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My brother has just taken delivery of a bZ4X to replace a Niro EV. He has said it feels better built all round, but is missing some things the Kia had, heated wheel being one of them, might be an option on the Toyota.
He said its defiantely a more premium feeling car than the Kia. FWIW both are company cars so his choice was limited, but the Toyta was what he found best on his list when he needed to replace the Kia. The facelift Niro was ruled out, as it doesnt have rake adjustment on the wheel? Which seems odd.
He said its defiantely a more premium feeling car than the Kia. FWIW both are company cars so his choice was limited, but the Toyta was what he found best on his list when he needed to replace the Kia. The facelift Niro was ruled out, as it doesnt have rake adjustment on the wheel? Which seems odd.
Danm1les said:
My brother has just taken delivery of a bZ4X to replace a Niro EV. He has said it feels better built all round, but is missing some things the Kia had, heated wheel being one of them, might be an option on the Toyota.
He said its defiantely a more premium feeling car than the Kia. FWIW both are company cars so his choice was limited, but the Toyta was what he found best on his list when he needed to replace the Kia. The facelift Niro was ruled out, as it doesnt have rake adjustment on the wheel? Which seems odd.
No rake adjustment is a bit odd yeah! I can't remember the last car I had that didn't have rake adjustment. It might have even been my very first car, an R-reg Ford Ka. He said its defiantely a more premium feeling car than the Kia. FWIW both are company cars so his choice was limited, but the Toyta was what he found best on his list when he needed to replace the Kia. The facelift Niro was ruled out, as it doesnt have rake adjustment on the wheel? Which seems odd.
Otispunkmeyer said:
Danm1les said:
My brother has just taken delivery of a bZ4X to replace a Niro EV. He has said it feels better built all round, but is missing some things the Kia had, heated wheel being one of them, might be an option on the Toyota.
He said its defiantely a more premium feeling car than the Kia. FWIW both are company cars so his choice was limited, but the Toyta was what he found best on his list when he needed to replace the Kia. The facelift Niro was ruled out, as it doesnt have rake adjustment on the wheel? Which seems odd.
No rake adjustment is a bit odd yeah! I can't remember the last car I had that didn't have rake adjustment. It might have even been my very first car, an R-reg Ford Ka. He said its defiantely a more premium feeling car than the Kia. FWIW both are company cars so his choice was limited, but the Toyta was what he found best on his list when he needed to replace the Kia. The facelift Niro was ruled out, as it doesnt have rake adjustment on the wheel? Which seems odd.
I recall seeing comments that Leaf and Zoe are limited in steering wheel adjustment.
Sheepshanks said:
The most basic Niro EV spec says "Tilt & Telescopic Steering Wheel Adjustment".
I recall seeing comments that Leaf and Zoe are limited in steering wheel adjustment.
Not sure then! Maybe just the one he went and saw at a dealer didn't have it for one reason or another! Either way seems happy in the Toyota thus far.I recall seeing comments that Leaf and Zoe are limited in steering wheel adjustment.
Danm1les said:
My brother has just taken delivery of a bZ4X to replace a Niro EV. He has said it feels better built all round, but is missing some things the Kia had, heated wheel being one of them, might be an option on the Toyota.
He said its defiantely a more premium feeling car than the Kia. FWIW both are company cars so his choice was limited, but the Toyta was what he found best on his list when he needed to replace the Kia. The facelift Niro was ruled out, as it doesnt have rake adjustment on the wheel? Which seems odd.
This is very useful and ties in with how we felt so thank you. My main reservation is the size, it feels so much bigger than the Niro EV and I may be nervous doing the Supermarket run in it (and i drive an E61 so used to a fairly large car). I admit i am also tempted by the toys so it may come down to the deal they offer.He said its defiantely a more premium feeling car than the Kia. FWIW both are company cars so his choice was limited, but the Toyta was what he found best on his list when he needed to replace the Kia. The facelift Niro was ruled out, as it doesnt have rake adjustment on the wheel? Which seems odd.
I sat in one of these yesterday and was quite impressed. It all feels pretty good quality, I'm not an SUV fan but I prefer this shape to many others. It seems to have a bit of a presence about it.
There are barely driven 23 plates for sale for 30k. Size wise it looks big but its only 7 cm longer than my 3 series. They seem pretty well specced as well. Apparently software updates have increased range but still not brilliant, I've read they want the battery to be at least 70% after 10 years so typical ultra conservative Toyota / Lexus.
I presume reliability would be guaranteed (they took their bloody time in producing the thing) but wonder in the long term how it would stack up against an EV6 or Ioniq 5.
The 10 year warranty sounds great but what would they need to do every 12 months for the warranty to stand, it doesn't make sense.
There are barely driven 23 plates for sale for 30k. Size wise it looks big but its only 7 cm longer than my 3 series. They seem pretty well specced as well. Apparently software updates have increased range but still not brilliant, I've read they want the battery to be at least 70% after 10 years so typical ultra conservative Toyota / Lexus.
I presume reliability would be guaranteed (they took their bloody time in producing the thing) but wonder in the long term how it would stack up against an EV6 or Ioniq 5.
The 10 year warranty sounds great but what would they need to do every 12 months for the warranty to stand, it doesn't make sense.
I run my own older car for work and get 45ppm.
These Toyotas are available fully expensed for about £160/month to me from work with the mileage rate that I can claim being somewhere around 17ppm.
So I have been toying with the idea especially with the cost of insurance having gone up a bit this year.
I have 3.6kw of solar panels on the roof at home too.
Work does NOT have any charge points though which is SHOCKING (or rather not!) for a DEFRA agency
These Toyotas are available fully expensed for about £160/month to me from work with the mileage rate that I can claim being somewhere around 17ppm.
So I have been toying with the idea especially with the cost of insurance having gone up a bit this year.
I have 3.6kw of solar panels on the roof at home too.
Work does NOT have any charge points though which is SHOCKING (or rather not!) for a DEFRA agency
Initial impressions - a big car / SUV. Quite a lot of space inside, slightly austere claustrophobic interior, poor rear visibility but works well with a reversing camera. Well laid out dashboard, very easy to drive, responsive, 'car like' driving qualities and hides its 2 tonne weight well, quite agile, seems to have a bit of character unlike some Toyota hybrids. Not too impressed with the ride quality though but it would be fine on smooth roads.
The drive / N / reverse selector is a bit strange to use and there are a load of buttons rather than everything going through a touch screen. I quite like it for an EV SUV. This is a good S/H buy - wouldn't consider one new.
The drive / N / reverse selector is a bit strange to use and there are a load of buttons rather than everything going through a touch screen. I quite like it for an EV SUV. This is a good S/H buy - wouldn't consider one new.
Edited by Yahonza on Saturday 25th May 19:13
Mum has got one on Motability and sold her 2014 Rav4 D4D, my initial impressions were its not as well built or luxurious as her Rav4. Plenty of glitches with the software for the headunit.
Shes got the FWD version, middle of the range and it goes well, had to overtake two cars a few weeks ago when I was driving it and it was effortless. I think the advertised range is about 280 but with aircon on that drops to about 240, although with the aircon on "eco" it goes up to about 257.
Shes got the FWD version, middle of the range and it goes well, had to overtake two cars a few weeks ago when I was driving it and it was effortless. I think the advertised range is about 280 but with aircon on that drops to about 240, although with the aircon on "eco" it goes up to about 257.
sawman said:
Just ordered one of these via the work salary sacrifice, mainly on the basis it was the cheapest car that i could order on the scheme with a tow hitch.
Will be interesting to see how it compares with the volvo xc40 recharge we already have
I assume you only need the tow hitch for a bike carrier or light trailer, as the maximum towing weight is 750kg.Will be interesting to see how it compares with the volvo xc40 recharge we already have
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