The Joy of Running an Old Shed (Vol 2)

The Joy of Running an Old Shed (Vol 2)

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egor110

16,931 posts

205 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Loving the £20 year road tax.

A500leroy

5,179 posts

120 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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egor110 said:


Loving the £20 year road tax.
How can they be shed budget? Youll enjoy the fuel bill too.

Challo

10,326 posts

157 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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A500leroy said:
egor110 said:


Loving the £20 year road tax.
How can they be shed budget? Youll enjoy the fuel bill too.
Quite a few private sellers ones are getting into shed budget.

bearman68

4,677 posts

134 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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A500leroy said:
egor110 said:


Loving the £20 year road tax.
How can they be shed budget? Youll enjoy the fuel bill too.
How can they not be? I bought one last week for £250, and £800 get you a very decent one, albeit with excess of 80k on it. (As if that matters).
Mind you, last week I also bought a 59 plate MINI with the 1.6 diesel engine for £100, and a Fiat Panda 1.2 for £500. The MINI had a BCU issue, so the indicators weren't working, so £40 to fix that. Now, should I sell it, or do the cam belt, and run it in the fleet? Not sure.
The Panda was perfect. 130k on it, and it runs sweet as anything.


BenS94

2,021 posts

26 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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bearman68 said:
A500leroy said:
egor110 said:


Loving the £20 year road tax.
How can they be shed budget? Youll enjoy the fuel bill too.
How can they not be? I bought one last week for £250, and £800 get you a very decent one, albeit with excess of 80k on it. (As if that matters).
Mind you, last week I also bought a 59 plate MINI with the 1.6 diesel engine for £100, and a Fiat Panda 1.2 for £500. The MINI had a BCU issue, so the indicators weren't working, so £40 to fix that. Now, should I sell it, or do the cam belt, and run it in the fleet? Not sure.
The Panda was perfect. 130k on it, and it runs sweet as anything.
I'd run the Mini in fleet, it'll be popular.

QBee

21,090 posts

146 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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bearman68 said:
A500leroy said:
egor110 said:


Loving the £20 year road tax.
How can they be shed budget? Youll enjoy the fuel bill too.
How can they not be? I bought one last week for £250, and £800 get you a very decent one, albeit with excess of 80k on it. (As if that matters).
Mind you, last week I also bought a 59 plate MINI with the 1.6 diesel engine for £100, and a Fiat Panda 1.2 for £500. The MINI had a BCU issue, so the indicators weren't working, so £40 to fix that. Now, should I sell it, or do the cam belt, and run it in the fleet? Not sure.
The Panda was perfect. 130k on it, and it runs sweet as anything.
At the risk of sounding a trifle posh, the guy who trims my horses' feet did over 300,000 miles in his last Diesel Mini Cooper. Only major expenses were the threee clutch replacements. So he has bought another, slightly newer, one.

Bonefish Blues

27,187 posts

225 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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keo

2,090 posts

172 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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I have a 2008 Audi A3 2.0TDI 170bhp model. I know it’s been smoking for a while but didn’t realise how bad. White/ grey smoke. I’m guessing it’s an injector/s. Is this a common fault does anyone run a vag with this engine and encountered lots of smoke?

It won’t pass mot emissions test like that. The car is also old it’s done 205k miles so not sure if it’s worth spending the money on. Would be nice to get something newer. But then that’s a minefield no idea what to get! It is only for work as well but doing 20k a year it would be nice to have an upgrade as iv had the car 8 years next year and it’s served me very well. Only real expense has been clutch/ dmf when the master cylinder failed this year.

greenarrow

3,651 posts

119 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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A500leroy said:
egor110 said:


Loving the £20 year road tax.
How can they be shed budget? Youll enjoy the fuel bill too.
Brilliant little cars and yep, its been possible to find them in shed budget for a while.

I've noticed something a softening of used car prices btw, it seems the days of anything with an MOT fetching £1500 might finally be at an end. Think the cost of living crisis/ULEZ etc is having an affect on the cheaper end of the market.

The modern classic market however is still producing some crazy prices. 1980s hot hatches are literally hot stuff right now and some of the 90s ones are rising steeply too.......306 GTI-6 was almost shed territory 5 years ago - not now! Wish I had bought one when they were cheap....

bearman68

4,677 posts

134 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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keo said:
I have a 2008 Audi A3 2.0TDI 170bhp model. I know it’s been smoking for a while but didn’t realise how bad. White/ grey smoke. I’m guessing it’s an injector/s. Is this a common fault does anyone run a vag with this engine and encountered lots of smoke?

It won’t pass mot emissions test like that. The car is also old it’s done 205k miles so not sure if it’s worth spending the money on. Would be nice to get something newer. But then that’s a minefield no idea what to get! It is only for work as well but doing 20k a year it would be nice to have an upgrade as iv had the car 8 years next year and it’s served me very well. Only real expense has been clutch/ dmf when the master cylinder failed this year.
EGR all day long. Blank it off and remap it. (Would be the suggestions of someone far less moral than me)!!! rofl

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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egor110 said:


Loving the £20 year road tax.
Aren't these pretty much the most in demand car out there at the moment? I watch a few car trader auction videos on YouTube and these always seem to make way more than expected.

I think they are in demand from people who want the cheapest possible car to run and from youngsters as they are pretty much the cheapest car out there to insure.

After being quoted nearly £3K to insure a 1.2 16v Clio for a 17 year old I am seriously considering getting her one of these.

bearman68

4,677 posts

134 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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These are quite a bit more fun than a 1.2 Clio it has to be said. And cheap to tax. £20 a year.

Gordon Hill

952 posts

17 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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They're fine as transport if you can put up with that hateful 3 cylinder tractor engine.

bearman68

4,677 posts

134 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Gordon Hill said:
They're fine as transport if you can put up with that hateful 3 cylinder tractor engine.
LOL, you are not keen on this engine are you? Not the first time you've cast aspersions on Toyotas finest. rofl

I'm not terribly keen on the 3 cylinder jobbies, and they do use oil, but they go well, fairly torquey, and rev well, as well as being reliable.

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Gordon Hill said:
They're fine as transport if you can put up with that hateful 3 cylinder tractor engine.
I am a member of Zipcar and recently borrowed a 1.2 3 cylinder Vauxhall Corsa to see how it compared to my shed. It was only £9 for the hour and seemed like a good way to drive a new car for an hour with no pressure and compare it to my shed.

It was utter, utter rubbish I absolutely hated the 3 cylinder engine. It was rough, noisy and absolutely gutless. The absolutely amazing thing was this car has a list price is £20K!

I got back in my shed and it was like driving a brand new car compared to that hateful piece of crap.

I am not a fan of 3 cylinder engines, it just seems so wrong.

Gordon Hill

952 posts

17 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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bearman68 said:
Gordon Hill said:
They're fine as transport if you can put up with that hateful 3 cylinder tractor engine.
LOL, you are not keen on this engine are you? Not the first time you've cast aspersions on Toyotas finest. rofl

I'm not terribly keen on the 3 cylinder jobbies, and they do use oil, but they go well, fairly torquey, and rev well, as well as being reliable.
I tried to like it I really did. I'm not one to be negative about anything automotive but having driven my daughters C1 several times I hated every yard in the thing. Not giving up I borrowed my son's sandero stepway while he was away in Turkey for 3 weeks and no just no, what a hateful experience. So while I can see the plus sides of ownership, reliable, cheap to run, easy to work on and fix, I just couldn't live with that engine on a day to day basis.


Gordon Hill

952 posts

17 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Joey Deacon said:
Gordon Hill said:
They're fine as transport if you can put up with that hateful 3 cylinder tractor engine.
I am a member of Zipcar and recently borrowed a 1.2 3 cylinder Vauxhall Corsa to see how it compared to my shed. It was only £9 for the hour and seemed like a good way to drive a new car for an hour with no pressure and compare it to my shed.

It was utter, utter rubbish I absolutely hated the 3 cylinder engine. It was rough, noisy and absolutely gutless. The absolutely amazing thing was this car has a list price is £20K!

I got back in my shed and it was like driving a brand new car compared to that hateful piece of crap.

I am not a fan of 3 cylinder engines, it just seems so wrong.
By comparison my 20 year old Peugeot 206 1.1 4 cylinder was silky smooth, I almost wept with joy at the sheer serenity of progress.

300sl-24

530 posts

96 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Is that a Aygo or Yaris?

Ryyy

1,547 posts

37 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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7 5 7 said:
Well yeah, not just the oil pickup issue - just any diesel related issue, would soon make the £1350 you paid, not so cheap! There is just very little to go wrong engine wise with these, but you have the normal 'car related' stuff plus the 'diesel related stuff' on the CDTI's.

Apart from the tax, pretty much by the by now, I am quite happy in my 1.8 VVT to pay the more tax, knowing that is all I really to pay for and know...and plan for its arrival.

In terms of performance on these petrol's, they are pretty good if you wind them up, I enjoy the engine more than I really should in mine, very smooth.

Edited by 7 5 7 on Tuesday 21st November 12:40
Tax could be better but its a small expense in the grand scheme. I would have thought (but may be proven wrong) to get shed budget low tax you need a small engine and to get big engine small tax youre out of shed budget. So i can live with paying 20 odd a month appose to leasing/loaning something more efficient.

As for the engine, that photo was taking a few weeks ago on a weekend in richmond(the yorkshire one) and it just did it so well and comfortably, great how much you can get without spending loads. To sheds beer

itcaptainslow

3,719 posts

138 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Joey Deacon said:
egor110 said:


Loving the £20 year road tax.
Aren't these pretty much the most in demand car out there at the moment? I watch a few car trader auction videos on YouTube and these always seem to make way more than expected.

I think they are in demand from people who want the cheapest possible car to run and from youngsters as they are pretty much the cheapest car out there to insure.

After being quoted nearly £3K to insure a 1.2 16v Clio for a 17 year old I am seriously considering getting her one of these.
They still make really strong money, especially for a good one.

I can’t speak highly enough of them; they’re tough, easy to fix, fun and considering I put 20k a year on mine, I find it comfortable and a decent place to do the miles. Fuel economy is great and mine is in the £0 tax bracket as it’s a late Mk1.

It’s not the fastest thing in the world but revs willingly. The Euro 5 map I think stripped some of the fuelling out below 3k rpm, my partner’s (now sold to a friend) E4 107 had noticeably more low down torque.