The Official England Thread-The Team We All Support [Vol 3]
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tamore said:
Byker28i said:
Alexander Arnold needs to cooling or be subbed.
not sure what he's doing tonight. awful game and doesn't look bothered.Bloody hell, that was one of the most incompetent performances I've seen in a long time. I'm describing the ref by the way, although England weren't much better. Even when the idiot ref got a decision right, by not originally awarding a foul by Lewis - that was never, ever a penalty - he then managed to reverse it! Of course, he didn't give a penalty for Maguire's stupid push on their player earlier on. That one looked much more of a pen, so I suppose they cancel out.
Ah yes, Harry Maguire. An accident waiting to happen. Why Southgate persists with him I cannot fathom, although that applies to Phillips and Henderson too. And what has happened to Rashford? He looks absolutely devoid of confidence.
Ah yes, Harry Maguire. An accident waiting to happen. Why Southgate persists with him I cannot fathom, although that applies to Phillips and Henderson too. And what has happened to Rashford? He looks absolutely devoid of confidence.
RichB said:
tamore said:
starts at the back. you can't have CBs and a GK with suck poor footballing skills
Not sure I'd pick out Pickford for blame. He's not the one playing sideways and back instead of creating something. A completely meaningless game against a poor side when the majority of players in the team have far more important games at the weekend to think about. Not surprised in the slightest that's the performance that was delivered personally, hence why I don't bother with qualifiers.
I have watched the "highlights" this morning though, and the Maguire penalty shout is one of the funniest I've ever seen. Even Southgate can't take a player that bad to a tournament surely?
Clearly a reset against Lewis as that's never a penalty in a million years.
I have watched the "highlights" this morning though, and the Maguire penalty shout is one of the funniest I've ever seen. Even Southgate can't take a player that bad to a tournament surely?
Clearly a reset against Lewis as that's never a penalty in a million years.
Edited by SWoll on Tuesday 21st November 08:07
Slowboathome said:
Foden will look to get the ball to Grealish
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Something I noticed a lot too. Think Ollie Watkins had a raw deal tonight. Every time Foden passed out to Grealish his team mate, not looking for Watkins who was often stood waiting.....
I find Foden an irritating little tt but I'd always have him in the team for his workrate.
Southgate needs to rethink his team but it's really too late now.
Start with Walker, Trippier, Grealish (yes really) Foden, Watkins, possibly Gordon, Lewis maybe in a couple of years.
Edited by Skyedriver on Tuesday 21st November 08:34
Skyedriver said:
Something I noticed a lot too. Think Ollie Watkins had a raw deal tonight. Every time Foden passed out to Grealish his team mate, not looking for Watkins who was often stood waiting.
I find Foden an irritating little tt but I'd always have him in the team for his workrate.
Southgate needs to rethink his team but it's really too late now.
Start with Walker, Trippier, Grealish (yes really) Foden, Watkins, possibly Gordon, Lewis maybe in a couple of years.
Bowen got a raw deal too when he played. To a large extent I think players who are used to each other know what kind of movement/pass to expect. I think that needs to figure in team selection. However I'd also add that I think Alexander-Arnold and Saka are on the same wavelength.I find Foden an irritating little tt but I'd always have him in the team for his workrate.
Southgate needs to rethink his team but it's really too late now.
Start with Walker, Trippier, Grealish (yes really) Foden, Watkins, possibly Gordon, Lewis maybe in a couple of years.
Edited by Skyedriver on Tuesday 21st November 08:34
Speed 3 said:
Slowboathome said:
I'm not a huge fan of Grealish, but he's done a lot more tonight than Rashford against Malta.
Funny, I was just thinking I wouldn't have him on the plane. He's a show pony who can't even really be called a mercurial talent like Le Tiss, Marsh etc. I'd rather have Rashford & Sterling in the squad, they're inconsistent & frustrating but have more overall productive output than Grealish.Maguire.FFS! why have we got him in the team everytime.
Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 21st November 09:38
Grealish has gone backwards for sure, quite literally. It has gotten so bad that we all know he will try beat his man, fail, cut back inside and pass backwards. That channel is no longer an attacking option. Foden had a much better game for England, finally. Burst of pace and then trying to get people away. The subs as expected had zero impact, presumably came on to keep some club managers happy. And Maguire, why oh why. Why play Tomori for one game out of position then continue with this guy.
It is utterly perplexing how GS just doesnt have the conviction or ability to play the best in form players.
It is utterly perplexing how GS just doesnt have the conviction or ability to play the best in form players.
coldel said:
Grealish has gone backwards for sure, quite literally. It has gotten so bad that we all know he will try beat his man, fail, cut back inside and pass backwards. That channel is no longer an attacking option. Foden had a much better game for England, finally. Burst of pace and then trying to get people away. The subs as expected had zero impact, presumably came on to keep some club managers happy. And Maguire, why oh why. Why play Tomori for one game out of position then continue with this guy.
It is utterly perplexing how GS just doesnt have the conviction or ability to play the best in form players.
Sterling is increasingly looking like a good option on the left. Him, Kane and Saka in front of Bellingham Rice and Foden would be quite a front 6. But I suspect it'll be someone more defensively inclined than Foden, in which case I'd go for Lewis. But Southgate will go for Henderson.It is utterly perplexing how GS just doesnt have the conviction or ability to play the best in form players.
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