Bathroom regrets

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bmwmike

7,025 posts

110 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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MrJuice said:
Depends if it's wet or electric

My bathrooms are small so I opted against UFH on suspended floors and will make do with mats and a towel rail for heat.

On downstairs bathrooms we have solid floors with wet UFH which was easy enough to do but then we were doing the whole ground floor. So a bit more pipe and a bit more screed was not a problem.
Did you dig up the floors to insulate beneath them or were they already insulated? We have solid ground floor concrete floors and the builders have proposed channeling the screed/concrete to put the underloor heating pipes in, seemingly unaware that heat travels downwards in a solid and i've no intention of attempting to heat the entire slab.

MrJuice

3,416 posts

158 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Yep

Exactly that

My void was maybe 400-500mm and it was less in places.

We put mot type 1 I think. Then dpm. Then concrete. Then 100mm insulation. Then pipes and screed.

Some people suggested more than 100mm insulation but that didn't happen for us

dhutch

14,407 posts

199 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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fatboy b said:
wolfracesonic said:
Heated bathroom mirror.
This.
Best thing ever.

I converted some existing mirrors using a heating pad from TLC direct.

If you shave it is so nice to actually be able to see after a shower.

bmwmike

7,025 posts

110 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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MrJuice said:
Yep

Exactly that

My void was maybe 400-500mm and it was less in places.

We put mot type 1 I think. Then dpm. Then concrete. Then 100mm insulation. Then pipes and screed.

Some people suggested more than 100mm insulation but that didn't happen for us
Ah void = suspended?

All my ground floor are solid concrete and I'm being told it's an enormous and risky job to dig out old floors down to the depth required to put modern spec floors in.

MrJuice

3,416 posts

158 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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bmwmike said:
Ah void = suspended?

All my ground floor are solid concrete and I'm being told it's an enormous and risky job to dig out old floors down to the depth required to put modern spec floors in.
No idea about that

Did they say what the risk was?

You might want to start a new thread and ask about that. Or try buildhub. Especially if your decision hinges on this

lrdisco

1,459 posts

89 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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No risk but you need to check the depths of your existing foundations as on older houses they were often only 300mm deep or less.
To replace a floor the minimum dig is 100mm concrete slab. The uFH can go in this. No need for a screed.
100mm insulation plus dpm.
100mm hardcore.
So potentially you can undermine the foundations.

It is a very expensive task, Time, Labour and materials wise.

Wagonwheel555

828 posts

58 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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We are looking to get our Bathroom replaced in the next 6-12 months and struggling to see how we are going to be without a shower for 2 weeks!

Moving from Electric to mixer so need a pump fitted but they need to get hot feed to where shower is so all needs to be ripped out anyway and three quotes so far have said 'about 2 weeks' without a shower. We have a 4 year old and we both work from home most of the time, without a second bathroom I just don't see how we are going to be able to cope for 2 weeks without moving out and renting an AirBnB etc during the works.


PositronicRay

27,125 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Wagonwheel555 said:
We are looking to get our Bathroom replaced in the next 6-12 months and struggling to see how we are going to be without a shower for 2 weeks!

Moving from Electric to mixer so need a pump fitted but they need to get hot feed to where shower is so all needs to be ripped out anyway and three quotes so far have said 'about 2 weeks' without a shower. We have a 4 year old and we both work from home most of the time, without a second bathroom I just don't see how we are going to be able to cope for 2 weeks without moving out and renting an AirBnB etc during the works.
There was a bloke, maybe on here, who rigged up an outside shower. Best done in the summer months.

Alternatively time it with your annual hols, need a trustworthy fitter though. The only time I've been without a bathroom, I managed showering at the gym.

Best get it booked soon we've been quoted 6 month lead times.

Griffith4ever

4,398 posts

37 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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If installing a spa bath with an air blower , put the blower through the wall in the room next door. I put mine in the utility room and it transforms it from a noisy novelty to a luxurious experience. The water pumps are generally quiet enough to have under the bath but not the air blowers.

I like a lot of baths.

Danns

299 posts

61 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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At the time - herringbone marble tiles! We found them an absolute pig to install and try and get perfect. Would have probably gone for large format bottom and sheeted mosaic for upper half of wall in the shower looking back.

I will eventually be putting an en-suite in, massive regret of not doing this first before ripping the bathroom out, did all the work myself, ended up without a shower/bath facilities for 3 months, this didn’t go down well given the little one was 6 months old at the time.

Also wasted a lot of money of trying to find the perfect pottery pan connector, not worth it, relies on putty to seal, just go mcalpine plastic instead.

Read through and took on board a lot from this thread before starting.
Heated mirror and “summer” towel rail probably the stand out glad I did it, wet UFH does take a long time to get going however.

Also if going diy and have a lot of cuts, get yourself a wet sliding tile saw.

Before and not quite finished after (window detail almost finished);




Edited by Danns on Tuesday 21st November 07:49

stevemcs

8,721 posts

95 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Steel bath, we have one. Should have gone with plastic as it makes the room cold, oh and under floor heating should have had that too.

mikeiow

5,482 posts

132 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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stevemcs said:
Steel bath, we have one. Should have gone with plastic as it makes the room cold, oh and under floor heating should have had that too.
We had electric UFH during one refurb many years ago: kitchen and shower room.
What a mistake: it cost a fortune (even back then!) eek
That is the problem with retro-fit, when you cannot ensure the slab below is well insulated.
Most recent refurb we righted that wrong. The shower room has bath mats down to save cold feet…

I do appreciate views may vary, but for a sunroom extension more recently, we were able to put wet UFH in, linked to the main boiler. That works a treat: night & day for running costs thumbup


cptsideways

13,573 posts

254 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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I fitted electric underfloor heating under the tiles in the upstairs bathroom, it's brilliant, simple and quite effective. Cost about £120 from memory. Came with a timer control that will take a week to program but it's actually pretty simple. Far nicer than my freezing cold Victorian downstairs gentleman's boudoir lol


Purosangue

1,005 posts

15 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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bidet toilet

cuts down on toilet rolls

3xAAA

159 posts

41 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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LandieMark said:
I really regret not having an electric element installed in the towel rail for the summer when the heating isn't on.
I'm struggling to see why so many people rate these?

In the winter, a heated towel rail is a no-brainer, but in the summer, things dry pretty quickly naturally.


dhutch

14,407 posts

199 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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3xAAA said:
I'm struggling to see why so many people rate these?

In the winter, a heated towel rail is a no-brainer, but in the summer, things dry pretty quickly naturally.
I can see the value in it for an two months of the year, mid-September and April, when it's warm enough the heating isn't, but damp enough towels don't dry. At which point a preprig hour of injecting 300w behind a well covered rad would be beneficial.

That said, although we have a loop of ring main nearby, we don't currently have one and survive just fine.

Certainly I wouldn't have an electric only towel rail, it would be a duel-fuel which mainly rad of the CH loop.

sherman

13,454 posts

217 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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3xAAA said:
LandieMark said:
I really regret not having an electric element installed in the towel rail for the summer when the heating isn't on.
I'm struggling to see why so many people rate these?

In the winter, a heated towel rail is a no-brainer, but in the summer, things dry pretty quickly naturally.
Not in Scotland or up North. The air stays humid all summer and not consistantly 20c+ and your towel doesnt dry so you get a cold slightly damp towel each time you shower.

richatnort

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3,036 posts

133 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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For me it’s the smelly towels because smell in the summer because they just don’t dry as fast. In the winter my towel doesn’t smell as it drys much faster

guywilko

107 posts

212 months

Sunday 10th December 2023
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Yes deffo electric element into a wet towel rail via a T connector.

Make sure you mount the towel rail high enough to replace the element by dropping it out from below.

Fit a wifi relay in line.

“Alexa turn bathroom towel rail on for 30 minutes”

MrJuice

3,416 posts

158 months

Sunday 10th December 2023
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My towel rails are on a separate circuit

Bought from zhender outlet shop at -70%!

I don't regret my towel rails at all but if you're yet to buy your towel rails, don't regret later by not buying zhender