I got caught...

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raddish

Original Poster:

35 posts

128 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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I got caught about 00:00 last night by a single crewed officer tucked away with a speed gun, 54 in a 40...

I have never been caught before, 0 points, am I likely to be offered a course or will it be straight to FPN?


voyds9

8,489 posts

285 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Points and fine

http://www.mjpmotoring.co.uk/guidelines-speeding-o...

lucky. close to a bigger spanking

SidJames

1,399 posts

235 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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voyds9 said:
Points and fine

http://www.mjpmotoring.co.uk/guidelines-speeding-o...

lucky. close to a bigger spanking
Steady on fella it doesn't sound like he's had a NIP yet!

That table is for not guilty plea if it goes to court.

OP, you won't get offered a course, it will be 3 points and a £100 standard fine I expect.




SidJames

1,399 posts

235 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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I've had an SP50 (66 mph) 3 points & £100, and an SP30 (34mph) course and £100 fine, in the last two fecking weeks!


raddish

Original Poster:

35 posts

128 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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SidJames said:
Steady on fella it doesn't sound like he's had a NIP yet!

That table is for not guilty plea if it goes to court.

OP, you won't get offered a course, it will be 3 points and a £100 standard fine I expect.
I wont get offered a course as the speed was to high? whats the threshold for a course for a first offence?

paintman

7,712 posts

192 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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First things first.
Were you stopped by the officer?
If so, what were you told?

pinchmeimdreamin

10,006 posts

220 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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SidJames said:
I've had an SP50 (66 mph) 3 points & £100, and an SP30 (34mph) course and £100 fine, in the last two fecking weeks!
At least you learnt your lesson.

Funk

26,354 posts

211 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Tbh, it seems most insurers treat SAC the same as points now anyway (never used to have to declare the SAC bust most ask now). I'd just take the points and avoid having to do the course I think.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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paintman said:
First things first.
Were you stopped by the officer?
If so, what were you told?
The relevance of those questions is not immediately apparent. I hope this isn't a "was he wearing a hat" gig. On second thoughts, it's Friday, so I rather hope that it is...

SidJames

1,399 posts

235 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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raddish said:
I wont get offered a course as the speed was to high? whats the threshold for a course for a first offence?
There are no special considerations for a first offence. It's the same each time.

Here's Notts police statement, but they are all generally the same. (Some local variances.)

[i]To be eligible you must meet this criteria

1.you admit to being the driver of the vehicle and this is received by us within 42 days of the date of the offence.

2.you haven't attended a Speed Awareness course within the last three years

3.the speed you were travelling at the time of the offence must fall within the acceptable speed range

(Speed limit + 10% + 9mph). For example, in a 30 mph limit – you could attend a course up to 42mph inclusive.[/i]

On the course I did the average was about 35 mph.

You will get a Notice of Impending prosecution (NIP)in the post soon, you decide if you want to cough, fill in the forms, then they will decide if it's a FPN or a course and notify you in writing.





Edited by SidJames on Friday 24th July 08:10

raddish

Original Poster:

35 posts

128 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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paintman said:
First things first.
Were you stopped by the officer?
If so, what were you told?
Yes, as per my original post I was stopped by a single crewed officer hiding in an entrance. He told me he was reporting me for the offence of speeding and I would receive a letter in 2-3 weeks that I will need to act on. There was not really a lot to be said, I was speeding, he caught me.

raddish

Original Poster:

35 posts

128 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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SidJames said:
There are no special considerations for a first offence. It's the same each time.

Here's Notts police statement, but they are all generally the same. (Some local variances.)

[i]To be eligible you must meet this criteria

1.you admit to being the driver of the vehicle and this is received by us within 42 days of the date of the offence.

2.you haven't attended a Speed Awareness course within the last three years

3.the speed you were travelling at the time of the offence must fall within the acceptable speed range

(Speed limit + 10% + 9mph). For example, in a 30 mph limit – you could attend a course up to 42mph inclusive.[/i]

On the course I did the average was about 35 mph.

You will get a Notice of Impending prosecution (NIP)in the post soon, you decide if you want to cough, fill in the forms, then they will decide if it's a FPN or a course and notify you in writing.





Edited by SidJames on Friday 24th July 08:10
Thanks for the explanation.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Is this what a "single crewed officer" looks like?


HantsRat

2,369 posts

110 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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SidJames said:
Steady on fella it doesn't sound like he's had a NIP yet!

That table is for not guilty plea if it goes to court.

OP, you won't get offered a course, it will be 3 points and a £100 standard fine I expect.
If stopped at the roadside, he would have had a verbal NIP read to him. NIP is served at the time.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

110 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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SidJames said:
There are no special considerations for a first offence. It's the same each time.

Here's Notts police statement, but they are all generally the same. (Some local variances.)

[i]To be eligible you must meet this criteria

1.you admit to being the driver of the vehicle and this is received by us within 42 days of the date of the offence.

2.you haven't attended a Speed Awareness course within the last three years

3.the speed you were travelling at the time of the offence must fall within the acceptable speed range

(Speed limit + 10% + 9mph). For example, in a 30 mph limit – you could attend a course up to 42mph inclusive.[/i]

On the course I did the average was about 35 mph.

You will get a Notice of Impending prosecution (NIP)in the post soon, you decide if you want to cough, fill in the forms, then they will decide if it's a FPN or a course and notify you in writing.





Edited by SidJames on Friday 24th July 08:10
This is rubbish. You will not get an NIP in the post. You will have been given the NIP at the time of the stop. No need to identify the driver, the police stopped you, they know you are the driver.

FurryExocet

3,011 posts

183 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Did you get anything at the roadside?

SidJames

1,399 posts

235 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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HantsRat said:
This is rubbish. You will not get an NIP in the post. You will have been given the NIP at the time of the stop. No need to identify the driver, the police stopped you, they know you are the driver.
Darn, they warriors are out early today.

Was editing my post before I read that he had been stopped, I assumed he'd been flashed.

The "rubbish" quote is quite uneccessary, the relevance of what happens next is I think correct guidance. i.e. he'll probably get an offer of a SAC if he chooses to accept it.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

110 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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You are 1mph over the threshold for the course.

Speed Limit Threshold for DAS
30 36mph - 42mph
40 47mph - 53mph
50 58mph - 64mph
60 69mph - 75mph
70 80mph - 86mph

SidJames

1,399 posts

235 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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HantsRat said:
You are 1mph over the threshold for the course.

Speed Limit Threshold for DAS
30 36mph - 42mph
40 47mph - 53mph
50 58mph - 64mph
60 69mph - 75mph
70 80mph - 86mph
Ah, you are correct. I put the calculation in my post (10% + 9mph = 53) but failed to work it out!

Sorry OP, looks like 3 points and whatever standard fine is applicable.



silverfoxcc

7,717 posts

147 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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SidJames said:
I've had an SP50 (66 mph) 3 points & £100, and an SP30 (34mph) course and £100 fine, in the last two fecking weeks!
I call custard on the sp30