Lots of brand new Porsches immediately available

[Vroomer]

981Boxess said:

If I were to configure a new Boxster 4.0 to my (as opposed to dealer bloating) requirements that would be less than £85k. For me to buy a new one already sitting around to the wrong spec it would have to be less, regardless of how many options it has. A car to my exact spec is worth more to me than one that isn’t.

Exactly. Options you don't want are worth nothing to you.

[SkinnyPete]

Vroomer said:

Now 48 new 718 Boxster/Caymans available, but cheapest Boxster is £64k and cheapest Boxster S is £77k – that's why they're not selling.

I love the Boxster and Cayman range, but that is just silly money.

[Vroomer]

SkinnyPete said:

I love the Boxster and Cayman range, but that is just silly money.

Occasionally, base spec ones come up and they sell in a day or two.

[Ed.Neumann]

Newcastle had a late 981 S PDK for £33k the other week, I think the mileage was around 45k?

It was not there on the Sunday, I saw it at 9.30am Monday, thought about it for an hour and managed to call around 11ish and I was 5th in the queue for it. Never heard back obviously.

Cars priced right will sell.

[stewieyan]

Vroomer said:

Now 48 new 718 Boxster/Caymans available, but cheapest Boxster is £64k and cheapest Boxster S is £77k – that's why they're not selling.

Basically they now advertise a basic Boxster almost at the same price as a basic Boxster GTS 4.0 two years ago.

[andrew]

stewieyan said:

Vroomer said:

Now 48 new 718 Boxster/Caymans available, but cheapest Boxster is £64k and cheapest Boxster S is £77k – that's why they're not selling.

Basically they now advertise a basic Boxster almost at the same price as a basic Boxster GTS 4.0 two years ago.

google "inflation"

[col68]

Been talking to a few dealers over the last couple of days about stock 718 GT4’s and new 718 GTS, they are still fairly bullish, with only a couple of k discount offered off of their sometimes over list prices if at all.

[LamedonM]

Inflation is coming down. So they would be more optimistic

[soxboy]

stewieyan said:

Vroomer said:

Now 48 new 718 Boxster/Caymans available, but cheapest Boxster is £64k and cheapest Boxster S is £77k – that's why they're not selling.

Basically they now advertise a basic Boxster almost at the same price as a basic Boxster GTS 4.0 two years ago.

A basic Boxster is £55k list, before options and on the road charges.

[Chemical Ali]

LamedonM said:

Inflation is coming down. So they would be more optimistic

It will stay high for a while. I wouldn't bet on too much movement on rates for a while, probably second half of next year.

Dealers are always bullish. You cant tell a potential buyer not to buy can you?

[Sukh13]

LamedonM said:

Inflation is coming down. So they would be more optimistic

Still more than double the target though....

[911hope]

Chemical Ali said:

Dealers are always bullish. You cant tell a potential buyer not to buy can you?

Indeed..ever experience a sales person saying it's hards to sell the product in a conversation with a customer?

[981Boxess]

LamedonM said:

Inflation is coming down. So they would be more optimistic

Has it(?), until people start to feel like it has, as opposed to being told it has, I doubt anyone is going to rush out buying cars they don’t really need any time soon, certainly not this year.

[Pflanzgarten]

Sukh13 said:

LamedonM said:

Inflation is coming down. So they would be more optimistic

Still more than double the target though....

The BOE are ahead of their target, and certainly on track to get down to 2% by 2026.

[981Boxess]

Pflanzgarten said:

Sukh13 said:

LamedonM said:

Inflation is coming down. So they would be more optimistic

Still more than double the target though....

The BOE are ahead of their target, and certainly on track to get down to 2% by 2026.

I dare say there will be some out there that actually believe that.

[Chemical Ali]

981Boxess said:

LamedonM said:

Inflation is coming down. So they would be more optimistic

Has it(?), until people start to feel like it has, as opposed to being told it has, I doubt anyone is going to rush out buying cars they don’t really need any time soon, certainly not this year.

People will start to feel more enthusiastic when finance/ interest rates begin to drop. That may be some time.

[Leithen]

Chemical Ali said:

981Boxess said:

LamedonM said:

Inflation is coming down. So they would be more optimistic

Has it(?), until people start to feel like it has, as opposed to being told it has, I doubt anyone is going to rush out buying cars they don’t really need any time soon, certainly not this year.

People will start to feel more enthusiastic when finance/ interest rates begin to drop. That may be some time.

We’re likely to track the US with some lag. It will come down, but not us much as many might hope and with bumps.

[Newc]

UK base rate is 5.25%. This is not high. Even if UK inflation is brought back down to 2%, base rates are not coming down.

We'll never see 0% again.

If manufacturers want to incentivise finance rates, they'll have to do it out of their P+L, same as any other price promotion.

[ChrisW.]

Leithen said:

Chemical Ali said:

981Boxess said:

LamedonM said:

Inflation is coming down. So they would be more optimistic

Has it(?), until people start to feel like it has, as opposed to being told it has, I doubt anyone is going to rush out buying cars they don’t really need any time soon, certainly not this year.

People will start to feel more enthusiastic when finance/ interest rates begin to drop. That may be some time.

We’re likely to track the US with some lag. It will come down, but not us much as many might hope and with bumps.

Agreed ... the big effect of the increase in mortgage costs has only just started due to many having fixed rates for 2, 5, 7 or even 10 years. Those with long fixes may only see small increases if rates fail to return to their recent historical low levels ... as for the rest, the increases will hit and by degree. This will be the biggest hit to peoples' pockets and lenders will move heaven and earth to keep people in their homes, worrying about default and potential negative equity ...

As for cars, following years of oversupply it's my belief that residuals must fall ... will they recover and if so to what level ?

All of this has a massive affect on affordability ... and there would appear to be very little good news on the economy ...

[HammyHamster]

Newc said:

UK base rate is 5.25%. This is not high. Even if UK inflation is brought back down to 2%, base rates are not coming down.

We'll never see 0% again.

Lol. Wouldn't be too sure about that.