Classics dwarfed by moderns

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SpudLink

6,009 posts

194 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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I remember sitting in my Suzuki Cappuccino kei car and looking down at the driver in the Midget. They were dwarfed even by the smallest cars of the '90s.

S2r

679 posts

80 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Spotted in the local Tesco, are Reliants 'classic' though ??

Edited by S2r on Saturday 18th November 21:04

Lefty

16,221 posts

204 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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GTRene

16,810 posts

226 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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lovely to see a RS2000 mk2 between other car, was once my favorite car, had at least 5 of those long time ago all second hand but loved them.

Lefty

16,221 posts

204 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Yup, easy to forget how tiny they are!

V8covin

7,410 posts

195 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Lefty said:
Yup, easy to forget how tiny they are!
I don't think they are, it's just modern cars have got really bloated.
Now my Mini van, THAT'S a small vehiclesmile

GTRene

16,810 posts

226 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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yeah, modern cars are really big, sadly.

btw I love the Black from the RS2000, i only had 3 times a yellow example and 2 times a orange example.

my friend at the time had a red example, his older brother friend had a white one with black vinyl roof.

sadly those days no Internet so searching was a bit harder for your color :-)

if I would buy one ever again, I would choose a for me better color and also more hp, minimum 200hp, yes at the time the 110hp was enough in those days, the weight of such car is not that high, but now used to way more power, I would like a RS2000 with more power and modern suspension and brakes and so on, a sort Restomod RS

Lefty

16,221 posts

204 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Yes indeed. Not difficult to do, zetec or duratec conversion. Zetec 200bhp-ish, duratec can be up to 300bhp NA if you have deep enough pockets or even a Millington.

I have just sold a standard rs2000 have an ongoing project, group 4 shell with big atlas and a duratec.

Of course you could always go new build from MST if you haven’t seen these already? Lovely things.


GTRene

16,810 posts

226 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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@Lefty, yes i know those, nice but since those are new, the tax in say the Netherlands are crazy for such engine, say such car = 100k the because new and such powerful engine = say 60k BPM/Co2 per gr/km on top.

so sadly not done, for around that say 60k BPM(not the 21% btw) alone you can buy a nice Ford Escort with a 200-280 hp engine, not all new, but restored and fast old rebuilt engine.

also personally I do like lightweight, but not a empty car without carpets or sky material and so on, I rather have say 20kg? or so on lightweight carpets and upholstery and lots of race-tec (alcantara) so it looks warm and sounds better, not to cold/raspy.

also difficult, a Escort mk1 or a mk2 rubber nose body hahah, never owned a mk1, I like the classic looks, say like those mk1 wide bodyd models, or maybe in a mk2 with X-pack but to be honest, personally I think I do like the mk1 looks a bit more, why? no idea, more round/classic, more pure? the mk2 wide arches is more build up or fast and furious or kit car ? the mk1 more 'friendly' ?


Mr Tidy

22,727 posts

129 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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I bought a 1978 Escort MK2 RS2000 in Venetian Red in 1983 and still remember how narrow it was. It would often fit through gaps most other cars even from that era wouldn't!

Great fun while I had it, but in 1984 I couldn't resist replacing it with a Capri 2.8 Injection that was much quicker, if not quite as wieldy. But would probably also look small now.

skwdenyer

16,717 posts

242 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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GTRene said:
@Lefty, yes i know those, nice but since those are new, the tax in say the Netherlands are crazy for such engine, say such car = 100k the because new and such powerful engine = say 60k BPM/Co2 per gr/km on top.

so sadly not done, for around that say 60k BPM(not the 21% btw) alone you can buy a nice Ford Escort with a 200-280 hp engine, not all new, but restored and fast old rebuilt engine.

also personally I do like lightweight, but not a empty car without carpets or sky material and so on, I rather have say 20kg? or so on lightweight carpets and upholstery and lots of race-tec (alcantara) so it looks warm and sounds better, not to cold/raspy.

also difficult, a Escort mk1 or a mk2 rubber nose body hahah, never owned a mk1, I like the classic looks, say like those mk1 wide bodyd models, or maybe in a mk2 with X-pack but to be honest, personally I think I do like the mk1 looks a bit more, why? no idea, more round/classic, more pure? the mk2 wide arches is more build up or fast and furious or kit car ? the mk1 more 'friendly' ?

In the Netherlands, can you re-shell a car with a new replacement? In which case, you just need an old rusty scrap Escort + an MST shell?

GTRene

16,810 posts

226 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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skwdenyer said:
In the Netherlands, can you re-shell a car with a new replacement? In which case, you just need an old rusty scrap Escort + an MST shell?
I believe thats possible, then it gets the old chassis-number and same Ford Escort name, so via a creative way it could be done... with say some help from the UK side rolleyeswink

Lefty

16,221 posts

204 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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There are a few places making new bodyshells, Higgins in Ireland (not sure if north or south, Eire might make it easier for you since still EU).

There’s a reason v5’s are so valuable! I saw an RS2000 one sell for £5k on eBay in the last few years.

skwdenyer

16,717 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Lefty said:
There are a few places making new bodyshells, Higgins in Ireland (not sure if north or south, Eire might make it easier for you since still EU).

There’s a reason v5’s are so valuable! I saw an RS2000 one sell for £5k on eBay in the last few years.
We have a thread for those wink

Flumpo

3,851 posts

75 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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No photo as I was driving. But saw mid 90s grand Cherokee in l2 next to a new 1 series in l3.

Wow, I remember Cherokees as being massive in my youth, looked narrow and fragile compared to the ‘little’ hatchback.

BobTurner

397 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Still Mulling

12,641 posts

179 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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It's so narrow!

P5BNij

15,875 posts

108 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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ajprice

27,790 posts

198 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Dermot O'Logical

2,632 posts

131 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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P5BNij said:
I know there's a bit of a wide-angle lens effect there, but that Rover was a really big car in its day.

Some of the pictures in this thread (most of them, in fact) prompt the thought of the consequence of a head-on collision between the cars in the photos.

Still, keep them coming.