ok folks, what are your views on this then......
Discussion
Following SC's exit stage left I have a choice to make.....
I am joining the safety camera partnership....
ok ok, only pulling the collective leg...sorry Gary if you are there, no offence meant towards you.
But I do have a dilemma.
In short I have seen the force MO who has told me that the injuries built up over the years mean I am staring down the barrel of a discharge on medical grounds. I have fought this tooth and nail as I really do not want the easy way out and enjoy the job.
The injuries aren't that bad in my view but the job has a duty of car bla bla, in other words doesnt want to be sued if I go pear shaped on duty etc.
Injuries have been obtained through years of playing rugby and generally being involved in as many human pile ups as possible.
3 discs squashed in my neck - meaning I have a few lurch moments.
Numerous broken ribs
Dislocated shoulder that gives me jip,
Arthritic knees that pop and tend to jam.....
Now, the knees can be dealt with by way of copperslip but I do have a dilemma.
I have been offered a Sgt's job in the control room which still means shifts which I like, and you are still on the operational side of things, or a desk pilots job which really isn't me.
Or.........my cunning plan is maybe to transfer into the MOD police. I do have a military background, have good knowledge of firearms, and don't mind service life....The downsides are they can post me anywhere in the country, which would be a shame as my kids are doing well here in brizzle. I know I would pass the fitness tests, not being big headed but I am quite fit. But would they have access to my medical records I wonder. And what did the doc put in there, I specifically asked him to put as little as possible as I can manage my dodgy body.
The control room job would be ok, at least for a while as an experienced police officer in there can make a difference to ground units, and decisions being made, but I can't see me staying for my remaining 15 yrs.
Bit of a dilemma really. The medical side of things are immovable, no operations etc....
Hmmm...what to do eh....
This isn't an attention grabbing post, feel free to throw flak or deflect it from sc's post
I'm not a loafing git but have to think a bit sensibly for a change, and yes I have given up the rugby
If this doesn't make sense I apologise.
Ps. The lads have offered to buy me a stannah stair lift.....bstards.
I am joining the safety camera partnership....
ok ok, only pulling the collective leg...sorry Gary if you are there, no offence meant towards you. But I do have a dilemma.
In short I have seen the force MO who has told me that the injuries built up over the years mean I am staring down the barrel of a discharge on medical grounds. I have fought this tooth and nail as I really do not want the easy way out and enjoy the job.
The injuries aren't that bad in my view but the job has a duty of car bla bla, in other words doesnt want to be sued if I go pear shaped on duty etc.
Injuries have been obtained through years of playing rugby and generally being involved in as many human pile ups as possible.
3 discs squashed in my neck - meaning I have a few lurch moments.
Numerous broken ribs
Dislocated shoulder that gives me jip,
Arthritic knees that pop and tend to jam.....
Now, the knees can be dealt with by way of copperslip but I do have a dilemma.
I have been offered a Sgt's job in the control room which still means shifts which I like, and you are still on the operational side of things, or a desk pilots job which really isn't me.
Or.........my cunning plan is maybe to transfer into the MOD police. I do have a military background, have good knowledge of firearms, and don't mind service life....The downsides are they can post me anywhere in the country, which would be a shame as my kids are doing well here in brizzle. I know I would pass the fitness tests, not being big headed but I am quite fit. But would they have access to my medical records I wonder. And what did the doc put in there, I specifically asked him to put as little as possible as I can manage my dodgy body.
The control room job would be ok, at least for a while as an experienced police officer in there can make a difference to ground units, and decisions being made, but I can't see me staying for my remaining 15 yrs.
Bit of a dilemma really. The medical side of things are immovable, no operations etc.... Hmmm...what to do eh....
This isn't an attention grabbing post, feel free to throw flak or deflect it from sc's post
I'm not a loafing git but have to think a bit sensibly for a change, and yes I have given up the rugby
If this doesn't make sense I apologise.
Ps. The lads have offered to buy me a stannah stair lift.....bstards.
Got to be the sergeants job in the control room. At least all of your experience to date will make a difference and help those BiB out on the streets. Less of a boredom factor than the desk job and keeps the kids happy staying at the same school, with their friends etc.
DAZ
>> Edited by dazren on Thursday 7th April 16:04
DAZ
>> Edited by dazren on Thursday 7th April 16:04
Whats your length of service?
Does 27 and half and Med Discharge you will get your 30 year full pension and instantly Index linked as opposed to waiting until 55 still apply? Also if it is a work related injury additional coppers?
Go for that desk job to ease out of the service with max benefits........
DVD
Does 27 and half and Med Discharge you will get your 30 year full pension and instantly Index linked as opposed to waiting until 55 still apply? Also if it is a work related injury additional coppers?
Go for that desk job to ease out of the service with max benefits........
DVD
dazren said:
Got to be the sergeants job in the control room. At least all of your experience to date will make a difference and help those BiB out on the streets. Less of a boredom factor than the desk job and keeps the kids happy staying at the same school, with their friends etc.
DAZ
>> Edited by dazren on Thursday 7th April 16:04
Must admit, I am very tempted. Even if it's not for ever.
Dwight VanDriver said:
Whats your length of service?
Does 27 and half and Med Discharge you will get your 30 year full pension and instantly Index linked as opposed to waiting until 55 still apply? Also if it is a work related injury additional coppers?
Go for that desk job to ease out of the service with max benefits........
DVD
15 years to do DVD, so in the middle.
silverback mike said:
Must admit, I am very tempted. Even if it's not for ever.
Later on down your career path, there must be an opportunity for further changes of role/job etc to keep the interest levels up? Wether that be going desk bound later on or getting involved with training newbies?
DAZ
silverback mike said:
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In short I have seen the force MO who has told me that the injuries built up over the years mean I am staring down the barrel of a discharge on medical grounds. I have fought this tooth and nail as I really do not want the easy way out and enjoy the job.
The injuries aren't that bad in my view but the job has a duty of car bla bla, in other words doesnt want to be sued if I go pear shaped on duty etc.
Injuries have been obtained through years of playing rugby and generally being involved in as many human pile ups as possible.
3 discs squashed in my neck - meaning I have a few lurch moments.
Numerous broken ribs
Dislocated shoulder that gives me jip,
Arthritic knees that pop and tend to jam.
Wasn't there something in one of the papers today about a WPC (sorry
if that's politically incorrect) who was injured in a car crash but is now back 'on the beat' despite memory loss, mood swings and limited mobility ... wants to transfer to the K9 unit? Her 'disabilities' sound greater than yours. BTW - 'memory loss' and 'mood swings' ... WTF is she doing policing with those mental conditions. Any evidence she gives will be highly questionable and will she call off the dog if her mood is against it?
silverback mike said:
Or.........my cunning plan is maybe to transfer into the MOD police. I do have a military background, have good knowledge of firearms, and don't mind service life....The downsides are they can post me anywhere in the country, which would be a shame as my kids are doing well here in brizzle. I know I would pass the fitness tests, not being big headed but I am quite fit. But would they have access to my medical records I wonder. And what did the doc put in there, I specifically asked him to put as little as possible as I can manage my dodgy body.
As with any employer, they can ask you to authorise your doctor (GP, consultant, etc.) to disclose any pre-existing medical condition ... and can make a satisfactory report a condition of employment. Altenatively (and in addition), and likely for MOD I would think, they could require you to have a full medical with their own quack (probably at Porton Down
). Stay in the job, go for the stripes in the control room, and stay with us. We can't have all the BiB bailing out at the same time. Was it something we said?
... or something the government did? 
Streaky
>> Edited by streaky on Thursday 7th April 16:20
I'd go for control room in the short term to give yourself some thinking time. Give Julian a ring at RideDrive perhaps to do a bit of something useful and get a few pennies extra as an interest?
What age are the kids? If you go MOD, you could possibly get some help to send them to an independent school. If they're young enough, they'll move ok.
The only one that really doesn't sound right for you is the desk job. And you don't want to leave because you keep the pension from where you are now.
What age are the kids? If you go MOD, you could possibly get some help to send them to an independent school. If they're young enough, they'll move ok.
The only one that really doesn't sound right for you is the desk job. And you don't want to leave because you keep the pension from where you are now.
MOD sounds most interesting, but it is a risk...to your family. No idea how much, only you can assess. But you'll need their buy-in if you're thinking of a job that could see you sent half-way across the country.
I know that sounds negative, I genuinely think it sounds an interesting job...but I know what the MOD administative branch can be like at times...the most inhuman, heartless ****'s this side of scamera van operators!!! (SC, if you're reading, 
)
Not an easy one, to give up a job you enjoy...any other options outside of the force?
I know that sounds negative, I genuinely think it sounds an interesting job...but I know what the MOD administative branch can be like at times...the most inhuman, heartless ****'s this side of scamera van operators!!! (SC, if you're reading,
) Not an easy one, to give up a job you enjoy...any other options outside of the force?
silverback mike said:
But would they have access to my medical records I wonder. And what did the doc put in there, I specifically asked him to put as little as possible as I can manage my dodgy body.
Just spotted this bit as well. I think that when you apply you are 'invited' to give them permission to access your records.
On the other hand, if you're wondering, then you do have a legal right to see both your medical records at your GP, and your employer's files on you. Just make an appointment. I'm sure under the circumstances that they would understand that you wanted to see them so you could realistically review your options.
I would steer clear of the Mod plods, personally: precious little to do with what you understand to be 'policing' - more like working for a security firm - and none, or very few, of the benefits you have now.
Added to which, by changing employer wouldn't you be absolving them of all responsibility should any of your sundry heath issues become more serious?
Go for the control room job - it won't be long before you can drive a virtual pursuit from there anyway!
Added to which, by changing employer wouldn't you be absolving them of all responsibility should any of your sundry heath issues become more serious?
Go for the control room job - it won't be long before you can drive a virtual pursuit from there anyway!
, just don't do a 'Speedcop' on us 
Thanks for the replies - very valid points being raised by all....including being shot for being knackered
I don't intend leaving the job (or ph) and do tend to agree that the MOD plod would be a complete change and after these years in a civil police force. But having a service background I have been on the receiving end
and wasn't that struck. Plus I am sure that medical records would have to be inspected for which I would probably be penalised...However I am cheaper to take on than someone fresh out of the box
The kids are 7 and 2 so uprooting them would be a bit of a nightmare, plus my wife works in the MOD locally.
Funny thing is that this only came about as I was transferring to the dog handling section when my knee went wobbly. Prior to that I had just completed tactical defense instructor training. which was no problem.
It isn't the end of the world, and I can understand the job protecting itself. I can't sign a caveat that states that I wouldn't hold the police responsible if I get injured as a result of my existing injuries as the old "duty of care" buzzwords become evident.
No, I can't do a desk job, don't have the patience for it and although not qualified yet have been in the role of acting sgt for about 18months, so maybe the control room job is the best option for the time being. This may open up other things later on (as stated by many of us posters). I honestly can't think of anything I can do other than the police....funny situation to be in really...However, as stated, not the end of the world, I will still be under the operational umbrella and able to make decent decisions from the control room. I'll keep you posted with any decisions I make.
Ta folks.
I don't intend leaving the job (or ph) and do tend to agree that the MOD plod would be a complete change and after these years in a civil police force. But having a service background I have been on the receiving end
and wasn't that struck. Plus I am sure that medical records would have to be inspected for which I would probably be penalised...However I am cheaper to take on than someone fresh out of the box The kids are 7 and 2 so uprooting them would be a bit of a nightmare, plus my wife works in the MOD locally.
Funny thing is that this only came about as I was transferring to the dog handling section when my knee went wobbly. Prior to that I had just completed tactical defense instructor training.
which was no problem. It isn't the end of the world, and I can understand the job protecting itself. I can't sign a caveat that states that I wouldn't hold the police responsible if I get injured as a result of my existing injuries as the old "duty of care" buzzwords become evident.
No, I can't do a desk job, don't have the patience for it and although not qualified yet have been in the role of acting sgt for about 18months, so maybe the control room job is the best option for the time being. This may open up other things later on (as stated by many of us posters). I honestly can't think of anything I can do other than the police....funny situation to be in really...However, as stated, not the end of the world, I will still be under the operational umbrella and able to make decent decisions from the control room. I'll keep you posted with any decisions I make.
Ta folks.
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