Baldur’s Gate 3

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Mastodon2

13,847 posts

167 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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franki68 said:
The company I got it through seems pretty reputable ,been going a long time and massive positive feedback .
Recommended by someone who has used them for a few years with no issues .
A victimless crime, until your own card details get compromised and you're reminded there's a world full of tts out there who will nick your details and buy anything and everything of value until they get locked out. Game key sites are another popular one for scammers, steal some credit card details or purchase them on the dark web, register a Steam account in a country with a poor economy, buy job lots of game keys for cheap and sell them on to reseller sites, flog them on Facebook, eBay, Gumtree etc. Continue until the card stops working, as long as they make back more money than spent on obtaining the details, they're in profit.

On the topic of BG3, does it ever pick up? I started off enjoying it, thought it was a bit heavy on the "search burlap sacks for wheels of cheese" elements but thought it might pick up a bit once I started getting levelled up a bit and fighting a pack of goblins didn't feel like a Fear and Hunger-esque battle to the death. However, it didn't pick up.

After I got out of the exceedingly dull underground forge area at the end of act 1, act 2 started in the haunted forest. Holy st that place is boring. The absolutely leaden pacing killed my enthusiam. I was quite enjoying the story regarding the parasites, the cult etc, but it felt like the game was constantly saying "When you get to the next place, all will be revealed", yet it never was. The characters are awful too, I quite liked the green demon hunter woman, but the rest of them are ste. You've got Shadowheart, the "don't love me, I'm too dangerous" type, Gale the chirpy wizard with a magic bomb in this chest - not a bad idea for a character, just comes across as a knob in most of his dialogue. The stoiic druid, about as much character a cardboard cutout of a druid. Wyll, a hero type, super generic, gets horns in some magical punishment but has almost nothing interesting to say about it. The worst of the lot is probably that insufferable vampire who was so grating he was consigned to camp at the first opportunity but still wanted some free blood as a meal, even though he was just warming the benches the whole time.

People say these characters are well-written but I just don't see it. Witcher 3, there is a game with good character writing. Or Mass Effect III, Deus Ex, System Shock, etc etc. I've read some pretty unflattering commentary about the stories of the characters and how badly most of them resolve, almost as if the devs really only focused their time and efforts on certain favourites and others got left by the wayside.

I've heard that the actual city of Baldur's Gate is incredible, but I do wonder if I'll ever get to see it. In act 2, we seem to be on the hunt for this tower where the cult are doing...something or other. Larian talked about what a technical marvel the city is, but playing the game it almost feels like the city doesn't exist apart from in that one loading screen when you boot the game up. Trudging around the haunted forest fending off shadow spirit things feels like the most unimaginative thing they could have put in the game. Such a massive shame, especially after the awesome opening, but it so quickly goes downhill - act 1 is basically a hillside, a druid grove, a ruined castle filled with goblins, a swamp and an underground ancient magic forge. I know Forgotten Realms is pretty cookie-cutter as far as fantasy settings go, but these locations and the enemies you find in them are about as generic as it gets.

When I think about good RPG games with interesting settings, I can't stop comparing it to Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire, a flawed game itself, but the fantasy-Carribean setting was really interesting and allowed for some beautiful locations, interesting gameplay and great storytelling (although I did think the overall central plot of the Pillars games kind of sucks too, but the world was amazing). The combat just felt so much snappier and more responsive than BG3 too, which is an unusual thing to say about turn-based games, but there I felt like my tanks could tank damage, my heavy-hitters could tear through trash mobs easily, my spell casters could deal massive damage as long as they didn't get hit themselves etc. Playing BG3 on the default difficulty, everyone feels so fragile and their attacks are so puny. This is why the "push off high ledge" meta has become so popular as normal combat is so slow and your team never really feel powerful, at least not in the first 25 hours of the game.

I understand that some fights need to be tough, but when my demon hunter berserker woman charges a cave goblin with her magic two-handed axe, I want to feel like she going to flatten the target, instead of getting locked into several turns of combat as she misses, min-rolls on damage twice and then I finish the target with a lightning bolt from across the map.

I don't think it's a bad game, I just don't think it's the masterpiece people are making it out to be. There are so many amazing games coming out at the moment, I just can't see me getting back on this until the good releases have dried up, as they always eventually do. That said, I think it will take a fairly significant release drought before I cross the threshold of the fabled city of Baldur's Gate. hehe

franki68

10,486 posts

223 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Mastodon2 said:
A victimless crime, until your own card details get compromised and you're reminded there's a world full of tts out there who will nick your details and buy anything and everything of value until they get locked out. Game key sites are another popular one for scammers, steal some credit card details or purchase them on the dark web, register a Steam account in a country with a poor economy, buy job lots of game keys for cheap and sell them on to reseller sites, flog them on Facebook, eBay, Gumtree etc. Continue until the card stops working, as long as they make back more money than spent on obtaining the details, they're in profit.

On the topic of BG3, does it ever pick up? I started off enjoying it, thought it was a bit heavy on the "search burlap sacks for wheels of cheese" elements but thought it might pick up a bit once I started getting levelled up a bit and fighting a pack of goblins didn't feel like a Fear and Hunger-esque battle to the death. However, it didn't pick up.

After I got out of the exceedingly dull underground forge area at the end of act 1, act 2 started in the haunted forest. Holy st that place is boring. The absolutely leaden pacing killed my enthusiam. I was quite enjoying the story regarding the parasites, the cult etc, but it felt like the game was constantly saying "When you get to the next place, all will be revealed", yet it never was. The characters are awful too, I quite liked the green demon hunter woman, but the rest of them are ste. You've got Shadowheart, the "don't love me, I'm too dangerous" type, Gale the chirpy wizard with a magic bomb in this chest - not a bad idea for a character, just comes across as a knob in most of his dialogue. The stoiic druid, about as much character a cardboard cutout of a druid. Wyll, a hero type, super generic, gets horns in some magical punishment but has almost nothing interesting to say about it. The worst of the lot is probably that insufferable vampire who was so grating he was consigned to camp at the first opportunity but still wanted some free blood as a meal, even though he was just warming the benches the whole time.

People say these characters are well-written but I just don't see it. Witcher 3, there is a game with good character writing. Or Mass Effect III, Deus Ex, System Shock, etc etc. I've read some pretty unflattering commentary about the stories of the characters and how badly most of them resolve, almost as if the devs really only focused their time and efforts on certain favourites and others got left by the wayside.

I've heard that the actual city of Baldur's Gate is incredible, but I do wonder if I'll ever get to see it. In act 2, we seem to be on the hunt for this tower where the cult are doing...something or other. Larian talked about what a technical marvel the city is, but playing the game it almost feels like the city doesn't exist apart from in that one loading screen when you boot the game up. Trudging around the haunted forest fending off shadow spirit things feels like the most unimaginative thing they could have put in the game. Such a massive shame, especially after the awesome opening, but it so quickly goes downhill - act 1 is basically a hillside, a druid grove, a ruined castle filled with goblins, a swamp and an underground ancient magic forge. I know Forgotten Realms is pretty cookie-cutter as far as fantasy settings go, but these locations and the enemies you find in them are about as generic as it gets.

When I think about good RPG games with interesting settings, I can't stop comparing it to Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire, a flawed game itself, but the fantasy-Carribean setting was really interesting and allowed for some beautiful locations, interesting gameplay and great storytelling (although I did think the overall central plot of the Pillars games kind of sucks too, but the world was amazing). The combat just felt so much snappier and more responsive than BG3 too, which is an unusual thing to say about turn-based games, but there I felt like my tanks could tank damage, my heavy-hitters could tear through trash mobs easily, my spell casters could deal massive damage as long as they didn't get hit themselves etc. Playing BG3 on the default difficulty, everyone feels so fragile and their attacks are so puny. This is why the "push off high ledge" meta has become so popular as normal combat is so slow and your team never really feel powerful, at least not in the first 25 hours of the game.

I understand that some fights need to be tough, but when my demon hunter berserker woman charges a cave goblin with her magic two-handed axe, I want to feel like she going to flatten the target, instead of getting locked into several turns of combat as she misses, min-rolls on damage twice and then I finish the target with a lightning bolt from across the map.

I don't think it's a bad game, I just don't think it's the masterpiece people are making it out to be. There are so many amazing games coming out at the moment, I just can't see me getting back on this until the good releases have dried up, as they always eventually do. That said, I think it will take a fairly significant release drought before I cross the threshold of the fabled city of Baldur's Gate. hehe
Scan detector give it a security rating of 100/100 ,scam adviser ,web paranoid ,trust pilot ,tech news daily etc all say it’s a safe site and a legit business ,it has been going for over 20 years and featured in Forbes ,entrepreneur etc.
I did research before buying .Any (very small amount ) complaints tend to be over installation issues with no security issues.

But yes I agree Bg is slow ,very slow if like me you don’t do d&d because it’s a massive learning curve and the story hasn’t grabbed me .


Narcisus

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8,125 posts

282 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Watched a review on youtube this morning where one guy says 1st act incredible, 2nd act superb but the 3rd act feels unfinished or maybe not polished ....

I've decided to give it maybe 6 months to mature and go with my original plan of Divinity 2 first.

Anyone else done the 3rd act yet ? Thoughts ?

130R

6,816 posts

208 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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I'm a bit over 70 hours in and have started act 3. The game is a 10/10 from me.

My main character is currently a level 10 Half-Elf Oath of Vengeance Paladin. Divine Smite does a lot of damage now and with heavy armour you have great survivability to take on multiple enemies.

Edited by 130R on Friday 25th August 17:58

franki68

10,486 posts

223 months

Sunday 27th August 2023
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In answer to my sleep question earlier you have to click on a tick next to the spells at the bottom ,no idea why this only seems to apply to sleep spell .

Stevil

10,674 posts

231 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Finished this over the weekend, thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish. Clocked just shy of 138 hours...

franki68

10,486 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th September 2023
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really not falling for this game so far .Playing through it but it hasn't grabbed me the way DOS2 did.


JaredVannett

1,564 posts

145 months

Tuesday 19th September 2023
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franki68 said:
really not falling for this game so far .Playing through it but it hasn't grabbed me the way DOS2 did.
Looks like its time to move onto Starfield for you...

franki68

10,486 posts

223 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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JaredVannett said:
Looks like its time to move onto Starfield for you...
It’s installed funnily enough .

Actual

798 posts

108 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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I'm really getting into Baldur's Gate 3 on PS5.

Games take me 100's of hours to complete but I don't have the time and I as I'm only playing against myself I will very happily make use of walkthroughs so that I can experience everything in the game and not miss stuff. I struggle to know what all the commands and screen symbols mean so I'm totally lost most of the time.

I am getting great results from Microsoft Bing Chat AI using GPT-4 and it's just like sitting next to a friend who has completed the game and can give a helping hand.


In Baldur's Gate 3, how can I cure a character of Flesh Rot?

Flesh Rot is a nasty disease that can afflict your characters in Baldur's Gate 3. It causes you to lose 1d4 hit points at the start of each turn and reduces your maximum hit points by the same amount. Fortunately, there are a few ways to cure it:

- The easiest way is to use a **Lesser Restoration** spell, which can remove any disease, poison, paralysis, or blindness from a creature. This spell can be learned by **Bards**, **Clerics**, **Druids**, **Paladins** (at level 5), and **Rangers**. If you have Shadowheart in your party, she knows this spell by default and can cast it on any affected character¹²³.
- Another option is to use a potion or a scroll that has the same effect as Lesser Restoration. These items can be found or bought in various locations throughout the game. You can use them on yourself or on another character to cure Flesh Rot¹².
- The last resort is to wait until the disease wears off naturally. This can take a while, as Flesh Rot lasts for about 20 turns. After that, you will have to make a Constitution saving throw with a difficulty of 15. If you succeed, you will be free of Flesh Rot. If you fail, you will have to wait another 20 turns and try again³.

I hope this helps you deal with Flesh Rot in Baldur's Gate 3. If you need more information, you can always use Bing to search for more tips and guides on this game. Have fun!



Is it best to let the hag take the eye or try to kill the hag?

That is a difficult question to answer, as it depends on your personal preference and playstyle. There are pros and cons to both options, and you may have different outcomes depending on your choices and actions. Here are some factors to consider:

If you let the hag take your eye, you will lose some of your vision and perception, but you will gain a bonus on intimidation and a one-time charm from the hag. You will also avoid a potentially deadly fight with the hag and her minions, which can be challenging for low-level characters. However, you will not be able to remove the tadpole from your brain, and you will have to find another way to restore your eye if you want to .
If you try to kill the hag, you will keep your eye and avoid the negative effects of the Paid the Price condition. You will also have a chance to loot the hag’s lair, which contains some valuable items and secrets. However, you will have to face a tough battle with the hag and her allies, which can be very dangerous if you are not prepared. You will also have to deal with the consequences of killing the hag, such as angering her sister or losing the trust of some of the children she kidnapped .
Ultimately, the choice is yours to make. There is no right or wrong answer, only different outcomes and experiences. You can always save your game before making a decision and reload it if you are not satisfied with the result. You can also use Bing to search for more tips and guides on this game. Have fun!


I don't have to scroll though endless google results and the AI seems to provide the best answer from multiple sources.

So far the answers have been totally on point and you can actually have a conversation without rephrasing the whole question each time. I am amazed that the AI has learnt what it knows on a game that has only been out a few weeks.

On the other hand if Chat GPT puts IGN out of business then there won't be a future source for the AI to index.

I expect that AI GPT-4 can be used for other games and actually I've started to use AI GPT-4 for more and more stuff in general and beyond games.

I can't tell if everyone knows about this new AI stuff and it's just me who thinks it is magic.

FourWheelDrift

88,794 posts

286 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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Elijah Wood & Sean Astin (Sam and Frodo) plays Baldur's Gate 3. Elijah is ruthless.... biggrin


franki68

10,486 posts

223 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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Played through to the end ,took over 200 hours although I was fairly thorough .
It was a great game but not sure I would play again ,I did mix and match my party and did most of their storylines so outside of character creation to do a different play style not sure what there is to pull me back .

davek_964

8,926 posts

177 months

Friday 24th May
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I'm going to give this a try.

Not really expecting to get on with it - I have played D&D but that was 40 years ago and I'm not sure "turn based" is really going to work for me. But we'll see...

Matty_

2,022 posts

259 months

Friday 24th May
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davek_964 said:
I'm going to give this a try.

Not really expecting to get on with it - I have played D&D but that was 40 years ago and I'm not sure "turn based" is really going to work for me. But we'll see...
Problem is they don't massively hold your hand in this game at the start, and even on 'easy' it can be quite difficult to get your head around if you've never played turn based. I don't consider myself to be hugely out of touch (I played BG1&2 to death as a youngster) but found BG3 quite challenging on Normal difficulty....but only in the 1st act, it got much easier as it went along.

But it's an absolute masterpiece of a game.

franki68

10,486 posts

223 months

Saturday 25th May
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davek_964 said:
I'm going to give this a try.

Not really expecting to get on with it - I have played D&D but that was 40 years ago and I'm not sure "turn based" is really going to work for me. But we'll see...
It’s a game hat I struggled with initially but as it went along I enjoyed it more and more and by the time I finished it it had hit me how good a game it is . I never ever replay games but this is one I would do .My only real issue is it’s absolutely massive and although I did most things you could do it took 240 hours to finish for me .

davek_964

8,926 posts

177 months

Saturday 25th May
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franki68 said:
davek_964 said:
I'm going to give this a try.

Not really expecting to get on with it - I have played D&D but that was 40 years ago and I'm not sure "turn based" is really going to work for me. But we'll see...
It’s a game hat I struggled with initially but as it went along I enjoyed it more and more and by the time I finished it it had hit me how good a game it is . I never ever replay games but this is one I would do .My only real issue is it’s absolutely massive and although I did most things you could do it took 240 hours to finish for me .
Surprisingly, I've found the turn based stuff absolutely fine. It means combat is much more tactical than real time stuff and it works very well.
I bought it this morning and have spent a good few hours playing today.

davek_964

8,926 posts

177 months

Tuesday 28th May
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Played this quite a bit over the weekend, and really impressed. Still in Act 1 but I think I have now acquired all of the characters you're supposed to have.

Interestingly, I got through one fight and then decided I really should have had one of the other characters in my party. At that point, I only had about 5 mins free - went back to a previous save, changed the party and met the people I had previously battled - and the initial meeting / conversation was very different. I had to switch off at that point, but looking forward to going back to it later today and seeing how that plays out.

Jimmy No Hands

5,012 posts

158 months

Wednesday 12th June
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I struggled with this first time round - sat down again the other day and now 20 hours later I've nearly finished Act 1. Not finding it as challenging as DOS2, but the narrative, voice acting and environments are absolutely fantastic.

davek_964

8,926 posts

177 months

Thursday
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I think I'm still on Act 1, and it must be more than 20 hours. I have "changed areas" but only to get to the creche - I did under dark but then switched to mountain pass so I could do both.

My playing style seems to have changed from "negotiate, because that's better than fighting all of the time" to "negotiate - then kill them later because I can steal all their stuff"