New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
Discussion
Jon39 said:
1. Any guesses about what TVR might have been storing in their part of the factory?
2. Is this part of the factory, the same part where prototyping work was being/to be undertaken ?
1. All the trophies they 'won' at Le Mans as sponsors?2. Is this part of the factory, the same part where prototyping work was being/to be undertaken ?
2. Yes. The 'wing' as it is being called. The completed part in this old Google pic.
Viper201 said:
1. All the trophies they 'won' at Le Mans as sponsors?
Of all the things they’ve done/haven’t done putting a sponsorship sticker on a car and basking in the dedication and hard work of others is pathetic and distasteful… even disgraceful… makes my blood boil and teeth itch… Peter Wheeler was a rogue but in a way that had an element of honesty to it… lying is acceptable if you do it in an honest fashion. I now have no idea what I’m talking about….Here’s my pickled shallots
Viper201 said:
Jon39 said:
1. Any guesses about what TVR might have been storing in their part of the factory?
2. Is this part of the factory, the same part where prototyping work was being/to be undertaken ?
1. 2. Is this part of the factory, the same part where prototyping work was being/to be undertaken ?
m4tti said:
Right, who’s still got a deposit? what’s your delivery date?
Is bullit still about? He can give us the low down
m4tti, good to hear from you ! I'm still here.Is bullit still about? He can give us the low down
I actually pulled my deposit a few weeks ago and already got my money back. But judging from my recent stock market timing, that can only mean the car will be actually be produced
Still wish them all the best and will quite likely be tempted to get back if they actually build it. Although a lot has changed in the past few years and maybe when (if) the time comes, I'll find out that I'm just done with cars. We'll see, I'm easy.
Viper201 said:
phazed said:
I’d go with that …
Can you put on your lycra gear Peter and pedal on down to Griffith House, Walliswood and tell us all about the exciting stuff that's happening at TVR headquarters? 
Viper201 said:
phazed said:
I’d go with that …
Can you put on your lycra gear Peter and pedal on down to Griffith House, Walliswood and tell us all about the exciting stuff that's happening at TVR headquarters? Saves on storage costs. They were no doubt renting storage, so if the Welsh then offered them some free storage, it makes sense.
It doesn't really show any intent, because they are not producing anything related to "old TVR", so they won't be using anything that they bought from Smolenski.
They probably have his school exercise book with his lines in it, that his mum probably made him write:
"I must do due diligence before I buy a business."
It doesn't really show any intent, because they are not producing anything related to "old TVR", so they won't be using anything that they bought from Smolenski.
They probably have his school exercise book with his lines in it, that his mum probably made him write:
"I must do due diligence before I buy a business."
This is taken from a Pistonheads interview with Les Edgar from 2013:
PH: But you couldn’t even build those cars again, even if you wanted to, right?
LE: “Why couldn’t we build them again? Of course we could. We own everything to do with the cars, we bought everything lock stock and barrel. We can build what we want to build really. The point is not that. The point is we wouldn’t want to relaunch those cars. We’re not building a company on nostalgia. We’re building on what people want to buy. And we understand what people probably want to buy has got a lot to do with the DNA and what they could buy before.
PH: What did the sale include?
LE:“Everything. I’m not going to tell what they are, but yes there are a substantial amount of mechanical items, they cover a wide breadth of parts. We bought everything that was left of TVR.”
PH: Do you have the jigs and moulds?
“I can’t say – it’s covered by confidentiality. The agreement signed by myself and Nikolai contains some stringent confidentiality provisions.”
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/tv...
PH: But you couldn’t even build those cars again, even if you wanted to, right?
LE: “Why couldn’t we build them again? Of course we could. We own everything to do with the cars, we bought everything lock stock and barrel. We can build what we want to build really. The point is not that. The point is we wouldn’t want to relaunch those cars. We’re not building a company on nostalgia. We’re building on what people want to buy. And we understand what people probably want to buy has got a lot to do with the DNA and what they could buy before.
PH: What did the sale include?
LE:“Everything. I’m not going to tell what they are, but yes there are a substantial amount of mechanical items, they cover a wide breadth of parts. We bought everything that was left of TVR.”
PH: Do you have the jigs and moulds?
“I can’t say – it’s covered by confidentiality. The agreement signed by myself and Nikolai contains some stringent confidentiality provisions.”
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/tv...
LucyP said:
This is taken from a Pistonheads interview with Les Edgar from 2013:
PH: But you couldn’t even build those cars again, even if you wanted to, right?
LE: “Why couldn’t we build them again? Of course we could. We own everything to do with the cars, we bought everything lock stock and barrel. We can build what we want to build really. The point is not that. The point is we wouldn’t want to relaunch those cars. We’re not building a company on nostalgia. We’re building on what people want to buy. And we understand what people probably want to buy has got a lot to do with the DNA and what they could buy before.
PH: What did the sale include?
LE:“Everything. I’m not going to tell what they are, but yes there are a substantial amount of mechanical items, they cover a wide breadth of parts. We bought everything that was left of TVR.”
PH: Do you have the jigs and moulds?
“I can’t say – it’s covered by confidentiality. The agreement signed by myself and Nikolai contains some stringent confidentiality provisions.”
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/tv...
So you believe everything "he" says ? PH: But you couldn’t even build those cars again, even if you wanted to, right?
LE: “Why couldn’t we build them again? Of course we could. We own everything to do with the cars, we bought everything lock stock and barrel. We can build what we want to build really. The point is not that. The point is we wouldn’t want to relaunch those cars. We’re not building a company on nostalgia. We’re building on what people want to buy. And we understand what people probably want to buy has got a lot to do with the DNA and what they could buy before.
PH: What did the sale include?
LE:“Everything. I’m not going to tell what they are, but yes there are a substantial amount of mechanical items, they cover a wide breadth of parts. We bought everything that was left of TVR.”
PH: Do you have the jigs and moulds?
“I can’t say – it’s covered by confidentiality. The agreement signed by myself and Nikolai contains some stringent confidentiality provisions.”
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/tv...
We all know Peter Wheeler didn't sell everything TVR to Nikolai in the first place
Edited by glow worm on Wednesday 22 November 11:58
Les Edgar isn't stupid. Of course he bought more than just the rights to the name. He wants to protect the name that he has, so it's pretty obvious that he has the rights, jigs, moulds, know how etc. to the previous cars, if only to stop them being sold to someone else, that 3rd party using them and causing confusion.
Wheeler did sell everything to Smolenski, except the freehold of the factory. He retained that and leased it to Smolenski, probably because he leased it to TVR Engineering Ltd., when he was both the landlord personally, and the major shareholder and MD in the tenant company. It's common business practice.
Wheeler did sell everything to Smolenski, except the freehold of the factory. He retained that and leased it to Smolenski, probably because he leased it to TVR Engineering Ltd., when he was both the landlord personally, and the major shareholder and MD in the tenant company. It's common business practice.
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