Your car needs discs and pads sir...
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See this thread: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Its about my experience of the Porsche dealership servicing my car.
Its about my experience of the Porsche dealership servicing my car.
QBee said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Sheepshanks said:
QBee said:
The last time I did it, a couple of months later the right front caliper fell off.
Fortunately, just as I was turning into my drive at 5 mph.
But I have never touched brakes since.
A colleague had that, well the other side, happen on his Alfa that had just had the brakes done at a dealer. He was doing 40 at the time.Fortunately, just as I was turning into my drive at 5 mph.
But I have never touched brakes since.
Twice I've forgotten to prime the pedal after doing brakes. First time I rolled into the garage door, luckily no damage. Second time I was luckily not to hit a neighbours car as I pulled it off the drive. A few panic stamps on the pedal had it stopped.
Bet it happens a lot at garages that are rushing to do the job as fast as possible and get the next one in.
The pads I had him put in were Carbon Lorraine, so pretty agressive.
We talked about them, but he never once suggested changing the fluid as well, despite 50 years in the motor trade and 30 years drag racing.
Mid morning on the airfield track day I finally got past a well driven 5 litre TVR Griffith after some pretty spirited driving, and hit the brakes hard at 120 mph for a 90 left onto the main runway. No brakes
I had boiled the fluid. Good job it was the runway - I managed to spin to a halt without going off into the scenery.Quick change of underwear, and a friend who knew what he was doing took pity and swapped my old pads back in for me.
I had taken them with me just in case I didn't like the new ones.....as well as the right tools for the job.
RSTurboPaul said:
QBee said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Sheepshanks said:
QBee said:
The last time I did it, a couple of months later the right front caliper fell off.
Fortunately, just as I was turning into my drive at 5 mph.
But I have never touched brakes since.
A colleague had that, well the other side, happen on his Alfa that had just had the brakes done at a dealer. He was doing 40 at the time.Fortunately, just as I was turning into my drive at 5 mph.
But I have never touched brakes since.
Twice I've forgotten to prime the pedal after doing brakes. First time I rolled into the garage door, luckily no damage. Second time I was luckily not to hit a neighbours car as I pulled it off the drive. A few panic stamps on the pedal had it stopped.
Bet it happens a lot at garages that are rushing to do the job as fast as possible and get the next one in.
The pads I had him put in were Carbon Lorraine, so pretty agressive.
We talked about them, but he never once suggested changing the fluid as well, despite 50 years in the motor trade and 30 years drag racing.
Mid morning on the airfield track day I finally got past a well driven 5 litre TVR Griffith after some pretty spirited driving, and hit the brakes hard at 120 mph for a 90 left onto the main runway. No brakes
I had boiled the fluid. Good job it was the runway - I managed to spin to a halt without going off into the scenery.Quick change of underwear, and a friend who knew what he was doing took pity and swapped my old pads back in for me.
I had taken them with me just in case I didn't like the new ones.....as well as the right tools for the job.
blademansw said:
Interesting the different experiences everyone has had - I kept my 2011 C-class serviced by the MB dealer in Swindon from when I bought it in 2016 (I have only changed cars 3 weeks ago)
First of all, the rear disks were picked up on one service, but they said they probably have a couple of thousand miles before the pads are finished, get it all done at the same time to save money on labour.
They were spot on when they wore out, and I got a quote from both them and a local independent and they were 8 quid more expensive (I specified OEM parts to the independent). So they got my business for that.
Roll on a couple of years and they advised me that the front disks were near the wear limit, but again, there was probably another 3k left on the pads so again get it all done at the same time. Again, they were spot on price so they got my business.
No lies, no pressure, no upsell.
So perhaps not all main dealers can be tarred with the same brush?
The only thing I think is that the measure of performance and bonus for the service manager was customer loyalty, measured in decades rather than sales target this week. How many people have you told this story to and mentioned the dealers name? First of all, the rear disks were picked up on one service, but they said they probably have a couple of thousand miles before the pads are finished, get it all done at the same time to save money on labour.
They were spot on when they wore out, and I got a quote from both them and a local independent and they were 8 quid more expensive (I specified OEM parts to the independent). So they got my business for that.
Roll on a couple of years and they advised me that the front disks were near the wear limit, but again, there was probably another 3k left on the pads so again get it all done at the same time. Again, they were spot on price so they got my business.
No lies, no pressure, no upsell.
So perhaps not all main dealers can be tarred with the same brush?
blueg33 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
QBee said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Sheepshanks said:
QBee said:
The last time I did it, a couple of months later the right front caliper fell off.
Fortunately, just as I was turning into my drive at 5 mph.
But I have never touched brakes since.
A colleague had that, well the other side, happen on his Alfa that had just had the brakes done at a dealer. He was doing 40 at the time.Fortunately, just as I was turning into my drive at 5 mph.
But I have never touched brakes since.
Twice I've forgotten to prime the pedal after doing brakes. First time I rolled into the garage door, luckily no damage. Second time I was luckily not to hit a neighbours car as I pulled it off the drive. A few panic stamps on the pedal had it stopped.
Bet it happens a lot at garages that are rushing to do the job as fast as possible and get the next one in.
The pads I had him put in were Carbon Lorraine, so pretty agressive.
We talked about them, but he never once suggested changing the fluid as well, despite 50 years in the motor trade and 30 years drag racing.
Mid morning on the airfield track day I finally got past a well driven 5 litre TVR Griffith after some pretty spirited driving, and hit the brakes hard at 120 mph for a 90 left onto the main runway. No brakes
I had boiled the fluid. Good job it was the runway - I managed to spin to a halt without going off into the scenery.Quick change of underwear, and a friend who knew what he was doing took pity and swapped my old pads back in for me.
I had taken them with me just in case I didn't like the new ones.....as well as the right tools for the job.
I did the rest of the track day fine on the less abrasive pads. On my callipers the pads slot in from the outside, so re-fitting the old pads just meant wheel off, pin out, pad out, pad in, pin in and wheel back on.
Sheepshanks said:
J4CKO said:
The time is a moot point as it invariably involves taking it to a garage, waiting, picking it up and the money to pay for it takes time to earn. I can do pads on mine in 5 mins per corner. Wheel off, allen bolt to release pads, remove spring, remove pads, push pistons back, slot new pads in and put the spring and allen bolt back, wheel back on.
It probably took less time than that to change the pads on the Fords I grew up with. As long as you don’t flip a seal in the master cylinder while pushing the pistons back!Do you not clean the calipers, grease the sliders etc?
Can do it in no time, invariably will take a bit more time as not in a rush, want to do it well and it’s kind of my happy place on a sunny day messing with my car with brew, radio on and the sun shining.
Some folk like lying on a sun lounger, bores me s
tless, I think I have some Border Collie genetics wheee I need a task, have honestly got back off holiday and enjoyed changing the felt on the shed roof more than sitting on a beach. J4CKO said:
Some folk like lying on a sun lounger, bores me stless, I think I have some Border Collie genetics wheee I need a task, have honestly got back off holiday and enjoyed changing the felt on the shed roof more than sitting on a beach.
I am similar. I go on holiday to do things that I can't often do at home, not to avoid doing things.tless, I think I have some Border Collie genetics wheee I need a task, have honestly got back off holiday and enjoyed changing the felt on the shed roof more than sitting on a beach. I invariably end up tinkering with the a/c system, TV, shower, kitchen knives etc. at the accomodation and the hire car too.
I took my Ducati to the main dealer for a service (18 months old, 2000 miles).
Dealer called to say the rear tyre needs to be replaced immediately. When I pointed out I bought the bike from them the previous winter and 200 miles ago they changed their mind and said it was fine.
After a bit of back and forth with the branch manager they agreed to change it FOC. I'd hope that'd make them think twice next time, but I doubt it will!
Dealer called to say the rear tyre needs to be replaced immediately. When I pointed out I bought the bike from them the previous winter and 200 miles ago they changed their mind and said it was fine.
After a bit of back and forth with the branch manager they agreed to change it FOC. I'd hope that'd make them think twice next time, but I doubt it will!
MC Bodge said:
J4CKO said:
Some folk like lying on a sun lounger, bores me stless, I think I have some Border Collie genetics wheee I need a task, have honestly got back off holiday and enjoyed changing the felt on the shed roof more than sitting on a beach.
I am similar. I go on holiday to do things that I can't often do at home, not to avoid doing things.tless, I think I have some Border Collie genetics wheee I need a task, have honestly got back off holiday and enjoyed changing the felt on the shed roof more than sitting on a beach. I invariably end up tinkering with the a/c system, TV, shower, kitchen knives etc. at the accomodation and the hire car too.
Some suppress it so thoroughly, mind!
MC Bodge said:
I am similar. I go on holiday to do things that I can't often do at home, not to avoid doing things.
I invariably end up tinkering with the a/c system, TV, shower, kitchen knives etc. at the accomodation and the hire car too.
People that tinker with the TV’s in my holiday let do my head in. Considerable time and money has been spent in setting them up to get the best signal in a difficult location. I invariably end up tinkering with the a/c system, TV, shower, kitchen knives etc. at the accomodation and the hire car too.
People come and mess with it and I end up having to do a six hour round trip so that it works properly for the next guests.
You also don’t need to mess with the heating programmes.
And stop turning off the switch for the PIR on the path, you know the one that’s marked “do not switch off” as the next guests won’t find the house in the dark.
Plus the fire extinguishers are the corrects ones for the equipment in the room they are placed in. Do not move them around!
If it’s not yours, leave it alone!
And to the guests that swap around the map in the hall with the picture in the sitting room - WTF!
Sorry, I feel better now.
blueg33 said:
People that tinker with the TV’s in my holiday let do my head in. Considerable time and money has been spent in setting them up to get the best signal in a difficult location.
People come and mess with it and I end up having to do a six hour round trip so that it works properly for the next guests.
You also don’t need to mess with the heating programmes.
And stop turning off the switch for the PIR on the path, you know the one that’s marked “do not switch off” as the next guests won’t find the house in the dark.
Plus the fire extinguishers are the corrects ones for the equipment in the room they are placed in. Do not move them around!
If it’s not yours, leave it alone!
And to the guests that swap around the map in the hall with the picture in the sitting room - WTF!
Sorry, I feel better now.
Who mentioned anything about tuning TV channels? More typically the picture and sound settings are unpleasantly all over the shop.People come and mess with it and I end up having to do a six hour round trip so that it works properly for the next guests.
You also don’t need to mess with the heating programmes.
And stop turning off the switch for the PIR on the path, you know the one that’s marked “do not switch off” as the next guests won’t find the house in the dark.
Plus the fire extinguishers are the corrects ones for the equipment in the room they are placed in. Do not move them around!
If it’s not yours, leave it alone!
And to the guests that swap around the map in the hall with the picture in the sitting room - WTF!
Sorry, I feel better now.
A/C systems are typically very badly set everywhere. Few people appear to understand the concept of a *setpoint* or heat/cool/auto.
Heating temp settings and clocks are often very strange. I have balanced central heating in accommodation in the past when one radiator was getting all of the heat, but that was a bit more involved.
If I am renting it, why would I tolerate these things when I can sort them out quickly?
I am saving somebody like you some work. Lock them off if setup correctly.
(Unlike most people, I do try to make things work well, hence my motorbikes do not ride like pogo sticks or on the bumpstops)
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