of both clubs.Unless you own a classic Jag you will not be fully accepted in my humble opinion.

piquet

614 posts

259 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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it's sad to say, it depends on what car you have

i've been a member of both clubs and have had business dealing with both of them along with the e-type and xk club

they're both useful for the cheap insurance they offer, although how cheap you could get it without is always a question and if it pays for itself

they both suffer from the problem they are filled with egos and self appointed experts, some who either have undisclosed financial interests or who's entire lifestyle is dependent on their position in the clubs. Hence articles can be more about self interest then interest to club members.

both the jec and jdc are dependent of advertising revenue and so don;t expect any article or information that might threaten that lucrative stream, it's the reason there are never comparative tests of products or warnings of poor parts

the jec seem to do more to help produce parts and seem to produce more hands on technical information, they seem to be more set up for people working on their cars, they seem to have more information for the 80's and 90's models the jdc seems to have more interest in the more classic models

both magazines are barely 10 minutes reading

if it's for your daimler, i'd jojn the jec

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

212 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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I've been a long term member, over 20 years, of the JEC - not really because I'm a "clubby" sort of person - frankly I think there's a lot of people in any largish club, regardless of whether it's a sailing, cars, wine or anything else - who really need to get a life.

But there's a lot of technicial backup available - and a years subscription, which you need to pay to get it - costs less than an hour's labour at the local Main Stealer. I often don't bother to read any of the magazine, apart from the classifieds for several days after it arrives, and never go to any of the shows or events. Standing in a wet field spending all morning arguing about the merits of different car polish really isn't me I'm afraid.

Since I've been a member the JEC seems to have evolved out of all recognition, and is now run like a highly profitable buisness with several vested interests first and a Jaguar club second - but that's just my opinion. You may see it in a different light, I guess it just depends on what you're looking for.

smiller

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11,773 posts

206 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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yannon said:
I have been a member of both clubs.Unless you own a classic Jag you will not be fully accepted in my humble opinion.
That's interesting, as my current p & j is a late 80's XJ40 (good nick, but not concourse).

Looking in more depth at the JDC site, the local area has regular meets at a pub not too far from me and another member has a XJ40 (albeit the XJR). What I'm really wary of is what my Father In Law has experienced with his Porsche. He's got a rare 930 Turbo SE Flat-Nose, and he favours the Independant Porsche Club over the Porsche GB Club; nicer people, he says.


a8hex

5,830 posts

225 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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smiller said:
yannon said:
I have been a member of both clubs.Unless you own a classic Jag you will not be fully accepted in my humble opinion.
That's interesting, as my current p & j is a late 80's XJ40 (good nick, but not concourse).

Looking in more depth at the JDC site, the local area has regular meets at a pub not too far from me and another member has a XJ40 (albeit the XJR). What I'm really wary of is what my Father In Law has experienced with his Porsche. He's got a rare 930 Turbo SE Flat-Nose, and he favours the Independant Porsche Club over the Porsche GB Club; nicer people, he says.
The only thing is to go along and talk to people. XJ40s will be quite common in both clubs. If you've got a JDC on the door step go and chat to them.

NormanD

3,208 posts

230 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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As I don't know what area you live in the UK I click on this link http://www.jaguar-enthusiasts.org.uk/regions.html

That will bring up all the JEC area meetings

If you are interested in joining you can then go to this link. http://www.jaguar-enthusiasts.org.uk/register.html

I have been a member of the JEC for a number of years.
They seem to arrange numerous events that I enjoy.
Infact our Surrey area have there Surrey Jaguar Day this Sunday at Painshill Cobham

markgregory1

117 posts

252 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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Our club is called the XK8 / XKR Enthusiasts Club (XKEC for short).
For details see www.xkec.co.uk


NormanD

3,208 posts

230 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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markgregory1 said:
Our club is called the XK8 / XKR Enthusiasts Club (XKEC for short).
For details see www.xkec.co.uk
I agree a great Club for X8s and Rs but I don't think he has one of our cars.

growlerkat

50 posts

195 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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I'm a member of the JEC still even though I sold my XJ-S 5 years ago. I used to go to meetings & events partly because of the diversity of the cars and the friendliness of the people. I read the magazine because I am still interested in the cars and the discount on the insurance helps! I did sometimes feel abit of a square peg because my car wasn't concours,I was a girl and probably one of the youngest there!! Maybe go along and see what you think-enjoy your car!

smiller

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11,773 posts

206 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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I understand that the local (this is a local Jag club for local Jag people hehe) JDG Club meet quite regularly near me, so I'll probably pop along for a chat. Not sure what to expect as - looking at the area gallery - there are quite a few good looking E-Types and a MK IV. Encouragingly, there is another member with a XJ40 (XJR).

Thinking aloud, which club does the better European Tours? Quite often I think about taking the old girl to the continent.

Thanks for the advice so far, BTW thumbup



lowdrag

12,951 posts

215 months

Friday 1st August 2008
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As a JDC member and an ex-JEC member of 30 years standing I think you really have to take pot luck as far as each region is concerned. In some areas one club is stronger and vice-versa. I've just spent the weekend at Silverstone and the organisers (wisely in my book) put all Jaguar clubs together including the Challenger replicars and we all had a good time. At grass roots level we are just ordinary people and it is at the higher levels that the grumbles between clubs occur. The JDC does tours but so does the JEC although some of theirs are long ones (the diamond tour of South Africa for example in 2000) and very expensive (£10,000). The JDC does weekend tours but the problem is that this club is divided into registers for each type so they tend to concentrate on that type of car; the XK register, E type, SS and so on. Interestingly, after resisting this since their foundation, it seems the JEC are to some degree moving the same way. No, I don't think it really is a choice of club here but which one is strongest in your area. Neither the JDC nor the JEC put on tours to Le Mans for the Classic so I arranged hotels for JDC members and plans are already afoot for 2010 having discussed the problems and niggles and we seem to already have a concensus for the future including interior parking, the ferries, and the type of hotel accomodation which would be suitable. The JEC might come back but who knows? If you want any more help email me but I stick with my original suggestion - get to know people, see which group you like, and go with that club in your area. The most important thing is that whichever you choose you'll find like minded people who know where things can get put right or even assist themselves.

smiller

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11,773 posts

206 months

Friday 1st August 2008
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lowdrag said:
Some great stuff
I'll pop along to some local meets, and gauge opinion both ways. But - at the moment - I'm edging towards JDC.......

NormanD

3,208 posts

230 months

Saturday 2nd August 2008
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smiller said:
Thinking aloud, which club does the better European Tours? Quite often I think about taking the old girl to the continent.
I have been on some of the JEC European Tours, they range from a long weekend to 7-10 day affairs.

Did you have a look at the link I posted earier of all the JEC meetings in the UK. Was there any near you?

smiller

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11,773 posts

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Saturday 2nd August 2008
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NormanD said:
smiller said:
Thinking aloud, which club does the better European Tours? Quite often I think about taking the old girl to the continent.
I have been on some of the JEC European Tours, they range from a long weekend to 7-10 day affairs.

Did you have a look at the link I posted earier of all the JEC meetings in the UK. Was there any near you?
Yes. There is a "Four Crosses" JEC meet tomorrow (I assume, without any other details, it's at Four Crosses near Alderbury on the Shropshire / Wales border). Can't make it as I've been invited to the TIPEC meet at Gaydon. JDC meet regularly at The Bell at Tong near me also. It seems like there is quite a bit of activity from both clubs in my area thumbup

Myobb

175 posts

224 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Used to belong to the JDC but had real problems with an influential member of the Club who supposedly repaired my E-Type. Subsequently I complained to a Board Director who claimed my complaints were "actionable" & threatened to sue me.I resigned from the Club in disgust & have been a satisfied member of the JEC ever since.

lowdrag

12,951 posts

215 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Myobb said:
Used to belong to the JDC but had real problems with an influential member of the Club who supposedly repaired my E-Type. Subsequently I complained to a Board Director who claimed my complaints were "actionable" & threatened to sue me.I resigned from the Club in disgust & have been a satisfied member of the JEC ever since.
For every dissatisfied member of any club there is an equal number of another club. I frankly don't go in for your argument that one person makes the club untenable. We are all different and I am sure that there are likes and dislikes between us all. A club isn't a commercial organisation and your complaint should have been directed to the person who worked on your car, even through the courts if necessary. The club surely can't be held responsible, can it? Blaming the club is a non-starter.

Myobb

175 posts

224 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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What drivel! Why respond when you dont know the facts? I complained both to responsible person who is prominent in JDC affairs & a Board Director to no avail & was then threatened with legal action by the former. Nor do you apparently know how the JDC & the JEC are run. Both are commercial operations owned by the Directors. However the former are more responsive & responsible while the latter suffers from declining membership & is riven by petty jelousies.. Incidently with 1273 posts in 25 months I suggest less (considerably) is better particularly when one is uniformed on the subject.

bigdavy

1,085 posts

209 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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A vote for the JEC here, the JDC in my area are simply unapproachable. I'm not going to get into a debate about it though. I would agree that you should try both in your area and decide from there.

For what its worth i think the JEC magazine is very good and they have excellent technical advice if needed.