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NotSoSure said:
CRA1G said:
Go for the Manual.... Remember this will be the last chance to buy a New ICE Manual ///M Car..
I went in thinking auto was the way to go, but after test driving them both, bought the manual.The manual seems to get a slating in some of the reviews, but I don't think it's warranted.
I test drove an F87 Comp last week, which I liked, but left the showroom having signed up to a two year lease on a new G87 auto.
I've always bought used and paid cash, but this lease deal potentially gets me into a new car for the same cost, over two years, as a four year old one.
Here's the maths;
G87 deposit £5,470 plus 23 x £455, so just under £16k all in. Standard spec, which is higher than a fully optioned F87.
2020 F87 Comp auto £36k. Retail value in 2 yrs say £28k, so I'd get say £23k. That's potentially £13k depreciation plus £895 for second year warranty plus c.£3k lost interest on £30k of savings.
Even if F87's hold their money really well it's not going to have cost much more to get into a new car and I don't have the hassle of selling it.
Arrives some time in May, hopefully.
I've always bought used and paid cash, but this lease deal potentially gets me into a new car for the same cost, over two years, as a four year old one.
Here's the maths;
G87 deposit £5,470 plus 23 x £455, so just under £16k all in. Standard spec, which is higher than a fully optioned F87.
2020 F87 Comp auto £36k. Retail value in 2 yrs say £28k, so I'd get say £23k. That's potentially £13k depreciation plus £895 for second year warranty plus c.£3k lost interest on £30k of savings.
Even if F87's hold their money really well it's not going to have cost much more to get into a new car and I don't have the hassle of selling it.
Arrives some time in May, hopefully.
SFTWend said:
I test drove an F87 Comp last week, which I liked, but left the showroom having signed up to a two year lease on a new G87 auto.
I've always bought used and paid cash, but this lease deal potentially gets me into a new car for the same cost, over two years, as a four year old one.
Here's the maths;
G87 deposit £5,470 plus 23 x £455, so just under £16k all in. Standard spec, which is higher than a fully optioned F87.
2020 F87 Comp auto £36k. Retail value in 2 yrs say £28k, so I'd get say £23k. That's potentially £13k depreciation plus £895 for second year warranty plus c.£3k lost interest on £30k of savings.
Even if F87's hold their money really well it's not going to have cost much more to get into a new car and I don't have the hassle of selling it.
Arrives some time in May, hopefully.
Sounds like a pretty good deal, close or better depending on mileage to the deal I and other have got through Contract Cars. My local dealership couldn't get anywhere near that price.I've always bought used and paid cash, but this lease deal potentially gets me into a new car for the same cost, over two years, as a four year old one.
Here's the maths;
G87 deposit £5,470 plus 23 x £455, so just under £16k all in. Standard spec, which is higher than a fully optioned F87.
2020 F87 Comp auto £36k. Retail value in 2 yrs say £28k, so I'd get say £23k. That's potentially £13k depreciation plus £895 for second year warranty plus c.£3k lost interest on £30k of savings.
Even if F87's hold their money really well it's not going to have cost much more to get into a new car and I don't have the hassle of selling it.
Arrives some time in May, hopefully.
I came to the same conclusion about the F87 really, road tax and all the rest of it. Weirdly the insurance quotes I was getting were 30-40% higher on the F87 too.
I'm jealous because mine is expected as 18 weeks factory order!
NotSoSure said:
CRA1G said:
Go for the Manual.... Remember this will be the last chance to buy a New ICE Manual ///M Car..
I went in thinking auto was the way to go, but after test driving them both, bought the manual.The manual seems to get a slating in some of the reviews, but I don't think it's warranted.
Are they still putting the CDV in their manuals as well?
If so, pop the grommet out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fzpMSVHeZ8
zolder8 said:
Sounds like a pretty good deal, close or better depending on mileage to the deal I and other have got through Contract Cars. My local dealership couldn't get anywhere near that price.
I came to the same conclusion about the F87 really, road tax and all the rest of it. Weirdly the insurance quotes I was getting were 30-40% higher on the F87 too.
I'm jealous because mine is expected as 18 weeks factory order!
8,000 miles p.a. no fee.I came to the same conclusion about the F87 really, road tax and all the rest of it. Weirdly the insurance quotes I was getting were 30-40% higher on the F87 too.
I'm jealous because mine is expected as 18 weeks factory order!
Yes I've found the insurance quotes c.30% cheaper on the G87, but being a lease car the choice of insurers is limited and I might have to take my chances with Admiral.
Edited by SFTWend on Saturday 27th April 08:30
I am very possibly buying an LCI OG M2 very soon. I have driven a few M2s at dealers recently so I will be able to compare how they all drive.
I've paid for a vcheck report for the car in question (all good). MOT history is fine, no advisories
The seller has recorded a few decent videos of inside/outside, including iDrive service history etc. All looks great - full BMW history, RIS on time, etc. Extra maintenance done by current owner. Only thing outstanding, unofficially, is a diff service which I can sort out if I buy it.
He also sent me one of those videos the BMW dealers give you when doing a service. This was only a few months ago and very few miles ago, so is a handy look at the underside of the car & notes things like brake pad & tyre depths, which is helpful.
Is there a good checklist I can run through? Any other red flags to note? This is a private sale so I want to try and avoid a lemon. Whilst I'm travelling a reasonable distance to see this car I am happy to walk away if it's not right.
Thanks
I've paid for a vcheck report for the car in question (all good). MOT history is fine, no advisories
The seller has recorded a few decent videos of inside/outside, including iDrive service history etc. All looks great - full BMW history, RIS on time, etc. Extra maintenance done by current owner. Only thing outstanding, unofficially, is a diff service which I can sort out if I buy it.
He also sent me one of those videos the BMW dealers give you when doing a service. This was only a few months ago and very few miles ago, so is a handy look at the underside of the car & notes things like brake pad & tyre depths, which is helpful.
Is there a good checklist I can run through? Any other red flags to note? This is a private sale so I want to try and avoid a lemon. Whilst I'm travelling a reasonable distance to see this car I am happy to walk away if it's not right.
Thanks
mjf1 said:
I am very possibly buying an LCI OG M2 very soon. I have driven a few M2s at dealers recently so I will be able to compare how they all drive.
I've paid for a vcheck report for the car in question (all good). MOT history is fine, no advisories
The seller has recorded a few decent videos of inside/outside, including iDrive service history etc. All looks great - full BMW history, RIS on time, etc. Extra maintenance done by current owner. Only thing outstanding, unofficially, is a diff service which I can sort out if I buy it.
He also sent me one of those videos the BMW dealers give you when doing a service. This was only a few months ago and very few miles ago, so is a handy look at the underside of the car & notes things like brake pad & tyre depths, which is helpful.
Is there a good checklist I can run through? Any other red flags to note? This is a private sale so I want to try and avoid a lemon. Whilst I'm travelling a reasonable distance to see this car I am happy to walk away if it's not right.
Thanks
Grey with sunroof and comp wheels?I've paid for a vcheck report for the car in question (all good). MOT history is fine, no advisories
The seller has recorded a few decent videos of inside/outside, including iDrive service history etc. All looks great - full BMW history, RIS on time, etc. Extra maintenance done by current owner. Only thing outstanding, unofficially, is a diff service which I can sort out if I buy it.
He also sent me one of those videos the BMW dealers give you when doing a service. This was only a few months ago and very few miles ago, so is a handy look at the underside of the car & notes things like brake pad & tyre depths, which is helpful.
Is there a good checklist I can run through? Any other red flags to note? This is a private sale so I want to try and avoid a lemon. Whilst I'm travelling a reasonable distance to see this car I am happy to walk away if it's not right.
Thanks
mjf1 said:
I am very possibly buying an LCI OG M2 very soon. I have driven a few M2s at dealers recently so I will be able to compare how they all drive.
This is a private sale so I want to try and avoid a lemon. Whilst I'm travelling a reasonable distance to see this car I am happy to walk away if it's not right.
Then we get the moaners telling us it's getting more and more difficult to get 'Test Drives' at the dealers... You wonder why...This is a private sale so I want to try and avoid a lemon. Whilst I'm travelling a reasonable distance to see this car I am happy to walk away if it's not right.
Bemmer said:
Then we get the moaners telling us it's getting more and more difficult to get 'Test Drives' at the dealers... You wonder why...
Are you having a pop at me because I wanted to test drive some cars before buying? What a ridiculous stand.It wasn't difficult at all to get a drive, by the way.
mjf1 said:
I am very possibly buying an LCI OG M2 very soon. I have driven a few M2s at dealers recently so I will be able to compare how they all drive.
I've paid for a vcheck report for the car in question (all good). MOT history is fine, no advisories
The seller has recorded a few decent videos of inside/outside, including iDrive service history etc. All looks great - full BMW history, RIS on time, etc. Extra maintenance done by current owner. Only thing outstanding, unofficially, is a diff service which I can sort out if I buy it.
He also sent me one of those videos the BMW dealers give you when doing a service. This was only a few months ago and very few miles ago, so is a handy look at the underside of the car & notes things like brake pad & tyre depths, which is helpful.
Is there a good checklist I can run through? Any other red flags to note? This is a private sale so I want to try and avoid a lemon. Whilst I'm travelling a reasonable distance to see this car I am happy to walk away if it's not right.
Thanks
I bought a 2018 OG back in Nov 22 and absolutely love it.I've paid for a vcheck report for the car in question (all good). MOT history is fine, no advisories
The seller has recorded a few decent videos of inside/outside, including iDrive service history etc. All looks great - full BMW history, RIS on time, etc. Extra maintenance done by current owner. Only thing outstanding, unofficially, is a diff service which I can sort out if I buy it.
He also sent me one of those videos the BMW dealers give you when doing a service. This was only a few months ago and very few miles ago, so is a handy look at the underside of the car & notes things like brake pad & tyre depths, which is helpful.
Is there a good checklist I can run through? Any other red flags to note? This is a private sale so I want to try and avoid a lemon. Whilst I'm travelling a reasonable distance to see this car I am happy to walk away if it's not right.
Thanks
The OG seems pretty robust.
Definitely check everything works as expected would be a good starting point.
They can throw up some pricey maintenance bills.
DCT gearbox requires an oil and filter service at 50K miles ish. Its around £700.
Discs and pads are a fortune. You'd need to budget £600 and £500 for fronts and rears respectively, fitted.
Tyres are pricey too - £300 each for rears, maybe £250 each for fronts.
Telling you this in case it needs any of those imminently or soon.
Springs break but they snap in a bad way and basically make the car undriveable. Some people pre-emptively replace them at 45-50K miles. Again, not expensive.
Spec is important on them.
For me Harman Kardon and electric seats was a must, as an absolute minimum. Mine also has ICON headlights (brilliant!), reversing cam, comfort glass (i think thats what its called - darkened rears basically), heated folding mirrors, heated seats.
Colour wise - any of the metallics resell well. White is not so popular.
zolder8 said:
Sounds like a pretty good deal, close or better depending on mileage to the deal I and other have got through Contract Cars. My local dealership couldn't get anywhere near that price.
I came to the same conclusion about the F87 really, road tax and all the rest of it. Weirdly the insurance quotes I was getting were 30-40% higher on the F87 too.
I'm jealous because mine is expected as 18 weeks factory order!
Picked mine up today, a couple of weeks earlier than expected. My son approves! It's already had admiring glances and prompted positive conversations with strangers. I don't think it's ugly any more!I came to the same conclusion about the F87 really, road tax and all the rest of it. Weirdly the insurance quotes I was getting were 30-40% higher on the F87 too.
I'm jealous because mine is expected as 18 weeks factory order!
My first choice was Brooklyn grey, but having seen them side by side I'm pleased with my second choice of colour especially as Zandvoort blue is unique to the M2.
SFTWend said:
Picked mine up today, a couple of weeks earlier than expected. My son approves! It's already had admiring glances and prompted positive conversations with strangers. I don't think it's ugly any more!
My first choice was Brooklyn grey, but having seen them side by side I'm pleased with my second choice of colour especially as Zandvoort blue is unique to the M2.
Enjoy your car My first choice was Brooklyn grey, but having seen them side by side I'm pleased with my second choice of colour especially as Zandvoort blue is unique to the M2.
I think they look way better in reality than they photograph… saw a dark olive green one with loads of carbon on it the other day that had clearly been lowered etc and was far more appealing than I expected.
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