Castle Combe Sat / Sun

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miniman

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25,181 posts

264 months

Saturday 25th September 2004
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Watch out for Wiltshire's finest if you're in the Chippenham / Castle Combe / M4 J17 area this weekend. It's Superbikes at Combe and the place is crawling with cops. They have got:

- Scamera vans
- Scamera bike
- Loads of marked cars

From past experience, they will likely be on the A350 north of Chippenham, and they are certainly out in force on the A420 and the local roads round the circuit.

[shaw taylor]
Keep 'em peeled
[/shaw taylor]

silverback mike

11,290 posts

255 months

Saturday 25th September 2004
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Most of us are bike fans too.....

You aint seen me ok.....touching finger to nose...

Streetcop

5,907 posts

240 months

Saturday 25th September 2004
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If anyone travels around there with race cans, small plates etc....they shouldn't be surprised by any action taken against them..

Street

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th September 2004
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I think the whole small plate thing is justified - after all, in essence it gives you a license to speed, without worrying (quite so much) about people taking down your plate, so on that score, I'd be prepared to take the punishment if I were to go down that route. re Tinted visors, race cans etc, I agree with you - provided you're not making a nuisance of yourself or riding in the dark with a tinted visor, I cant see the harm - I think most Police see it this way too IME.

re Cops at Combe - im on my way over there tomorrow, and ill be keeping em peeled Both the two of the local County 'Speed Camera Partnership' websites list a camera drive due to the Superbike event.

Of any of our resident BiB's going to be at the event? If so, ill pop over and say Howdy.

Last time I was at Combe, I got chatting to a couple of BiB's and they said "We've got all the speed gear with us (LTI2020) but noones doing anything silly, so we've packed it up and are chatting to the punters instead". They were both Petrolheads too, so they were loving it.

As stated in my post about the event in Biker Banter, look out for;

Camera bike (Honda Deauville, its marked but they like to hide it...)
Dark blue Honda Accord 2.2 VTEC - reg HY52 ***. Unmarked.
Black Octavia RS - reg RS02 ***. Again unmarked, and is assigned to Salisbury Police, but you never know...
Silver Octavia RS. Spotted in the Warminster area.

Ride safe guys - lets hope the event is a cracker

Dave

Streetcop

5,907 posts

240 months

Saturday 25th September 2004
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Quinny said:

Streetcop said:
If anyone travels around there with race cans, small plates etc....they shouldn't be surprised by any action taken against them..

Street


See this is what pisses a lot of people off and in my opinion (for what it's worth)loses the police support.

Yes we all know that tinted visors, race cans and small plates etc are illegal, but lets be realistic, are they really such a high priority?

What about riders with bald tyres, no license, no insurance, stolen bikes etc, I'm sure if you targeted these people you would get far more support


The no licence, bald tyres, no insurance, stolen bike brigade aren't likely to be at such events. Of course, that's not 100% true, but not far off. Those individuals will also be targetted, like they always are.

As for the others...the point was it's common sense to expect BiB on the roads around the event in their 100s, so to travel with things illegal on your bike is 'asking to get pulled' as the chances of a stop normally might be negligable.

I'm totally against small plates and race cans and deal with them in the appropriate manner when stopped.

Street

Streetcop

5,907 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th September 2004
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I agree that race cans sound well...but that's about it..

Performance wise...0.01% of road users will be able to see the difference and actually benefit from it...

I'm can empathise, however, with those who complain about the noise. My village and the surrounding ones, are subject to loud cans through the summer months (thank goodness for fairweather bikers)....

It just gives the whole biking fraternity a bad name and fuels the fires of complaint. Like the ones in North Yorkshire earlier in the year where local tv stars etc jumped on the bandwagon.

Street

turbobloke

104,403 posts

262 months

Sunday 26th September 2004
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The big problem is, there are more scam vans and GATSOs than ever, and as their numbers have increased so road accidents and fatalities have stopped declining and started to rise. This policy is a total failure, has only a superficial spinworthy connection with safety, and nowadays concerns income generation full stop. In this climate of total failure for the rite-on, kool britannia, noo labia speed fixated road "safety" policies, surely it's better to keep a closed mouth and have folk think you're dumb than to open it and remove all doubt.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th September 2004
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turbobloke said:
surely it's better to keep a closed mouth and have folk think you're dumb than to open it and remove all doubt.


If that's your argument for standard exhausts...I you....

Street

turbobloke

104,403 posts

262 months

Sunday 26th September 2004
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Streetcop said:
If that's your argument for standard exhausts...I you....Street
Don't think I referred to race cans or visors or plates, my words were in response to the original post, but I do think there are way too many more pressing issues for the police to deal with before these, more than I can list here. My post referred to anybody who supports the speed kills claptrap not just one or more BiB. That rank and file police officers must do as they are told should be taken as understood, there isn't anything personal in this. But with road deaths not falling like a stone under this policy there is no reason to pepper the roads with radar and laser traps. Scammers should lose their jobs as they would anywhere else where the outcome is rank failure.

But since you asked...Regarding race cans, if people object to the noise then I object to them objecting. There's no fundamental reason why one person's right to enjoy race can sounds isn't equal to another's rights to enjoy total peace and quiet. And it's not 'my' village or 'our' village, it's anyone's and everyone's. As to plates, the argument here is that the user might one day go through a speed trap or pass a GATSO or scam van and have their plates unreadable on the photo. Boo-hoo At least get out there and stop them when it happens if it's judged to be that dangerous in that instance, not let them carry on with merely a photo of their progress to earn our Tone a few more quid in indirect taxes.

Overall it's got to be counter to the principles of natural justice that anybody should be criminalised for acting in a manner that might remotely possibly maybe perhaps under certain conditions in another place at a different time be risky, when at that particular time and place it isn't. That's just plain silly and brings the law and law-makers into disrepute.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th September 2004
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Although I've been known to enforce the law to the letter, I'm firmly against those people who put others in danger...stuff like this;



Regarding plates...I generally VDRS (within 14 days) plates which are 7"x5"....those that are taking the pi55 with smaller ones get FPN'ed.



Street

TripleS

4,294 posts

244 months

Sunday 26th September 2004
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Streetcop said:
Although I've been known to enforce the law to the letter, I'm firmly against those people who put others in danger...stuff like this;



Street



I wonder if the police car is going to pass both the vehicles in front, or neither, 'cos to me it looks a bit tight to get in between them should it be necessary. Just out of interest you know.

Ironically it looks to me as if what the biker is doing is safer than what the police driver is about to do!

Best wishes all,
Dave.

>> Edited by TripleS on Sunday 26th September 21:09

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Sunday 26th September 2004
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My thoughts precisely....

slightlymiffed

53 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th September 2004
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Just back from a lovely couple of days racing...

Nothing illegal on my bike at all, but that didn't matter as plod were stopping *everybody* on the Saturday to check the "Tax Disk"... hmmmmm....

turbobloke

104,403 posts

262 months

Sunday 26th September 2004
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ANPR

slightlymiffed

53 posts

240 months

Monday 27th September 2004
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turbobloke said:
ANPR


Not very "automatic" then!

Streetcop

5,907 posts

240 months

Monday 27th September 2004
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TripleS said:

Streetcop said:
Although I've been known to enforce the law to the letter, I'm firmly against those people who put others in danger...stuff like this;



Street




I wonder if the police car is going to pass both the vehicles in front, or neither, 'cos to me it looks a bit tight to get in between them should it be necessary. Just out of interest you know.

Ironically it looks to me as if what the biker is doing is safer than what the police driver is about to do!

Best wishes all,
Dave.

>> Edited by TripleS on Sunday 26th September 21:09


I know where you're coming from and I don't know the answer. When you drive a car with a video recorder in it..you do drive it differently and the BiB could have just moved out to capture the footage of what the bikers were doing.

I know all about the speeds of motorcycles and what they can do, but solid white lines are there for a reason and although the bikers might get past ok, who's to know what the reaction might be of a driver coming the other way?

Street

AdamS

98 posts

256 months

Monday 27th September 2004
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Why are bikers targeted for Race Cans when anyone can buy any exhaust they like for their car and its perfectly legal and the plod dont seem to give a damn. If its noise most of these Nova boys have far louder exhausts?

What is the justification?

gh0st

4,693 posts

260 months

Monday 27th September 2004
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TripleS said:

Streetcop said:
Although I've been known to enforce the law to the letter, I'm firmly against those people who put others in danger...stuff like this;



Street




I wonder if the police car is going to pass both the vehicles in front, or neither, 'cos to me it looks a bit tight to get in between them should it be necessary. Just out of interest you know.

Ironically it looks to me as if what the biker is doing is safer than what the police driver is about to do!

Best wishes all,
Dave.

>> Edited by TripleS on Sunday 26th September 21:09


Just yet more ammo for the argument "because it is illegal does not mean it is dangerous, therefore should it still be illegal?"

Streetcop

5,907 posts

240 months

Monday 27th September 2004
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gh0st said:

Just yet more ammo for the argument "because it is illegal does not mean it is dangerous, therefore should it still be illegal?"


What??????

Are you saying that motorcyclist should be allowed to disobey solid white lines....

There are far too many two wheeled deaths already, without giving them more reasons to end up in a box.

Street

ca092003

797 posts

239 months

Monday 27th September 2004
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Streetcop said:


[quote=TripleS]


[quote=Streetcop]Although I've been known to enforce the law to the letter, I'm firmly against those people who put others in danger...stuff like this;



Street



Streetcop

Are vehicles that are being used for police purposes permitted to cross a solid white line?

Edited to fix dodgy brackets

>> Edited by ca092003 on Monday 27th September 10:08