Climate change - the POLITICAL debate (Vol 7)

Climate change - the POLITICAL debate (Vol 7)

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mike9009

7,091 posts

245 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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robinessex said:
Climate change made UK's waterlogged winter worse

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp992nxxe7do

"Climate change is a major reason the UK suffered such a waterlogged winter, scientists have confirmed...................................Global warming due to humans burning fossil fuels made this level of rainfall at least four times more LIKELY, according to the World Weather Attribution group."

Just another guess then. No mention of the government's poor management of our rivers and canals then?
I am amazed you still read the BBC website..... It obviously aggravates you but you keep going back for more.... laugh

turbobloke

104,547 posts

262 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Labour would save us from complex crunchy chaotic climate complications as the next gov't. It would be as easy as ABC.

Labour spell it out

robinessex

11,102 posts

183 months

Thursday 23rd May
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mike9009 said:
robinessex said:
Climate change made UK's waterlogged winter worse

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp992nxxe7do

"Climate change is a major reason the UK suffered such a waterlogged winter, scientists have confirmed...................................Global warming due to humans burning fossil fuels made this level of rainfall at least four times more LIKELY, according to the World Weather Attribution group."

Just another guess then. No mention of the government's poor management of our rivers and canals then?
I am amazed you still read the BBC website..... It obviously aggravates you but you keep going back for more.... laugh
Firstly it gets stuffed in your face whether you want it or not. Secondly, the Beeb should revert to being a NEWS provider, not a blatant propaganda machine.

robinessex

11,102 posts

183 months

Friday 24th May
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Atlantic to get 'extraordinary' hurricane season

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw441ng00wxo

"The North Atlantic could...................................................."

Might as well stop there, another guessing weather prediction.

".................................While there's no evidence climate change is producing more hurricanes.........................."

And then pop in the sentence that makes the headline complete bks. The Beeb at its most dishonest, again.

jshell

11,180 posts

207 months

Friday 24th May
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robinessex said:
mike9009 said:
robinessex said:
Climate change made UK's waterlogged winter worse

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp992nxxe7do

"Climate change is a major reason the UK suffered such a waterlogged winter, scientists have confirmed...................................Global warming due to humans burning fossil fuels made this level of rainfall at least four times more LIKELY, according to the World Weather Attribution group."

Just another guess then. No mention of the government's poor management of our rivers and canals then?
I am amazed you still read the BBC website..... It obviously aggravates you but you keep going back for more.... laugh
Firstly it gets stuffed in your face whether you want it or not. Secondly, the Beeb should revert to being a NEWS provider, not a blatant propaganda machine.
BBC are members of the fake news peddling TNI, so they will always follow the narrative.

Diderot

7,455 posts

194 months

Friday 24th May
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jshell said:
robinessex said:
mike9009 said:
robinessex said:
Climate change made UK's waterlogged winter worse

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp992nxxe7do

"Climate change is a major reason the UK suffered such a waterlogged winter, scientists have confirmed...................................Global warming due to humans burning fossil fuels made this level of rainfall at least four times more LIKELY, according to the World Weather Attribution group."

Just another guess then. No mention of the government's poor management of our rivers and canals then?
I am amazed you still read the BBC website..... It obviously aggravates you but you keep going back for more.... laugh
Firstly it gets stuffed in your face whether you want it or not. Secondly, the Beeb should revert to being a NEWS provider, not a blatant propaganda machine.
BBC are members of the fake news peddling TNI, so they will always follow the narrative.
And guess what? It’s because of the unique way they are funded. By us through their license fee to give their activist ‘journalists’ like Rowlatt and Harrabin before him, free rein to spout utter bks. All the while knowing that there will be millions of gullible victims lapping up their unsubstantiated catastrophism.

Diderot

7,455 posts

194 months

Friday 24th May
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And look on their website (World Weather Attribution Group), and it boils down to these two paragraphs:

“Occasionally, there are methodological challenges which means that quantitative results can not be provided in the findings of a WWA study. These challenges include the availability of reliable observations of the weather and the suitability of models to replicate the event being studied.

If a study does not have a conclusive result because of these challenges, that does not necessarily mean that climate change played no role in the weather event.”

Utterly unscientific tripe as usual. That is crucifiable as a research objective; as supposed scientists, how can they even state such crap with a straight face? In the part of my career which conducts peer review, editing journals and conducting PhD vivas, you would simply throw this kind of nonsense out. Obviously, it’s perfect fodder for the activists at the BBC to regurgitate uncritically to keep the gullible menaced.

mike9009

7,091 posts

245 months

Friday 24th May
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Diderot said:
And guess what? It’s because of the unique way they are funded. By us through their license fee to give their activist ‘journalists’ like Rowlatt and Harrabin before him, free rein to spout utter bks. All the while knowing that there will be millions of gullible victims lapping up their unsubstantiated catastrophism.
Time will tell. What is your prediction for impact of the Atlantic warming? Less severe hurricanes? Maybe.....

mike9009

7,091 posts

245 months

Friday 24th May
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Diderot said:
And look on their website (World Weather Attribution Group), and it boils down to these two paragraphs:

“Occasionally, there are methodological challenges which means that quantitative results can not be provided in the findings of a WWA study. These challenges include the availability of reliable observations of the weather and the suitability of models to replicate the event being studied.

If a study does not have a conclusive result because of these challenges, that does not necessarily mean that climate change played no role in the weather event.”

Utterly unscientific tripe as usual. That is crucifiable as a research objective; as supposed scientists, how can they even state such crap with a straight face? In the part of my career which conducts peer review, editing journals and conducting PhD vivas, you would simply throw this kind of nonsense out. Obviously, it’s perfect fodder for the activists at the BBC to regurgitate uncritically to keep the gullible menaced.
A bit like McKiltrick?

Why would you not peer review my critique of McKiltrick 2018?

Diderot

7,455 posts

194 months

Friday 24th May
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mike9009 said:
Diderot said:
And look on their website (World Weather Attribution Group), and it boils down to these two paragraphs:

“Occasionally, there are methodological challenges which means that quantitative results can not be provided in the findings of a WWA study. These challenges include the availability of reliable observations of the weather and the suitability of models to replicate the event being studied.

If a study does not have a conclusive result because of these challenges, that does not necessarily mean that climate change played no role in the weather event.”

Utterly unscientific tripe as usual. That is crucifiable as a research objective; as supposed scientists, how can they even state such crap with a straight face? In the part of my career which conducts peer review, editing journals and conducting PhD vivas, you would simply throw this kind of nonsense out. Obviously, it’s perfect fodder for the activists at the BBC to regurgitate uncritically to keep the gullible menaced.
A bit like McKiltrick?

Why would you not peer review my critique of McKiltrick 2018?
Because you’ve not published a rebuttal of it yet. This is how research works. Put your money where your mouth is. As I said before, I am sure the editorial board will welcome your root and branch critique.

Keep us updated.

mike9009

7,091 posts

245 months

Friday 24th May
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Diderot

7,455 posts

194 months

Friday 24th May
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mike9009 said:
Keep the faith Mike.

Do let us know when that groundbreaking rebuttal has been published.

mike9009

7,091 posts

245 months

Saturday 25th May
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Diderot said:
mike9009 said:
Keep the faith Mike.

Do let us know when that groundbreaking rebuttal has been published.
And why would it not be a good idea? Your message provides nothing....

Too scared that I might be right? Or do you not understand the paper or rebuttal? In either case, not sure you should be taunting.... Somewhat embarrassing the level of debate.....

McKitrick has directly engaged with me. Just need to present my data questioning his fundamental flaw.....

Diderot

7,455 posts

194 months

Saturday 25th May
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mike9009 said:
Diderot said:
mike9009 said:
Keep the faith Mike.

Do let us know when that groundbreaking rebuttal has been published.
And why would it not be a good idea? Your message provides nothing....

Too scared that I might be right? Or do you not understand the paper or rebuttal? In either case, not sure you should be taunting.... Somewhat embarrassing the level of debate.....

McKitrick has directly engaged with me. Just need to present my data questioning his fundamental flaw.....
Excellent. Keep us updated.

turbobloke

104,547 posts

262 months

Saturday 25th May
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Diderot said:
mike9009 said:
Diderot said:
mike9009 said:
Keep the faith Mike.

Do let us know when that groundbreaking rebuttal has been published.
And why would it not be a good idea? Your message provides nothing....

Too scared that I might be right? Or do you not understand the paper or rebuttal? In either case, not sure you should be taunting.... Somewhat embarrassing the level of debate.....

McKitrick has directly engaged with me. Just need to present my data questioning his fundamental flaw.....
Excellent. Keep us updated.
yes

Though as ever with such matters, it's one thing to agree with engagement and quite another to know for sure what's actually being said.

Good Plan Ted

2,009 posts

233 months

Sunday 26th May
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Just stumbled on this and seems true just wondered what peoples views are?

https://player.vimeo.com/video/924719370

mike9009

7,091 posts

245 months

Sunday 26th May
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Good Plan Ted said:
Just stumbled on this and seems true just wondered what peoples views are?

https://player.vimeo.com/video/924719370
Already posted and commented on..... Emotional slight of hand..... Biased and not accurate.

robinessex

11,102 posts

183 months

Sunday 26th May
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mike9009 said:
Good Plan Ted said:
Just stumbled on this and seems true just wondered what peoples views are?

https://player.vimeo.com/video/924719370
Already posted and commented on..... Emotional slight of hand..... Biased and not accurate.
We await your detailed rebuttal with interest.

mike9009

7,091 posts

245 months

Sunday 26th May
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robinessex said:
mike9009 said:
Good Plan Ted said:
Just stumbled on this and seems true just wondered what peoples views are?

https://player.vimeo.com/video/924719370
Already posted and commented on..... Emotional slight of hand..... Biased and not accurate.
We await your detailed rebuttal with interest.
Already done several pages back, but you all seem to have forgotten it again? What age profiles are you all??

Pan Pan Pan

10,005 posts

113 months

Monday 27th May
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mike9009 said:
Diderot said:
And guess what? It’s because of the unique way they are funded. By us through their license fee to give their activist ‘journalists’ like Rowlatt and Harrabin before him, free rein to spout utter bks. All the while knowing that there will be millions of gullible victims lapping up their unsubstantiated catastrophism.
Time will tell. What is your prediction for impact of the Atlantic warming? Less severe hurricanes? Maybe.....
Since many ecomentalists believe that it is MAN, who is causing, and has caused all this climate change, it can all only get much worse. Because we are adding billions more resource consuming, waste producing, CO2 emitting numbers of MAN to the planet, at NET global rates, above one hundred thousand per DAY!.
It is strange, how some want to use the climate, as a stick, to beat those they don't like. or don't agree with, but don't seem to know, what is at the root of just about every environmental issue facing the planet.
Possibly because they `do' know what is at the root of it all, but just don't have the courage to face up to the truth?